Why is porn bad but pumping my wife isn't?

[Apustajan apustaja]

All I'm saying is you can have healthy sex and relationships without abstaining from porn. It's a false dichotomy to claim that it has to be one or the other. But by all means, please continue white knighting for hours of foreplay leading up to 90 seconds of disappointing your woman. I'm sure your sex life is way more fulfilling than mine.

PL, sorry: I am just an old semi-litteral fag and used to be quite promiscuous, i have a body count well over 4 digits (not even sure if it starts with a 1) and I ran a sex toy company for a few years. I've aranged orgies, both gay and straight. I used to work at an "open minded" (women allowed) gay sex club. I've mopped jizz. I'm just saying if you are going to burn youself out on the coom like I in some sense did, at least do it with real people instead of in front of a screen.
I think porn is bad because it makes you focus on on yourself and your pleasure only because you don't have to think of anyone else but yourself, and sex is a social activity.
This paradox makes especially males underperform, people get erectile dysfunction in their early forties nowdays and I blame porn and not enough sport.
Porn leads to you focusing only on what visually arouses you and not the tactile social situation you are in. Porn may give you new degenerate ideas, but it makes you a worse lover/leatherdaddy/top/usefull/whatever.
There is only so far you can go anyway down the coom-path if you want to remain a good person and be able to be yourself proudly. Stop watching porn, leave your girlfriend, and go out and live your dream instead of wanking it in front of a screen. After a decade or so you will naturally gravitate toward including your soul in your sex life, or become Vaush, but irl.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

NoFap theory holds that semen retention has all kinds of benefits.

if you don't come on a regular basis, you can get prostate cancer

Compared to men who reported 4–7 ejaculations per month across their lifetimes, men who ejaculated 21 or more times a month enjoyed a 31% lower risk of prostate cancer. And the results held up to rigorous statistical evaluation even after other lifestyle factors and the frequency of PSA testing were taken into account.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ejaculation_frequency_and_prostate_cancer

also, some of us don't WANT a goddamn motherfucking relationship. women are expensive and a pain in the ass, constantly start shit, statistically will fuck around on you like 90% of all cases. fuck that. give me the porn, it costs less

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

if you don't come on a regular basis, you can get prostate cancer

...and they should not come hyperfocused on screens, dependent on them. Porn is the problem, not orgasms. You should be able to reach that sexual headspace on your own.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

...and they should not come hyperfocused on screens, dependent on them. Porn is the problem, not orgasms. You should be able to reach that sexual headspace on your own.

porn is only a problem if you're a coomer who's into weird kinky shit. stick to vanilla and a reasonable schedule

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

porn is only a problem if you're a coomer who's into weird kinky shit. stick to vanilla and a reasonable schedule

If you want the sad thing, porn's probably saved more marriages than it's ended, just for giving the husband an outlet for the dead bedroom. I'm saying it's a good solution, but find those are difficult and they require work and very hard decisions about your relationship. Easier to crank one out.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

If you want the sad thing, porn's probably saved more marriages than it's ended, just for giving the husband an outlet for the dead bedroom. I'm saying it's a good solution, but find those are difficult and they require work and very hard decisions about your relationship. Easier to crank one out.

I've turned down relationships because there's frankly no point to one when I can just jerk off occasionally. I've been in relationships in the past and they suck shit.

all women have one thing in common, which is they like starting shit and fighting on a regular basis as if it's a recreational pasttime (and to them it must be). I can't stand that shit. it ruins the entire experience for anything positive. no thanks and fuck right off, I can nut on my own without having to put up with some bitch's psychotic hormonal bullshit or whatever that shit is

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

PL, sorry

That's much more coherent than what you were saying before, and I can now consider your points better. You made some good ones. I think balance is key. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing, and you described it. Just because you enjoy porn doesn't mean you need to arrange or attend orgies, nor do you need to mop jizz or work in the sex industry in any way. It also doesn't mean you need to focus exclusively on your own pleasure. Porn can teach you how to please your woman better, or it can teach you to be a selfish masturbator, depending on what you watch and how you interpret it. However, I'll admit that for some people, they can go overboard and make their lives ultimately worse for it. I have no desire to live a life that kinky, but I respect your experience and how it led you to your opinion.

Edit: Typo

 

[WelperHelper99]

My girlfriend knows I would rather have sex than jerk off, but she's only available once a day on a good day. I produce 3-5 loads a day.

Bro. Buddy. Pal. Give your pp a break. He needs some time off. He's gonna fucking die.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

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Bro. Buddy. Pal. Give your pp a break. He needs some time off. He's gonna fucking die.

No promises; biology can be inconvenient. You made at least two people laugh our asses off with this response though. Awesome.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

That's much more coherent than what you were saying before, and I can now consider your points better. You made some good ones. I think balance is key. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing, and you described it. Just because you enjoy porn doesn't mean you need to arrange or attend orgies, nor do you need to mop jizz or work in the sex industry in any way. It also doesn't mean you need to focus exclusively on your own pleasure. Porn can teach you how to please your woman better, or it can teach you to be a selfish masturbator, depending on what you watch and how you interpret it. However, I'll admit that for some people, they can go overboard and make their lives ultimately worse for it. I have no desire to live a life that kinky, but I respect your experience and how it led you to your opinion.

Edit: Typo

Well yeah, the thing is I have seen too many couples where one party is into *insert fetish* and the other one just tagging along because the other one is chasing coom, and getting traumatised and used. Porn on the internet incentivises going down rabbit holes, that get more and more specific and out of reach. Your sexuality and sexual identity should spring from your comunity and surroundings, porn isolates people. The question is "do you want to fuck Lisa next door (she may want to fuck you)", not "do you want to fuck the idea of a Korean catboy (on E since 2 months)".

And there should be more vanilla porn, where people respect & love each other, think of the children!

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

Well yeah, the thing is I have seen too many couples where one party is into *insert fetish* and the other one just tagging along because the other one is chasing coom, and getting traumatised and used. Porn on the internet incentivises going down rabbit holes, that get more and more specific and out of reach. Your sexuality and sexual identity should spring from your comunity and surroundings, porn isolates people. The question is "do you want to fuck Lisa next door (she may want to fuck you)", not "do you want to fuck the idea of a Korean catboy (on E since 2 months)".

And there should be more vanilla porn, where people respect & love each other, think of the children!

Can't argue with that. I just meant that getting stuck in an insatiable fetish hole isn't the only possible outcome, although I know it does happen in some cases. If you're smart, careful, and respectful, sometimes it can enhance things instead of tainting them. Sometimes Lisa next door has her own fetish, and you can indulge each other's fetishes harmlessly.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

all women have one thing in common, which is they like starting shit and fighting on a regular basis as if it's a recreational pasttime (and to them it must be). I can't stand that shit. it ruins the entire experience for anything positive. no thanks and fuck right off, I can nut on my own without having to put up with some bitch's psychotic hormonal bullshit or whatever that shit is

It is for them, every woman needs some level of drama, or emotional engagement. The guy I read, Rian Stone, says he gets his wife fired up over things he doesn't care about on the regular as a way to provide her constant low level drama so she doesn't blow up other things in a serious way. If it wasn't for my crippling addiction to emotionally unstable redheads, I'd probably swear off them myself.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

It is for them, every woman needs some level of drama, or emotional engagement.

yeah, see - fuck that shit. too exhausting, no payoff. I'd sooner jerk off

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

Can't argue with that. I just meant that getting stuck in an insatiable fetish hole isn't the only possible outcome, although I know it does happen in some cases. If you're smart, careful, and respectful, sometimes it can enhance things instead of tainting them. Sometimes Lisa next door has her own fetish, and you can indulge each other's fetishes harmlessly.

Yes of course. I'm not agaist the odd kink or erotic art or fantasy or whatever, it is just that I think that unlimited porn on all devices together with social media have done a lot of damage to consoomers as well as "actors". Unless it's classics from the golden age watching porn with a partner is just a shortcut. Especially since women are quite easy to turn on without shoving explicit images in their faces. And even more easily turned off. And then you have to get in to their minds on a deeper level. Equal parts old fashoned romantics, sexual revolution stuff and post modern emancipation. Women are just like working on classic cars, really, when you think about it. All about respect and balance and a bit of putting your foot down.
(Referece: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Toni)

 

[No. 7 cat]

OP

I think we all agree and find pumping your wife is quite alright, but porn frankly degrades the viewer and performer. Thanks OP.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

I've turned down relationships because there's frankly no point to one when I can just jerk off occasionally. I've been in relationships in the past and they suck shit.

all women have one thing in common, which is they like starting shit and fighting on a regular basis as if it's a recreational pasttime (and to them it must be). I can't stand that shit. it ruins the entire experience for anything positive. no thanks and fuck right off, I can nut on my own without having to put up with some bitch's psychotic hormonal bullshit or whatever that shit is

How about if you turn it around and it is you who make her cum, and she will like you for it and think you are the greatest ever? That might make some feel great, stop chasing and make them chase you, that is how a sexual dynamic should work. The hard part is figuring out what they want, and then being close to that.

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

Not gonna lie, your bit about my conception made me laugh a second time just now.

Edit: @Apustajan apustaja

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

How about if you turn it around and it is you who make her cum, and she will like you for it and think you are the greatest ever?

why would I give a shit?

The problem with these stupid fucking threads is all you literal cavemen-level retards assume that everyone can be shamed into agreeing with you. Fuck off. women are assholes and I'm happier alone

 

[GenericEdgelordSupreme]

why would I give a shit?

The problem with these stupid fucking threads is all you literal cavemen-level retards assume that everyone can be shamed into agreeing with you. Fuck off. women are assholes and I'm happier alone

Shame is a choice. Choose not to feel it. I hope your opinion changes because I think it could improve your quality of life, but I'm sure you feel that way for a reason.

 

[Abella]

I wish my wife would have sex with me whenever I wanted like people that are porn addicts think married couples do.