Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

I went there to see. Those guys are delusional man. They think Ukraine shot down 6 planes in 3 days. There are a couple people that act reasonable but a lot of the people there are utterly delusional. I thought they'd be a bit more reasonable tbqh.
If that's not enough they keep going to my profile to post their cope because they think it'll make me...idk what. I'm not Russian and if the US decides to start a draft to prop up their hohols I'm not eligible. I simply think this is a poor use of our resources and sets a bad precedent (not to mention that blatantly using the Ukraine to needle Russia is going to come back and bite the US in the proverbial ass).
 
This guy has been coping a lot.
Yeah, that nigger is about to have a fast-food-clerk-gets-the-order-wrong style chimpout.
I fucking hope he uses a VPN because he seems to be so unhinged right now that fedposting is not off the table.
And with fedposting I mean the kind of fedposting that not only gets the attention of FBI but also SecretService.

@Myrtle the Turtle
"I don't have a source besides 'trust me' but I have seen things on Telly where people would rather accept Russian occupation than die in a cold field with no training."
I think that applies to most people. Given the choice 1, die in a field, 2, pay your taxes to a different capital most people will pick 2.
 
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Credit to High-fructoseCornSyrup for paying attention to that thread. Sorry If I grabbed screen cap before you and you wanted to do it​


I went there to see. Those guys are delusional man. They think Ukraine shot down 6 planes in 3 days. There are a couple people that act reasonable but a lot of the people there are utterly delusional. I thought they'd be a bit more reasonable tbqh.

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This guy has been coping a lot.
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Someone is getting defensive lol. I best they don't like being associated with the people that shell children.
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Someone makes a reasonable post about something that doesn't matter and is even from a Pro-Ukraine POV. Doesn't matter it violates the current narrative which doesn't really matter but we'll still believe it anyway. RATE THIS MAN AUTISTIC.
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That other thread should be renamed to NAFO mastubatorium tbh. There is no useful information to be taken from that thread, only endless delusional sperging of no values.
 
That depends on stockpiles. I don't believe they are producing near enough to make any difference. If I had to make a blind guess, I'm assuming they don't have much. Russia has been regularly posting videos of missile strikes on stockpiles they find and the Ukes have been spending manpower with abandon, I doubt theyd be more conservative with ammunition. Just gotta protect expensive western toys to prevent those bad "Ukraine has lost 10% of the tanks we gave them yesterday" headlines.

I don't think the ability to pay soldiers is much of a factor. Just say you'll pay them after. A concerning amount of their forces had to be clubbed over the head and thrown in a van to be recruited, so the paycheck isn't what's motivating them.


Ukraine had the opportunity to use the 6 month pause in 2022/23 to do what the Russians did, build up their defenses, preserve their best units and train up their mobics. It would have made the inevitable Russian win a lot more costly and maybe would have meant a negotiated deal that would have left the Ukraine as a viable nation. Instead they wasted 100K of their best soldiers and God knows how much equipment on an American pipe dream to take Sevastopol that was so retarded in concept that even Zaluzhnyi argued against it. Now they're completely fucked. The funding issue is a side show, a last gasp opportunity to loot and steal before the whole thing collapses, it will make no difference to the war one way or the other.

Yeah I pretty much stopped looking after trying to downplay how bad trannies were to Josh because anti-tranny rhetoric was being used against NATO/Ukraine.

Right when trannies were funding efforts to take the site down.

*Edit* Come to think of it, some of them used to get really defensive over the t jokes.
It's fucking gross how much pleasure they take in the death of Russians. White Christians fighting and killing each other is a tragedy. Ukraine is in thrall to foreigners, mainly Jews, who have led them to disaster.
 
That other thread should be renamed to NAFO mastubatorium tbh. There is no useful information to be taken from that thread, only endless delusional sperging of no values.
I know NAFO is like that but this is KF. I expect disagreement. People push back against each other all the time over here. I think that is the reason this thread moves faster.
It's fucking gross how much pleasure they take in the death of Russians. White Christians fighting and killing each other is a tragedy. Ukraine is in thrall to foreigners, mainly Jews, who have led them to disaster.
Eh war is war. People act in certain ways in war. I do think the war by proxy thing where you have keyboard warriors expressing violent fantasies through a war a thousand miles away is gross and retarded but it is the way it is. I think the tragedy of this war is that Ukraine is very similar to Russia and they really are one people. Ukraine consciously took actions that have and will lead to its destruction but they could have acted better and avoided this.
 
Ukraine is in thrall to foreigners, mainly Jews, who have led them to disaster.
Quick reminder - z-man✡️ was propped up by kolomoyskiy✡️ as a main sponsor. Prez-jew turned on money-jew(tautology, but whatever) and made him leave the country, with, probably, seizing his stuff and selling it (just my hunch. Dunno if it's true)
 
For a President who swears he's not Putin he sure is acting very much like Putin what with the cancelled elections jailing opposition or forcing them to flee ect ect the Difference is Putin has run Russia and run it fairly well for years the same cannot be said for the procession of Western Puppet Leaders Ukraine has had post coup.
 
That depends on stockpiles. I don't believe they are producing near enough to make any difference. If I had to make a blind guess, I'm assuming they don't have much. Russia has been regularly posting videos of missile strikes on stockpiles they find and the Ukes have been spending manpower with abandon, I doubt theyd be more conservative with ammunition. Just gotta protect expensive western toys to prevent those bad "Ukraine has lost 10% of the tanks we gave them yesterday" headlines.

I don't think the ability to pay soldiers is much of a factor. Just say you'll pay them after. A concerning amount of their forces had to be clubbed over the head and thrown in a van to be recruited, so the paycheck isn't what's motivating them.
Supposedly South Vietnam lost when we stopped paying their soldiers paychecks.
In the case of Ukraine I'm guessing if we stopped paying for those blocking formations to keep the conscripts on the front line then they would be in trouble.
Or if their commander didn't get his cut.
 
Supposedly South Vietnam lost when we stopped paying their soldiers paychecks.
They lost when the democrats started to cut military funding to South Vietnam. It didn't happen over night, but that was the death knell. Unlike Ukraine, the South Vietnamese could fight wars and win. They just needed the supplies.
 
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That is what Visual Heuristics mean. I thought it was pretty obvious.
Visual Heuristics is a term from graphic design so far as I'm aware. I wondered what on Earth you were on about and your numbers didn't make sense to me. I thought possibly you were mocking my own number crunching but I also thought maybe this is something I'm unfamiliar with. My own understanding of Probability caps out at some very basic use of Binomial Theorem so I asked for an explanation of where you were getting this stuff from.

I don't want to derail to bad here. But its not a pool of 50.
The UK stock = the USA stock. Its the same pool. They may have chipped in for 65 but they are both drawing from the same stockpile.
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The US test in 2019 I believe happened because the UK fired a dud in 2016 and everyone freaked out. I am sure the one they fired in 2019 wasn't "randomly" selected and shipped. I am sure they picked the best of the bunch and went over it with a fine tooth comb months in advanced because they couldn't risk having another one fail in front of everyone.
No, no - this is interesting, thank you. I did try and do a little searching for how many missiles Bongland might have but it seemed a tricky question to answer so I reverted back to seeing that there'd been an order for 65 and said well, lets just use 50 as an example as it seems in the right ballpark. My main goal was to do some elementary arithmetic and show how unlikely it was that they just happened on the two dud missiles. The more missiles there are, the greater the probability of a higher proportion of them being duds. The logic is fairly simple: the more missiles there are the less likely it is you happened on the only one or two missiles that were duds. So if you have two missiles, fire one and it's a dud this doesn't by itself mean the second is more or less likely to be a dud. It's still 50:50. But if you have a thousand missiles and test one and it's a dud, then probably many of your missiles are duds.

Though as you say, in the real world there are far more factors and I totally agree they wouldn't have just randomly selected one in 2019 (even though that would be how you should do testing). Which probably means our nuclear missiles are in a terrible shape.

I'm pretty disappointed this isn't getting compared to Epstein to some degree.
Do we think it was definitely an assassination? I'm talking about Navalny of course - Epstein certainly was. Navalny was in his fifties and in prison. It's not inconceivable he might just die and if anything it's more to the benefit of Western warhawks than it is Putin for him to die. It's not like he was any kind of actual political threat. Though I'm of course not saying it couldn't be assassination. Just that the Western papers have all just taken it as an absolute given and foreign policy really shouldn't be determined on someone who may or may not have had an actual heart attack.

I unironiclly suffer from the tism so sarcasm is hard for me on Good day and unfortunately the internet makes it that much more difficult forgive me.
Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. I genuinely couldn't tell if Betonhaus was serious, not serious or making fun of me for doing some maths. Text lacks a lot of context cues.
 
I just hope all recruiters get the same treatment from Hungarians there. Fuck off, this is not their war.
I don't mean to tangent the thread but can you explain your workings to get to these numbers?
I'm not good at statistics, but I do know you can calculate these expected values, Bayesian or something. I remember listening to a lot of sperging about it. So I asked the GPT. After like three pages of complicated formulas it came to the conclusion that from the 50 missiles, 285.73 are duds.
So yeah, we need to get an autist here for the proper calculations.
 
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For a President who swears he's not Putin he sure is acting very much like Putin what with the cancelled elections jailing opposition or forcing them to flee ect ect the Difference is Putin has run Russia and run it fairly well for years the same cannot be said for the procession of Western Puppet Leaders Ukraine has had post coup.

He has to do it because his opposition is all anti-democracy. He's saving democracy!

Math:

If I have 50 missiles, and N of them are duds, the probability of choosing 2 duds is (N choose 2) / (50 choose 2) =

NProbabiliby of choosing 2 random duds
20.1 %
40.5%
82.3%
169.8%
2422%
3240%
4064%
4892%
50100%

So it is highly unlikely there are fewer than 10 duds.
 
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I just hope all recruiters get the same treatment from Hungarians there. Fuck off, this is not their war.

I'm not good at statistics, but I do know you can calculate these expected values, Bayesian or something. I remember listening to a lot of sperging about it. So I asked the GPT. After like three pages of complicated formulas it came to the conclusion that from the 50 missiles, 285.73 are duds.
So yeah, we need to get an autist here for the proper calculations.
You can only estimate it and the estimate becomes more accurate the greater the sample size is relative to the population. E.g. if you test one missile out of fifty and it's a dud, I'm not sure you can say much about the total number of missiles that are. If you tested half of the missiles at random (25) and half of those (12) were duds then you could reasonably say that there were were 25 duds in total because you'd have established that half of the sample were duds so half the population likely is. I don't know how you calculate the reliability of your estimate, though. And of course this assumes a good faith effort to determine how many duds there are not an attempt to game the system by picking the most likely to succeed.

I'll have to think about this - it's a long time since I've done real mathematics.
 
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He has to do it because his opposition is all anti-democracy. He's saving democracy!
The greatest flaw in democracy has always been the people voting. Biden is simply perfecting Democracy to its final form by removing that problem at last. Now better informed and qualified people can simply decide the people's vote for them.
 
Zognik followed his Ukropsky pals on the Bandera train to hell:
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Timothy Donald Griffin, born 31 August 1982 from Rochester, New York. Griffin was a US Marine who came to the Ukraine after the start of the SMO in 2022. He joined the hohol International Legion where he was a Bravo 1 platoon commander.

On 7 November 2022 a majority of US media reported he was KIA somewhere in the Kharkov region. Yesterday his team members posted on social media a video showing his dead body right after he was killed.

These are his only available pictures/video.
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He was killed by the RuAF on 5 November 2022. Link to TG post
 
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