Naruto/Boruto Griefing Thread

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[Akumaten]

Naruto: "I train really hard and stumble along the way, but through sheer attrition I'm getting stronger!"
Sasuke: "i have magic eyes"

It's really:
Naruto: I'm an utter retard and you are just like me.
Sasuke: I'm a psycho and my family are psychos with magic eyes.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

It's really:
Naruto: I'm an utter retard and you are just like me.
Sasuke: I'm a psycho and my family are psychos with magic eyes.

Naruto is weird because in Part 2 he actually does show tactics. The issue is that “smart” characters in setting force everyone to act retarded. Shikamaru and Itachi basically require every character to fall into a plan perfectly and act like retards.

4chan did a re-read during the start of Covid and Naruto is mostly fine until he has a panic attack (which is kind of fine in context, but weird for a shonen manga). Sasuke suffers from Itachi literally being washed clean of everything. You could have him be loyal to the Third, but extremely asshurt that he got used by Danzo and it’d make the series a lot better. A lot of the 4chan criticisms of those threads were actually pretty good. It made you like Madara for being a madman.

 

[God of Nothing]

Naruto is weird because in Part 2 he actually does show tactics. The issue is that “smart” characters in setting force everyone to act retarded. Shikamaru and Itachi basically require every character to fall into a plan perfectly and act like retards.

4chan did a re-read during the start of Covid and Naruto is mostly fine until he has a panic attack (which is kind of fine in context, but weird for a shonen manga). Sasuke suffers from Itachi literally being washed clean of everything. You could have him be loyal to the Third, but extremely asshurt that he got used by Danzo and it’d make the series a lot better. A lot of the 4chan criticisms of those threads were actually pretty good. It made you like Madara for being a madman.

Naruto has situational intelligence. One minute, he's 4D chessing Zabuza's pea brain and the next he's asking Kakashi what chakra is. It's ridiculous.
Danzo did nothing wrong, period. Neither did Itachi. The Uchiha were acting like fucking niggers.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Naruto has situational intelligence. One minute, he's 4D chessing Zabuza's pea brain and the next he's asking Kakashi what chakra is. It's ridiculous.
Danzo did nothing wrong, period. Neither did Itachi. The Uchiha were acting like fucking niggers.

Naruto outthinks opponents regularly. He did this with Deidara, the Pein fight, and even against Itachi (who basically gets plot armor).

I feel like you could make Danzo better if it was a three way power struggle. You have those two fucks old fucks who basically stay in power the entire time. It’d be a better series if the Third basically had little actual power and basically was forced to be a pussy due to fatigue in the role and trying to oppose more organized political opponents.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Another month, another Boruto chapter.

Not a lot happens in this one but we get some pretty important things. Boruto and Mitsuki just fight. They always had this weird relationship where Mitsuki worshipped Boruto for some reason I never knew. I never liked it. It always felt very odd to me. Well now that it's switched with Kawaki, Mitsuki admits that he's been holding back a lot in his spars against the emo. Kawaki is apparently nowhere near as strong as Mitsuki and both are weaker than Code. Which is hilarious. I swear they have something against making their main antagonists actually threatening. Mitsuki figures out a little bit about the Swappening because he always felt something was wrong.

The big point of contention comes in the conversation between Boruto and Shikamaru. We get, hopefully, last retcon to how the swap jutsu, Omnipotence works. Apparently once you're told about Omnipotence, it will eventually fade from your memory entirely and this is not the first time Shikamaru is hearing about it, he just doesn't remember. Which fixes the plot hole of them twiddling their thumbs for three years, but in doing so opens a whole new can of worms. Every time this swap comes up it's like they blow off a part of their own foot with a shotgun in order to make it fit in a shoe. This is clearly another retcon, no matter what the retards say. If it wasn't, it would've been in chapter 1.

Either way, it seems like we're moving away from this stuff. Next chapter appears to be wrapping up this little bit and moving on to the Divine Trees invading Konoha. I won't be surprised if this arc ends with the scene from the start of the show. It increasingly feels like Ikemoto/Kishimoto is desperate to get away from that mess. I think they realized by now how much of a mistake this was and that they're constantly trying to cover their own asses since they botched the execution. I mean, who thought doing a reality swap of Boruto and Kawaki right before a time skip and not showing the immediate fallout was a good idea? That's the whole climax of what they were building up to and they time-skip right over it.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

It's really:
Naruto: I'm an utter retard and you are just like me.
Sasuke: I'm a psycho and my family are psychos with magic eyes.

I remember uncontrollably laughing when it was first revealed that the Sharingan was just ninja brain damage.

A lot of the 4chan criticisms of those threads were actually pretty good. It made you like Madara for being a madman.

There's not really much of a reason not to like Madara. He had a point, until the whole global fake reality thing. He didn't really need much else to make you think he's a villain. He was a decent enough villain, the only criminal thing was we didn't get enough of him.

And yes the Uchiha were and are fucking niggers.

 

[Kurohige]

And ya know, an entire village including Super Genius Shikamaru doesn't bother to question why Naruto named his son "Kawaki" but named some foster kid "Boruto" as in Bolt...after the Yellow Flash.

You are right about it being "bolt," but it isn't referring to his gramps. IIRC, Boruto's name is a tribute to his late-uncle's (Neji's) name, which means "screw," tightening (heh) well with the "bolt." Look at design choice in the Boruto anime's heading to see them really hammering that nail .

Also, 9 pages of sperging and not a single mention of the most memorable piece of media ever created because of this series:

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Naruto outthinks opponents regularly. He did this with Deidara, the Pein fight, and even against Itachi (who basically gets plot armor).

I feel like you could make Danzo better if it was a three way power struggle. You have those two fucks old fucks who basically stay in power the entire time. It’d be a better series if the Third basically had little actual power and basically was forced to be a pussy due to fatigue in the role and trying to oppose more organized political opponents.

That's one of my biggest complaints actually. Despite being are setting and the schism between its founders being so important to the story we have very little idea how Konoha works from a practical point.

The initial impression from the start us that the Hokage is the champion and defender that's why he's suppose to be the greatest ninja. What we see though is the Hokage just sitting around doing paperwork, which makes no sense to stick your toughest guy in an admin role. Then you add Danzo, the elders, and the various clans in the village but there's also like a feudal lord who runs the area outside of the village. I get it's a Shonen battle anime not a political thriller but we really have no idea how the setting works or what the stakes and agendas are.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

That's one of my biggest complaints actually. Despite being are setting and the schism between its founders being so important to the story we have very little idea how Konoha works from a practical point.

The initial impression from the start us that the Hokage is the champion and defender that's why he's suppose to be the greatest ninja. What we see though is the Hokage just sitting around doing paperwork, which makes no sense to stick your toughest guy in an admin role. Then you add Danzo, the elders, and the various clans in the village but there's also like a feudal lord who runs the area outside of the village. I get it's a Shonen battle anime not a political thriller but we really have no idea how the setting works or what the stakes and agendas are.

It’s what makes the setting frustrating. There are hints dropped here and there. During the exposition dump when the Hokages were brought back Tobirama (he’s racist. Based) basically organized it like a General during the 18th and 19th Century. The role divests power to secretaries under them.

It’s autistic, but you could hand wave the role becoming more administrative during peace time and people being petty like using protocol rules to create busy work that requires individual A to read and sign every page.

Danzo’s role is basically just running an intelligence network as that is what is traditionally thought of as ninjas. The average ninja in the setting is a gymnastic wizard. It’s outright stated that it’s not under the Hokage’s command and is a paramilitary organization that’s funded by black mail and siphoning funds.

The Feudal lord seems like it’s an open charade deal.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

During the exposition dump when the Hokages were brought back Tobirama (he’s racist. Based) basically organized it like a General during the 18th and 19th Century. The role divests power to secretaries under them.

To me it always sounded like they were mercenary armies for these Feudal Lords who were always feuding. I always got the impression Tobirama didn't exactly know what he was doing and was very out of his element with planning and mapping out all of this stuff. That's why Hashirama always seemed so much competent compared to everyone else, because he was the ideas guy and was very much the driving force behind it. You can't explain Tobirama for wanting to understand why the Uchiha were the way they were and what the Sharingan actually was.

Hell, if I found out the main power of my enemy clan that murdered my family in a never ending feud was actually just Ninja Brain Damage, I'd be pretty damn racist too. The Uchiha were the literal niggers of the Naruto universe.

Also, 9 pages of sperging and not a single mention of the most memorable piece of media ever created because of this series:

The Pokemon version of this will never not be hilarious.

 

[God of Nothing]

The Uchiha were the literal niggers of the Naruto universe.

People defend them like they were niggers too.
>They dindu nuffin!
>They were forced into positions of power only they of all clans occupied, maaaan!
>Given their own spaces away from the village after they started getting shit for rightfully being suspected behind The Nine-Tails' Attack (WHICH ACTUALLY WAS A FUCKING UCHIHA, MIND YOU)??? Discrimination!
>Killing them when damn near all their important leaders, in spite of everything they were given, conspired against the reigning government was uncalled for!
Which all leads up to my favorite
>Trying to end the world was totally justified
>Sasuke, a 16-18 year old going through a massive mental breakdown after realizing how much his clan was comprised of niggers, would totally bring about a golden age as an immortal dictator with nothing to temper him

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I’m still pissed that Kabuto never just brought back Sasuke’s parents during his fight against Itachi and Sauske. Or any of the clan beyond Madara. The war arc was pure fan service, but it would’ve been cool to have Kabuto use psychological torture instead of a straight up fight. Make Sasuke’s mother say horrible shit to fuck with him, make use of Naruto’s heritage and mother’s friendship, or have his Dad berate Itachi. Could’ve even just had Sasuke get some answers.

The clan seemed to adjust to the village. Shisui (?) was loyal and Danzo tore out his eyes because he couldn’t guarantee that Shisui would help put down an uprising. They weren’t totally niggers, but Madara was literally a seething faggot angry that Hashirama never dicked him down.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

People defend them like they were niggers too.
>They dindu nuffin!
>They were forced into positions of power only they of all clans occupied, maaaan!
>Given their own spaces away from the village after they started getting shit for rightfully being suspected behind The Nine-Tails' Attack (WHICH ACTUALLY WAS A FUCKING UCHIHA, MIND YOU)??? Discrimination!
>Killing them when damn near all their important leaders, in spite of everything they were given, conspired against the reigning government was uncalled for!
Which all leads up to my favorite
>Trying to end the world was totally justified
>Sasuke, a 16-18 year old going through a massive mental breakdown after realizing how much his clan was comprised of niggers, would totally bring about a golden age as an immortal dictator with nothing to temper him

Unlike any panel in Ikemoto's Boruto, this is a work of art.

 

[RybenZ999]

Does anyone else skip the flashbacks? They get really obnoxious during late shippuden (which is when I started skipping them).
"Oh finally that episode is over, now back to the main sto- GODDAMMIT NOT ANOTHER FLASHBACK EPISODE!"
Obito's backstory, Itachi's backstory, that goddamn swing..... they might as well be fillers. I don't care if they're listed in the canon section, I'm still skipping 70% of them. It would've been fine if it was just five minutes dedicated to them showing moments from a character's past, but holy crap they dedicate entire episodes to it.

 

[RybenZ999]

Not really? That was Lee's thing.

It was Naruto's thing too in part 1. One of the main plot points was Naruto getting tired of people calling him a failure all the time and him taking it upon himself to prove them wrong. Say what you want, but they at least tried to make him feel like a genuine underdog. Shippuden dropped it for the most part and became more about him uh... having lots of friends and valuing them? Yeah something like that.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Does anyone else skip the flashbacks?

If you hate flashbacks then you might as well skip Naruto the series. Because practically every single battle is filled with a history lesson or personal biography on a dozen different people. The first fights with Zabuza, the first real fights in the series, are basically interrupted so that they can talk to each other about village histories. Or they stop fighting to basically break the fourth wall and tell the audience about their strategies and explain the reason for every single move that they made in combat.

The flashbacks are also because the series was not really planned out and they just winged it as they wrote it. And they also wanted the story to be really easy for the readers to follow. So rather than have the audience need to remember anything from a previous chapter. They can just remind you of the important details through flashbacks and memories so you can read the series in order without having to think about anything.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

What becomes of a milf Hinata? That would be my only reason to pick up the series.

 

[RybenZ999]

If you hate flashbacks then you might as well skip Naruto the series. Because practically every single battle is filled with a history lesson or personal biography on a dozen different people. The first fights with Zabuza, the first real fights in the series, are basically interrupted so that they can talk to each other about village histories. Or they stop fighting to basically break the fourth wall and tell the audience about their strategies and explain the reason for every single move that they made in combat.

The flashbacks are also because the series was not really planned out and they just winged it as they wrote it. And they also wanted the story to be really easy for the readers to follow. So rather than have the audience need to remember anything from a previous chapter. They can just remind you of the important details through flashbacks and memories so you can read the series in order without having to think about anything.

Yeah but I feel it really goes into overdrive during late shippuden, around the war arc. Before, at least you could say that they tried to meld the flashbacks into the fights, which is why I put up with them for so long. When the war arc starts though, it's like one flashback after another after another, often spanning entire episodes. Like for pete's sake I don't wanna watch an episode long autobiography of every single character.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

What becomes of a milf Hinata? That would be my only reason to pick up the series.

Absolutely nothing. She's not even a background character, she's just a background. If you think her role in Shippuden was non-existent, wait till Boruto where she literally does nothing. She has fewer lines than she's ever had in Shippuden. I can only recall her speaking maybe once. She's IN scenes, but literally doesn't say anything. It's almost weird. Like she's not a part of the conversations taking place right in front of her.