Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[AnotherPleb]

It's over

That better be a fucking fake.

 

[Linoone]

I saw this image float around today. Can not confirm source or validity.
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It’s fake. Comments say it’s from a mod, don’t know where from exactly.

 

[Archeops]

The obligatory Pokémon Day Pokémon Presents has been announced.

There aren't any details on it yet, I just wanted to share the thumbnail because I think it's cute. One of the best parts of this new generation has been all the marketing focusing on pastel mosaics; I think it's a very pretty new direction to use.

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Any speculation, I guess? I'm personally expecting the announcement of BW remakes as the main event (since it's that part of the generational cycle and GF want money), with almost nothing else of substance to the rest of the video. It's probably gonna be those remakes and then like 80% mobile game filler fluff. Maybe some card game stuff or merch updates. The last two Presents have taught me to keep my expectations through the floor.

Card game stuff is usually announced at events like the World Championships or reported on by sites like Pokébeach when Japan gets information, the only time I remember them announcing anything TCG-related was the Pokémon Trading Card Game Classic product last year.

But this year it appears TPCi is trying to bring people back to Leagues by having them host a Pokémon Day event. Here's a photo of the stuff locations are getting to support the event.

Here's what I can see in the pic:

• Stamped League promos of Pikachu, Twin Energy, Flapple, Coalossal, and Mr. Rime. All of these promos were originally meant to be given away in past League seasons but never were due to the lockdowns. Each pack contains between 40-50 cards depending on the promo. Oh, and outside of the Pikachu all of these cards have been rotated out of the Standard format.
• Sticker sheets
• Code cards for Pokémon GO
• Promotional dice sets. The ones in the pic are similar to ones found in certain TCG products but these have an exclusive design.
• Pikachu Moods figures, a Pokémon Center-exclusive item
• Two Pokémon GO TCG tins (contents are 4 packs of the Pokémon GO TCG set, a foil promo featuring Pikachu/Blissey/Snorlax, an additional foil promo featuring Pikachu, a sticker sheet, and a code for the Pokémon TCG Live)
• One Poké Ball-themed tin. These contain two TCG packs of varying regular sets and a plastic flip-coin.
• One Pokémon Center-exclusive Elite Trainer Box. This item is probably the one most people will want since it's better than the regular ETBs that stores sell but it'll probably be the top prize in a TCG tournament or given out as a "random goodness" prize.
• Two “Intro” half-decks designed to teach new players how to play the game, these were introduced last year and the only worth mentioning about ‘em is that they include non-holo copies of Greninja V, Umbreon V, or Lucario V depending on the deck.

EDIT: I forgot to mention one product that‘s included in the kit.

 

[Kurohige]

I'm wondering if any Kiwis like to play Pokédoku. It's just what it sounds like—using the National Dex (+Megas and GMax) to fill in requisite slots. They recently implemented a Pokédex feature to incentive uniqueness too!

PokeDoku Champion
By: Goon Squad (actually the name lmao)

Score: 9/9
Uniqueness: 33/14
Streak: 1





Play at: https://pokedoku.com

 

[I_Lurk_Here]

PokeDoku Champion By: Goon Squad Score: 9/9 Uniqueness: 127/14 Play at: https://pokedoku.com

Edit: Do they goon to the Pokémon or Poké Girls?

 

[Squawking Macaw]

I was continuing my first playthrough of Crystal (I've been ducking Gen II forever) and I made it to the Dragon's Den. I enter from Blackthorn, and I'm greeted with this:

Hardware limitations be damned, what the hell were they thinking putting this in?

Here's something to cleanse the ears:

I'm wondering if any Kiwis like to play Pokédoku. It's just what it sounds like—using the National Dex (+Megas and GMax) to fill in requisite slots. They recently implemented a Pokédex feature to incentive uniqueness too!

PokeDoku Champion
By: Goon Squad (actually the name lmao)

Score: 9/9
Uniqueness: 33/14
Streak: 1





Play at: https://pokedoku.com

It's neat

 

[Archeops]

For those of you still playing Scarlet/Violet the newest Mass Outbreak event just activated. You can now encounter Voltorb, Foongus, and Hisuian Voltorb in boosted-Shiny-odds outbreaks.

This normally wouldn't be something I'd just bring up and leave it at that, but this is one is pretty important since it shows that GF can make regional variants that aren't native to SV or its DLC available via these events.

 

[anime jetplane]

For those of you still playing Scarlet/Violet the newest Mass Outbreak event just activated. You can now encounter Voltorb, Foongus, and Hisuian Voltorb in boosted-Shiny-odds outbreaks.

This normally wouldn't be something I'd just bring up and leave it at that, but this is one is pretty important since it shows that GF can make regional variants that aren't native to SV or its DLC available via these events.

Thank you for the info.

Fuck shiny hunting again for pokemon you already had shinies of in an earlier game. There is no shame in using Pkhex when you can't easily get your pokemon from the DS games to whatever the current console is. There's no reason why GF can't make a all in one cartridge adapter for all the older titles that only works for migrating pokemon over one way and refresh the hardware every console generation. Would be well worth the money instead of whatever useless overpriced dongles they made for Pokemon GO.

Not to mention the insane amount of unused "met at:" locations that you can only really see in Pkhex.

 

[Howling Janny Dog]

For those of you still playing Scarlet/Violet the newest Mass Outbreak event just activated. You can now encounter Voltorb, Foongus, and Hisuian Voltorb in boosted-Shiny-odds outbreaks.

This normally wouldn't be something I'd just bring up and leave it at that, but this is one is pretty important since it shows that GF can make regional variants that aren't native to SV or its DLC available via these events.

thx for the heads up, finally I can get a hisuian voltorb in a luxury ball.

 

[Archeops]

Thank you for the info.

thx for the heads up, finally I can get a hisuian voltorb in a luxury ball.

No problem, I'll probably update my outbreak spawns tomorrow but I like having Gulpin, Stunky, Clauncher, and Skrelp with a higher chance of having Uncommon and Rare Marks.

Fuck shiny hunting again for pokemon you already had shinies of in an earlier game. There is no shame in using Pkhex when you can't easily get your pokemon from the DS games to whatever the current console is. There's no reason why GF can't make a all in one cartridge adapter for all the older titles that only works for migrating pokemon over one way and refresh the hardware every console generation. Would be well worth the money instead of whatever useless overpriced dongles they made for Pokemon GO.

I think part of the issue with making dongles is that there's also a software component to the data files that actually make up Pokémon, it usually gets refreshed in some way every generation to discourage injectors and transferring them with with the features Gen 4/Gen 5/Bank/Home helps with converting said files.

Also, you should be much more careful now with injecting for tournaments. TPCi recently announced that players will have to submit a Rental Team ID when submitting their VGC teams come March. You know, the same kind of Rental Team IDs that Kaphotics uses to see if a competitor's Pokémon passes the digital sniff test or not and then hangs out said teams like a pair of DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS on Twitter?

 

[Howling Janny Dog]

Also, you should be much more careful now with injecting for tournaments. TPCi recently announced that players will have to submit a Rental Team ID when submitting their VGC teams come March. You know, the same kind of Rental Team IDs that Kaphotics uses to see if a competitor's Pokémon passes the digital sniff test or not and then hangs out said teams like a pair of DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS on Twitter?

What are those "digital sniff tests" exactly? I heard once that one of the japanese players was caught using an amoonguss with it's attack IV artificially lowered to 0 but I still don't know how exactly they figured that out, nor whether the claim was even true to begin with.

 

[Archeops]

What are those "digital sniff tests" exactly?

From what I understand people like Kaphotics use Switch homebrew to get the Rental Team's bin data and then they dump that data into PKHeX to see if there's any illegitimate/fudged data that pops up in a specific Pokémon's file structure.

I heard once that one of the japanese players was caught using an amoonguss with it's attack IV artificially lowered to 0 but I still don't know how exactly they figured that out, nor whether the claim was even true to begin with.

That was from Kaphotics' rundown on the presence of hacked Pokémon at Worlds 2023, apparently TPCi's hack checks at the time didn't check for raid RNG correlations and that's how it was able to sneak through. Two Genies (Tornadus and Landorus) "caught" via a Max Raid also had this issue and they were also able to sneak in.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

What are those "digital sniff tests" exactly? I heard once that one of the japanese players was caught using an amoonguss with it's attack IV artificially lowered to 0 but I still don't know how exactly they figured that out, nor whether the claim was even true to begin with.

I've been trying to get into RNG so I think I can answer this from the mechanics side.

Every Pokemon has a hidden value called a PID and this value is directly linked to the Pokemon's exact IVs, nature, ability, shininess and gender. If any of these are modified, it will cause a PID mismatch and result in an invalid checksum, therefore an illegal Pokemon. The only way to avoid getting this warning is to replace the PID with one that has the IVs, nature, etc. you want, but that's easier said than done so most hackers don't bother. PKHex's legality checker is also much more complex than the official legality checkers in Home and Bank and will pick up on these things whereas the official ones will only respond to obvious hacks like unobtainable moves.

 

[Howling Janny Dog]

I've been trying to get into RNG so I think I can answer this from the mechanics side.

Every Pokemon has a hidden value called a PID and this value is directly linked to the Pokemon's exact IVs, nature, ability, shininess and gender. If any of these are modified, it will cause a PID mismatch and result in an invalid checksum, therefore an illegal Pokemon. The only way to avoid getting this warning is to replace the PID with one that has the IVs, nature, etc. you want, but that's easier said than done so most hackers don't bother. PKHex's legality checker is also much more complex than the official legality checkers in Home and Bank and will pick up on these things whereas the official ones will only respond to obvious hacks like unobtainable moves.

I see. Does that also apply when for instance you put in a cheat code for all pkmn you encounter to be shiny and then catch one? In this case I haven't changed anything about the pkmn in question after catching it.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

I see. Does that also apply when for instance you put in a cheat code for all pkmn you encounter to be shiny and then catch one? In this case I haven't changed anything about the pkmn in question after catching it.

I'm not sure as I've never used cheat codes, but I assume a shiny cheat code would work by forcing the game to generate a shiny PID, so there wouldn't be a mismatch unless you were to catch a shiny-locked Pokemon.

 

[Howling Janny Dog]

I'm not sure as I've never used cheat codes, but I assume a shiny cheat code would work by forcing the game to generate a shiny PID, so there wouldn't be a mismatch unless you were to catch a shiny-locked Pokemon.

Thanks, I'm going to take an extended vacation in Johto and Unova

 

[ToroidalBoat]

bǎo kě mèng
寶可夢

meaning: ポケモン
literal: precious may dream

 

[Kurohige]

Every Pokemon has a hidden value called a PID and this value is directly linked to the Pokemon's exact IVs, nature, ability, shininess and gender. If any of these are modified, it will cause a PID mismatch and result in an invalid checksum, therefore an illegal Pokemon. The only way to avoid getting this warning is to replace the PID with one that has the IVs, nature, etc. you want, but that's easier said than done so most hackers don't bother. PKHex's legality checker is also much more complex than the official legality checkers in Home and Bank and will pick up on these things whereas the official ones will only respond to obvious hacks like unobtainable moves.

Correct. I remember trying to change the IVs and nature of a mon during my first ever nuzlocke just to make it at least usable, and getting the warning that there was a mismatch. I think I was playing FRLG, at the time.

There is an application on Project Pokémon that allows you to check which PID is needed to perfectly edit your mon with getting that little red triangle, but even it felt a tad convoluted to use.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

the story of almost every "core series" pocketmons game:

Start in home town, meet a professor named after tree, get starter 'mon (almost always fire, grass, or water types), go out on an unsupervised adventure, get gym badges, thwart the local villain team and their boss, defeat the rival, take on the 四天王 and champion, become champion, then the possible postgame stuff? Also, a big legendary.

At least there have been unique stories, like the plots of Colosseum and XD.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I don't remember, did someone link this video before or no? Because this is a great, cute idea.