Odysseus becomes first US spacecraft to land on moon in over 50 years

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Odysseus is heading for a landing site near Malapert A, an impact crater near the moon's south pole.
NASA describes it like this:
"(A) relatively flat and safe region is within the heavily cratered southern highlands on the side of the Moon visible from Earth."
The space agency said it chose this landing site for Intuitive Machines' first mission because it wanted to learn more about the lunar environment and how communications function in this area.
And there's a key reason why: NASA wants to scout the lunar south pole because the space agency believes it's the best location to set up a future astronaut base.

The US-made Odysseus lunar lander has made a touchdown on the moon, surpassing its final key milestones — and the odds — to become the first commercial spacecraft to accomplish such a feat, but the condition of the lander remains in question.

Intuitive Machines, however, says the mission has been successful.

"I know this was a nail-biter, but we are on the surface, and we are transmitting," Intuitive Machines CEO Steve Altemus just announced on the webcast. "Welcome to the moon."

Odysseus is the first vehicle launched from the United States to land on the moon’s surface since the Apollo 17 mission in 1972.

Mission controllers from Intuitive Machines, the Houston-based company that developed the robotic explorer, confirmed the lander reached the lunar surface Thursday evening.

The uncrewed spacecraft traveled hundreds of thousands of miles from its Florida launch site at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center to the moon before making its final, perilous swoop to the lunar surface.
 
You do know we have literal departments of government that have been kept secret from everyone for decades, right? One I just illustrated earlier as existing that no one outside of it knew about at all. We are very good at keeping secrets when it counts, we have entire classification systems dedicated to it. We have advanced surveillance now that make large scale leaks impossible. You don't even have to perfectly control information or stop leaks at all, you just use your position of authority to say "yeah they are crazy and have nothing to back it up" and that's good enough for you.

Do you think the government gives a shit about blowing up a Shuttle? Or blowing up a building? Or an entire country?
The atomic bomb was kept under strict secrecy until the Soviets could get a few people to turn and provide information that enabled them to catch up and develop their own. And that was a project considered essential to national security, not blowing up shuttles for some ridiculous reason.

If anything these nonsensical theories are more likely to be from the government than anything else because they make you doubt everything you know and see a conspiracy lurking behind every single action. The point is to make you paranoid and break you down mentally.

The Air Force used these exact tactics to push UFO researcher Paul Bennewitz into a psychotic break that ultimately led to spending a month institutionalized in a psychiatric hospital.
 
The atomic bomb was kept under strict secrecy until the Soviets could get a few people to turn and provide information that enabled them to catch up and develop their own. And that was a project considered essential to national security, not blowing up shuttles for some ridiculous reason.
Yeah and who leaked the atomic bomb to the Russians, what was their motivations? Oh it was a bunch of jews, jewing the USA? Why did you leave that part out?

If anything these nonsensical theories are more likely to be from the government than anything else because they make you doubt everything you know and see a conspiracy lurking behind every single action. The point is to make you paranoid and break you down mentally.
Yeah everything is so nonsensical, you'd have to be crazy to believe it. I wonder why you'd say that then tie it into this:

The Air Force used these exact tactics to push UFO researcher Paul Bennewitz into a psychotic break that ultimately led to spending a month institutionalized in a psychiatric hospital.
"Conspiracy theories are stupid, anyway here's a Conspiracy theory".


Aliens don't exist, UFOs are just a cover for secret government projects. Of course someone who flew too close to the sun is going to get fucked with until they stop, then they are killed. This is standard procedure.

Crazy how you are as retarded as you are completely wrong.
 
you can shoot a laser at the moon and it'll bounce back.
Have you done it?

The atomic bomb was kept under strict secrecy until the Soviets could get a few people to turn and provide information that enabled them to catch up and develop their own. And that was a project considered essential to national security, not blowing up shuttles for some ridiculous reason.
But what if nukes, and by extension the Atomic Bomb, aren't real?
 
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Yeah and who leaked the atomic bomb to the Russians, what was their motivations? Oh it was a bunch of jews, jewing the USA? Why did you leave that part out?
What does that even matter when it comes to whether or not someone might leak information about a secret project? The Nazis couldn't keep their nuclear project secure, allowing the Allies to sabotage the heavy water plant in Norway. Robert Hanssen turned and worked for the KGB, exposing CIA informants in the country to arrest and execution.
Yeah everything is so nonsensical, you'd have to be crazy to believe it. I wonder why you'd say that then tie it into this:
Yes, believing the government blew up the space shuttle for some unknown reason and faked the deaths of the astronauts is stupid. Nobody can come up with a logical explanation as to why they would do this. And nobody at all who investigated it anywhere in the world at any time has ever been able to find anything remotely confirming this theory?

Instead the smoking gun is "Elvis Lives"-grade photos of people who kind of look like the astronauts from some random Internet forum.
"Conspiracy theories are stupid, anyway here's a Conspiracy theory".

Aliens don't exist, UFOs are just a cover for secret government projects. Of course someone who flew too close to the sun is going to get fucked with until they stop, then they are killed. This is standard procedure.

Crazy how you are as retarded as you are completely wrong.
It's not a theory, what happened to Bennewitz is a fact. CIA documents have confirmed two Air Force officers were feeding information to Paul because he was getting too close to certain things the Air Force wanted to keep confidential.

Breaking people down and making them look like nutjobs, such as believing the Challenger disaster was faked, is exactly their MO.
 
What does that even matter when it comes to whether or not someone might leak information about a secret project?
Well jews were obviously able to keep secrets about being spies. So I guess people can keep secrets after all. It's not like MK Ultra was found by leftover documents in a random storage room after all. So weird how you can't back up any of your own bullshit.
The Nazis couldn't keep their nuclear project secure, allowing the Allies to sabotage the heavy water plant in Norway. Robert Hanssen turned and worked for the KGB, exposing CIA informants in the country to arrest and execution.
The allies had broken all axis encryption prewar. They couldn't keep anything secret, which is why the holocaust is an obvious lie.
Yes, believing the government blew up the space shuttle for some unknown reason and faked the deaths of the astronauts is stupid. Nobody can come up with a logical explanation as to why they would do this. And nobody at all who investigated it anywhere in the world at any time has ever been able to find anything remotely confirming this theory?

Instead the smoking gun is "Elvis Lives"-grade photos of people who kind of look like the astronauts from some random Internet forum.
The Space Shuttle had the Canada Arm for capturing satellites and other secret programs. The Space Shuttle was a military vehicle, not a scientific one. It was retired because it outlived its usefulness and tragic events are the perfect way to change public opinion. Remember they wanted to put Big Bird on it, but I guess that was too on the nose.
It's not a theory, what happened to Bennewitz is a fact. CIA documents have confirmed two Air Force officers were feeding information to Paul because he was getting too close to certain things the Air Force wanted to keep confidential.

Breaking people down and making them look like nutjobs, such as believing the Challenger disaster was faked, is exactly their MO.
So you admit even more government conspiracies exist with even more layers of secrecy involved. You've got a wonderful ability to shoot your own arguments in the foot.
 
So you admit even more government conspiracies exist with even more layers of secrecy involved. You've got a wonderful ability to shoot your own arguments in the foot.
Whatever. Keep on believing the Holocaust was a hoax and the Challenger was a secret military vehicle that was blown up by the government so that they could blow up another one 17 years later for some reason and then finally retire the Shuttle. You sound like those nutjobs on ZeroHedge.
 
Whatever. Keep on believing the Holocaust was a hoax and the Challenger was a secret military vehicle that was blown up by the government so that they could blow up another one 17 years later for some reason and then finally retire the Shuttle. You sound like those nutjobs on ZeroHedge.
Keep having zero critical thinking skills because you think space is neat. Your inability to respond just shows your own hypocritical inability to form rational arguments.
 
During the space race between America and the USSR - which was part of a larger ideological race to prove which was superior, communism or capitalism, The USSR beat America at every milestone.
Just add the word "successful" and most (but not all) of the milestones switch sides.
That considered, why, if ideological superiority was so important on every metric, did the USSR - the superior space-farers, give up the ghost on getting to the moon?
The Soviet lead in the space race was based entirely on the excellent R-7 rocket, still in use today. Saturn could carry more payload and Gemini was far superior to any Soviet spacecraft until Soyuz. The only operational booster the Soviets / Russians ever had able to lift a moon lander was Energia, cancelled because most of it was built in Ukraine.
Furthermore, why did only 4 missions go to the moon, over a course of 5 years, all from the same country, all using the same company and then abruptly stop, while ahead, with no other country even attempting to send a manned craft the moon ever again?
Apollo performed six crewed landings and three crewed missions which did not land, between 1968 and 1972. Your grasp of space history is as poor as your skills in subtracting.
 
I've never given it much thought until now, but wouldn't it be a bad idea to have a moon base? Wouldn't putting shit on it possibly cause problems with the Earth's axis?
 
I've never given it much thought until now, but wouldn't it be a bad idea to have a moon base? Wouldn't putting shit on it possibly cause problems with the Earth's axis?
That's not how it works, you could cover the surface of the Moon with colonies and it wouldn't change how the Earth and the Moon interact with eachother in terms of gravity.
 
The Soviet lead in the space race was based entirely on the excellent R-7 rocket, still in use today. Saturn could carry more payload and Gemini was far superior to any Soviet spacecraft until Soyuz. The only operational booster the Soviets / Russians ever had able to lift a moon lander was Energia, cancelled because most of it was built in Ukraine.

Modern day tech is worse than 1960's USSR?

Apollo performed six crewed landings and three crewed missions which did not land, between 1968 and 1972. Your grasp of space history is as poor as your skills in subtracting.
What years did they land? Are there any other manned missions that landed on the moon?
 
We are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are. One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
 
Looks like it tipped over, not as bad as the Jap one a few weeks ago though. The company's stock that made it crashed real hard too after hours.
 
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Oh, that's proper neat. What does it do?
Occam's Razor says because we can't get there.
Occam's Razor is a redditor's tool to pretend they have you have the upper hand in any discussion: you just need to rephrase a fact in an obtuse and contrived way, then claim Occam.

A more compelling reason is because there really is nothing there for us. Astronauts have to freeze their sperm because the solar radiation will fry their balls off and render them infertile for life. Low-grav environments weaken the bones, muscles, and eyes. Astronauts unironically live in a pod and eat sludge, and can only leave their pod in a heavy, claustrophic suit for hours at a time. There has to be a huge payoff to make it worth going back.
There's maybe water on the moon, yeah that'd be cool from an academic perspective to confirm or deny, I can get behind that, learning about the formation of the solar systerm and--no, wait, nigger you want a fucking moon colony? How the fuck are you going to raise a child when the low-grav means their bones are going to be beyond puberty-blocker levels of fucked? And again, the solar radiation, and the surface temperature make it completely uninhabitable outside of a delicately managed pod. No you can't just terraform the moon like in a video game, the moon doesn't have the gravity to hold an atmosphere. Are you going to live underground? What's the fucking point of "muh final frontier" if you're just recreating globohomo's ideal city structure but IN SPAAAACE?
The Earth is mankind's wife. There is no option for divorce.
 
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