Plagued Soyjak.Party / The Sharty - The altchan born from the ashes of /qa/; also a containment thread

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The mods are walking a very thin line with these anti-dox measures, restricting doxing to the entirely arbitrary category of "sharty enemies" and trying to disingenuously label anybody against the changes as cordfaggots. A lot of the talk of what the sharty is "meant" to be about reminds me of the meltdown of the Opie & Anthony subreddit (predecessor to ONAForums) that stemmed from the mods trying to ban posting about Fatrick Tomlinson, because the sub was "meant" to be solely about the O&A radio show, and fuck what the users actually wanted to post about. And if this change is completely the result of concerns over hosting, why the hell are you antagonizing your users? Are you trying to fuck yourself over? Implementing controversial new rules that restrict what users can post sitewide and then ridiculing them for not blindly singing your praises is insanely faggy, and will only net you more enemies. Get the fuck over yourselves.

And sure, if anybody feels like they're not free to dig into tranny pedophiles on the sharty, you're more than free to here. Just don't be a sperg about it and don't go off-site to harass people.
 
What I think should be implemented:
Visible Boards:
/soy/ - IAS Only (except for raiding), roll /r/
/qa/ - NAS, purge all bronies, furries
/webm/ - should be obvious
/mtv/ - Roll /a/
/int/ - Roll /pol/
/dev/ - Soycraft, TF2, etc.
/q/ -
Hidden Boards:
/nate/
/caca/
Make some sort of poll, like with the 50 Board Plan, to decide which 2 or 3 will be kept.
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One day ban for posting NAS on /soy/, hashban all frogs and perma repeat offenders.
Keep the current doxxing rules.
 
First, I can mentally feel you being soyquoted in the mod chat right now.

restricting doxing to the entirely arbitrary category of "sharty enemies"

As far as what I've gleaned from the wording and Doll's posts, "enemies" in the pinned post means those who try to take action against the site, whether it be submitting shitflare abuse reports, doxing 'teens, antagonizing, or snitching. Essentially, doxing has become what lethal force to an officer is, (debatably, at least on paper, let's not make this political sperging) the last resort, when somebody is seriously overreaching and trying to harm the stability of the site, even if it's a minuscule chance of actually succeeding like abuse reports. Doll said he won't interfere if you try to bait someone you are raiding into getting into that status, so do with that info what you will.

I agree with the rest. Dismissing and creating an "us versus them" with "them" being labelled as a group that is already hated doesn't do much. It splits an already split community.

And sure, if anybody feels like they're not free to dig into tranny pedophiles on the sharty, you're more than free to here. Just don't be a sperg about it and don't go off-site to harass people.
To be clear, only do this if the target is tangibly related to 'sharty drama, otherwise we don't give a shit.
 
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As far as what I've gleaned from the wording and Doll's posts, "enemies" in the pinned post means those who try to take action against the site, whether it be submitting shitflare abuse reports, doxing 'teens, antagonizing, or snitching. Essentially, doxing has become what lethal force to an officer is, (debatably, at least on paper, let's not make this political sperging) the last resort, when somebody is seriously overreaching and trying to harm the stability of the site, even if it's a minuscule chance of actually succeeding like abuse reports. Doll said he won't interfere if you try to bait someone you are raiding into getting into that status, so do with that info what you will.
If the concern is over being reported to their hosts, what good does banning the doxing of randos do if you're still going to purposefully target the people actually filing the reports? And what good does baiting people into filing reports do??? If the mods are worried about losing hosts due to doxing, why are they only banning some of it? Without banning it entirely, the reportfags still have stuff to report, and limiting the doxing to just them will only give them more energy to file reports, because now you've made it personal. Unless there were some other points I'm missing, this reasoning makes zero sense. This will either do nothing to actually address the issue of hosting, or it is the first step on a slippery slope to banning all doxing, and the mods just don't want to come out and say it.
 
ehhhh i think i will side with Doll on this one, shit was getting out of hand very fast with 100000 useless doxxing threads about literal whos only 2-3 people cared about with only 2 or 3 actually interesting threads, and even less threads that actually had a gemmy outcome.
Not to mention this shit was putting a target way too big in the 'sharty that both trannies and glowies were gonna abuse to take it down, after all the 'sharty doesn't have the infrastructure KF has to defend angaist this stuff.
and lastly its a proven fact that foodists and other groups have tried to use these kind of events to try to recruit people in the site, right now there is some schizo posting O9A propaganda in /nate/ and in some threads in the site, we all known what those groups are infamous for
 
the rule change is too black and white, jannie should just sweep up the dox threads for literal whos and leave up the ones that get actual traction
Literally the embodiment of what I actively fight against here; ambiguity in the rules. The rule change is not too black and white, but rather necessary and reasonable. Like they've said trying to defend it, Soot didn't allow doxxing. This, coupled with the excellent arguments that have been presented by other users, justifies why this rule change is a good thing. The more ambiguity that is in the rules, the more that people will find ways to exploit that ambiguity and cause more and more problems in the long run.
I can understand people being upset over it, it's natural to be upset when you disagree with something. And it's natural to think you have a valid case for being upset. But I ask you all to try and think beyond that and to realize the rule change was justified, and not just some sort of power play like some are trying to make it out to be.

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the rule change is too black and white, jannie should just sweep up the dox threads for literal whos and leave up the ones that get actual traction or however the slavic cyber harassment forum is moderated.
to be fair most of these rule changes are experimental and get changed very fast in the 'sharty so we will have to wait and see. remenber when everyone thought the site was gone for good in august? yep

Also its insane how many 'sharty splinters there are now, i think only the 'cuck has more
 
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ive just checked my email and found out i could’ve been a janitor over Fraulein Troonjak, and stopped his sperg-out on the ‘farms
Send a reply to him and I can talk to root about it.
I don't think we are familiar with the scars on your hand. It would have been easier to just post on the sharty saying "I am EszettDoll on kiwifarms."
It'd be really strange and random for me to do that out of the blue, but a question came up earlier so now everyone can rest easy that the obvious has been confirmed.
The one thing I find annoying with 'sharty admins, especially Doll is that they never talk, and leave their actions up for interpretation until it's too late. We never got any word when suggestion posts on /q/ about how to mitigate 'cord spam were made. We have never heard word from the VPN posting bans and how they don't work to prevent 'cord link spam.

It's like, you could've completely avoided this disaster if you had announced the exact intentions beforehand. You could've completely stopped /soy/ from thinking that feds took over like what happened with /b/. Instead of making everyone shit their pants, you could've just said that the limit was on major people like the DNSL raid.

The Doll F&Q is my only reason for liking Doll, he was extremely articulate with opinions and it was the first time where I felt like I and others were being listened to. I also found it interesting as to how things work backdoors. I like it when Doll posts, but jannies really need to start being more transparent. I'm not mad, I'm just making it known that people want more talk.
There are a lot of people and sites within the soysphere between the official sites, the splinters, the game servers, and the offsite communities like this that I try to interact with on a daily to weekly basis. Between the jannies, developers, fnac crew, youtube, and the users, I rarely have time to articulate a full thought to every person at once and spend a lot of time at work daydreaming how to structure the way the sites should be ran and how I am going to break it to others. I will try to cut down on this preparation time as we go forward so it doesn't leave everyone in the dark.
@EszettDoll Don't do the Kuz thing where you make a change and then immediately reverse the change after people start complaining. It didn't help, and just made the site administration look like a joke. At least wait 2 or so more weeks until the backlash will likely have died down
It is very rare for me to do something like that. Most of the choices made by me are thought over for many days prior to making them, so its really counterproductive to go back on something I might of planned for a few months. The only problem I forsee is how willing jannies are to enforce changes, but that is for root to figure out and we will get more jannies if the current group is having trouble.
As far as what I've gleaned from the wording and Doll's posts, "enemies" in the pinned post means those who try to take action against the site, whether it be submitting shitflare abuse reports, doxing 'teens, antagonizing, or snitching. Essentially, doxing has become what lethal force to an officer is, (debatably, at least on paper, let's not make this political sperging) the last resort, when somebody is seriously overreaching and trying to harm the stability of the site, even if it's a minuscule chance of actually succeeding like abuse reports. Doll said he won't interfere if you try to bait someone you are raiding into getting into that status, so do with that info what you will.
My interpretation is that if you come at the site with the intent to harm it via attacking the infrastructure, users, or staff, then you should be prepared to receive some blowback. If one of those people comes to the site and reports that there is stuff about them on the site, then janny knows to tell me about it before any action is taken. The party is a waterfall on the edge of a cliff. It starts off very slow, then you hear the falling water, and if you don't get out of the current you are going to drown.
If the concern is over being reported to their hosts, what good does banning the doxing of randos do if you're still going to purposefully target the people actually filing the reports? And what good does baiting people into filing reports do??? If the mods are worried about losing hosts due to doxing, why are they only banning some of it? Without banning it entirely, the reportfags still have stuff to report, and limiting the doxing to just them will only give them more energy to file reports, because now you've made it personal. Unless there were some other points I'm missing, this reasoning makes zero sense. This will either do nothing to actually address the issue of hosting, or it is the first step on a slippery slope to banning all doxing, and the mods just don't want to come out and say it.
The staff won't target anyone. I am not liable for what the users do. They can report the dox threads as they come up and they will be handled, and if someone tries to hurt the site rather than contact the staff, then they are really tying my hands. Janny is a little yellow dog with glasses that lives inside all imageboard users, and he gets pissed just like you do. If he is awake or watching the site when I am not, or if he isn't online when he is supposed to be, and that material gets posted, and it is known the person being hit with the dox is trying to get the site taken down, then it is what it is. I can chide him for hours or fire him or the person that reported the site can take their information off of the internet and protect themselves rather than targeting me for running the funny woahjak site. The immediate solution is the last one.
If the posts are still up, report them so Doll grabs the IP and hands over the info to who it needs to be handed off to.
Its been handled, thank you.
 
YOU WILL NOT humiliate coal game developers because xey make my clitty leak like viagra falls
Mindbroken.
The nigger that made "Neet Girl Date Night" just got a doxxerald and you're saying we need less?
I want every troon that spammed xeir game on the 'cuck to get hit.

Honestly @EszettDoll wtf are you playing at. I actually thought you were a fairly good admin so this comes as a surprise to me.
 
On one hand I get where's he's coming from, we shouldn't stoop to their level. but on another hand trannies only want the elimination of the other side, you can't reason or compromise with that. their desire to kill the sharty is eternal. trying to be the bigger man just doesn't work. Just another example of trannies being allowed to do whatever they want and face no reproductions for their actions.
 
lets be realistic here, if someone really decided to do a genuine attack on the 'sharty there isn't much they could do angaist it, specially if the website proudly advertises itself as a haven for harrassing random trannies in the internet, this would mean that even the people that aren't involved in the doxxing actings would lose one of the funniest websites in the modern internet, all due to some pissed off troons. the new rules are a tactic to avoid that, specially after the soypocalypse very near miss.
 
lets be realistic here, if someone really decided to do a genuine attack on the 'sharty there isn't much they could do angaist it, specially if the website proudly advertises itself as a haven for harrassing random trannies in the internet, this would mean that even the people that aren't involved in the doxxing actings would lose one of the funniest websites in the modern internet, all due to some pissed off troons. the new rules are a tactic to avoid that, specially after the soypocalypse very near miss.
Trannies are still gonna find reasons to try and get the site shutdown for past doxing's. they want any reason to be pissed off about something. Sharty snitch is still gonna be a problem to deal with during future raids. The dox ban should reduce the chances of that happening but I don't think its gonna prevent it entirely. (even though 4cuck got blamed for most of shartys raids and even snitches blame 4cuck because nobody knows what the sharty is)

The good thing is innocent people who aren't causing any harm to people, aren't gonna be targets for them anymore. It was getting really annoying seeing soyteens go after people who made 1 or 2 references to soy culture or did something they considered "degenerate" and took it as a grand offense that must be punished..
 
soyjaks and the culture around it was just about mocking and annoying people in funny and interesting ways. I think the site stepping away from being the "chud moralfag cancel culture website" will be an overall improvement to its health long-term, but I don't think it'll get back to its golden era.

Back when soot still owned the site, the most "raiding" that happened was just plastering soyjaks on random websites to annoy the owners for the lulz. I think a lot of new sharty users, especially ones coming off the high of doxes, want to use the bald cartoon man with glasses website as some kind of cultural war tool instead of just making fun of soyboys because it's funny. It's really cringe.
 
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