Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Homo neanderthalensis said:
Tucker Carlson pushing around Russian shopping carts with 10 rubels in them must be so damaging to the NeoBandera regime, that they paid $4000 to some dude ductaping a Nokia phone to a black box.
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I'm at a loss to explain what Ukraine thought they would gain by killing Tucker Carlson. How was that supposed to help their cause? Everybody on the planet would know it was Ukraine.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
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Sorry, fixed.

Abrams tank killer:
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Congratulations to "Kolovrat" and his guys on a successful hunt for the Abrams. This brave warrior is a UAV platoon commander.
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You know I was watching a Russian streamer called Iron_Sultan on twitch and he showed some videos of troops on the front. There was some guy in an active warzone with bullets flying and shells falling all around in a ruined building filming himself and saying that he was extremely happy and had the best job in the world. How do people attain this sort of psychological state? It's clear he's a battle-hardened vet but how can a man get used to such an environment, let alone enjoy what he's doing there? I feel like so many Russian volunteers clearly aren't motivated by money. What else can compel a man to put his life in danger and still be so happy and unperturbed? Is it ideology? Religion? What's keeping these troops going? I'm perplexed and I've spent two years in the army and I feel nothing there can prepare you for an actual conflict since you know you're not in danger.
 
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fanofdodo0w0 said:
I feel like so many Russian volunteers clearly aren't motivated by money. What else can compel a man to put his life in danger and still be so happy and unperturbed? Is it ideology? Religion? What's keeping these troops going? I'm perplexed and I've spent two years in the army and I feel nothing there can prepare you for an actual conflict since you know you're not in danger.
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You're homeland is in mortal danger once again. That's a motivation.
 
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SaidNoOneEver said:
Speculation is those are the only deaths Ukraine is paying survivor's benefits for. All the others are just "missing" because they don't have the funds to pay the families.
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Correction. About 90.000 missing and 50-60.000 whose dead status is being processed but haven’t been confirmed yet.

The 30.000 dead are the ones who have been processed and benefits paid for.

So technically Z man wasn’t lying.

(You can add a bunch of others to the 180-200.000; since Ukrainian commanders are incentivized not to report people as dead or missing. That way they can sell their rations on the black market.)

fanofdodo0w0 said:
You know I was watching a Russian streamer called Iron_Sultan on twitch and he showed some videos of troops on the front. There was some guy in an active warzone with bullets flying and shells falling all around in a ruined building filming himself and saying that he was extremely happy and had the best job in the world. How do people attain this sort of psychological state? It's clear he's a battle-hardened vet but how can a man get used to such an environment, let alone enjoy what he's doing there? I feel like so many Russian volunteers clearly aren't motivated by money. What else can compel a man to put his life in danger and still be so happy and unperturbed? Is it ideology? Religion? What's keeping these troops going? I'm perplexed and I've spent two years in the army and I feel nothing there can prepare you for an actual conflict since you know you're not in danger.
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Comradeship? Fighting for a cause? Fighting for a country that doesn’t totally fuck you over? The love you feel from the old people you have liberated who come crying out of your basements to hug you?

Must be Putler brainwashing.
 
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Napoleon III said:
Other really notable thing is that the Russians seem to have been pushed back from Robotyne. Don't know why this keeps happening.
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What I've heard is that there is very little of the village standing and not much cover. So while the Russians were willing to attack into it and somewhat clear it out, they were not willing to expose troops in trying to hold it continuously.
So the Russians are entrenched to the south of the village and the Ukrainians are entrenched in the northern part of the village. The area in the middle being a fluid no-mans-land now.

There could have also been a Ukrainian counterattack that drove the Russians out of the center of the village. But there has been no video presented of that happened.

There was either a unilateral Russian withdrawal from the village center or the Ukrainians counterattacked from the north and drove them out. No definitive evidence either way though.
 
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Fapcop said:
Comradeship? Fighting for a cause? Fighting for a country that doesn’t totally fuck you over? The love you feel from the old people you have liberated who come crying out of your basements to hug you?

Must be Putler brainwashing.
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Really tough for me to understand these things. You see, I'm definitely not saying these fellas were brainwashed but having never had to care about causes or the state of my country due to a very privileged family background I'm probably very far removed from these ideas. I can understand liberating the oppressed it's just I you know, you only get to see that when you're there. Big respect to those who would take the first step to joining the military, I was just a shitty conscript so I didn't understand the motivation. I try to imagine but I don't see myself willing to do it for any cause. Maybe I've just been too sheltered.
 
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fanofdodo0w0 said:
Really tough for me to understand these things. You see, I'm definitely not saying these fellas were brainwashed but having never had to care about causes or the state of my country due to a very privileged family background I'm probably very far removed from these ideas. I can understand liberating the oppressed it's just I you know, you only get to see that when you're there. Big respect to those who would take the first step to joining the military, I was just a shitty conscript so I didn't understand the motivation. I try to imagine but I don't see myself willing to do it for any cause. Maybe I've just been too sheltered.
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Two years as a conscript. i would think would remove negative side effects of a privilege background. Not to mention giving a shit. What country are you from btw ?
 
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Homo neanderthalensis said:
Tucker Carlson pushing around Russian shopping carts with 10 rubels in them must be so damaging to the NeoBandera regime, that they paid $4000 to some dude duct taping a Nokia phone to a black box.
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you can't deny the interview helped push the "We have our own problems at home that need those ukrop funds" narrative.

fanofdodo0w0 said:
Really tough for me to understand these things. You see, I'm definitely not saying these fellas were brainwashed but having never had to care about causes or the state of my country due to a very privileged family background I'm probably very far removed from these ideas. I can understand liberating the oppressed it's just I you know, you only get to see that when you're there. Big respect to those who would take the first step to joining the military, I was just a shitty conscript so I didn't understand the motivation. I try to imagine but I don't see myself willing to do it for any cause. Maybe I've just been too sheltered.
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some guys don't want to be an office drone or work menial service jobs or factory jobs. for those fellows, the battlefield is going to be a blast.
 
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