Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Mister Dongs]

In a rare reversal of fortune, the Comicsgate Kings (well, Shane anyway) have generously decided to reassure the slum people by sending them an invite to go on a 'Post KANGZ' show. TJ has spent 45 minutes regaling the people with graphic retellings of live zoophilia perfomances he viewed in his youth, while Finatra has livestreamed himself on mute playing with a bass guitar in squalor. The chat is in open revolt at having to listen to this and has been bleeding live viewers but since it was a Shane Davis stream nothing of real value was lost. Sometimes restoring the peace in CG isn't easy.

 

[Stupor Mario]

I've been negative towards Az and FNT and all that crew before in this very thread. And while I still hold they are all dumb morons who just sit around complaining about the thing they continue to support by which they can then complain about, at least they do it effectively and are entertaining in small bursts a time or at least get on guests who are entertaining, comic legacy guests like Nolan and Dixon and others.
I'm not here to simp or white knight for anybody.

That's totally fine. People should be free to like or dislike anybody. I like some streamers that people here hate, but I'm not here to simp or white knight for anybody.

The major difference between streamers like the FNT people or the Drinker and guys like EVS is that the former are up front about who they are and what they offer while the latter are hypocritical frauds and people who offer false promises of goods and services they take money for but do not deliver as promised. The later are also narcissistic clowns.

With FNT/Drinker what you see is what you get. You either enjoy their streams or you don't. You either agree with some of their opinions or you don't. But there's no fraud or false promises involved. You can superchat or buy merch if you want, but it's not required. The vast majority of what they have to offer is free.

EVS bilks people out of money for products undelivered. He pretended to be about free speech and free enterprise while simultaneously trying to whip up e-mobs to interfere with and destroy creators he's jealous of. (People like FNT/Drinker never interfere with creators, never try and sabotage or cancel creators.) He's a bully and conceited failure at comics publishing.

I don't subscribe to the retarded "gotcha" of "why don't YOU make something before you criticise it!" They are entertainment reviewers and pop culture reporters you fat retard

EVS will try and justify his own hypocrisy with whatever tortured illogic pops into his head. He actually thinks he gets to set the rules about what people are and aren't allowed to do, because he's used to being the petty dictator of the third world country that is CG. Of course his reasoning is as completely arbitrary as it is retarded. You don't have to be a ComicsGate King anointed by EVS to have the permission to criticize pop culture. And, as you pointed out, some of these people have created things (and actually produced and delivered them to customers). Drinker just released a trailer for an indie film he produced. Gary from Nerdrotic is releasing a memoir some time this year.

 

[Grunka Lunka]

If I'm recalling correctly, PTP was going to do a collected, or omnibus edition of Keown's original "Pitt" works.

Keown backed out of the project at the last minute amid much drama. Drama spawned more drama, and then EVS stepped in and said it would be better to do a smaller campaign prior to an omnibus project as it would allow for a smaller, but faster, payout for Keown while also building a working relationship between EVS and Keown.

Ah, OK.

On a different subject: I remember hearing back a few weeks ago that EVS was in the process of moving out of one of his two warehouse spaces as the lease was expiring. Is it possible that the reason that we haven't seen movement on some of the campaigns still awaiting printing (the Pitt posters and the Snowman book) is that EVS simply doesn't the have space to accept delivery? Not to mention the manpower needs for fulfilling more campaigns in parallel. He could be deliberately delaying printing until the stoners he's got packing boxes get caught up on what's already taking up shelf space.

I believe I recall reading somewhere that was supposed to happen in January. But I don't really know how he can. Those toys have to be taking up massive real estate and the talk is that he's still in the red on those, so he has to have a lot left over still waiting to get sold. Made worse if he actually does follow through with that Rainbow Brute toy.

But...not having enough room does sound like a good possibility.

And it was probably a joke. But I recall seeing a screenshot of a tweet where EVS was asking Eric if he could store some stuff at Eric's warehouse shortly before the Isom 2 campaign.


And here we go...

Unfortunately, had to step away and Ethan's part was deleted before I could archive it.



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[Fascist Kirk]

More of Vito's Kid Fucking apologetics. From Vito's Thread https://kiwifarms.st/threads/christ...to-vito-the-pedo.171349/page-62#post-17818916

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Doing his best digital impersonation of this to try defend illicit content involving literal children under the guise of "muh mentals" I see.
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Greasy fucking faggot.

Ethan this mother fucker is the future of comicsgate? you fucked up and I say this sincerely I pray to god your autistic daughter doesn't run away from home get passed around by the sector, and turned into an E-hor Like mint Tossed Salad.

@FROG just jokes bro.

 

[Strix454]

How would I know? He has 10 employees not including warehouse workers. I don't think they're working for free. Ethan has 3 teenage kids who pack boxes. Plus EJ blocked a ton of his customers on twitter because he can't handle simple questions about what his next books are about and his views are way down on YT.

Ethan Van Sciver also has a ton of customers blocked on his twitter as well going back years. So does everyone else in comicsgate. Why are Eric July's twitter blocks bad while Ethan Van Sciver's twitter blocks are good?

 

[Nick Kerrs]

Bahr vs malin https://x.com/mattbahr6/status/1762130233686217014?s=46

 

[Grunka Lunka]

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[Fleetwood]

It's all out war across factions, fucking awesome
How does Matt Bahr keep getting away with this!
The Wheelers posted this gem:

Must watch with captions on :

Spoiler: archive & transcript

Why are you attacking everyone Matt
Don't you know Vito and Mint Salad are comicsgate now?
You cant cost me that many people!
If you ban people they will start to turn on us.
You are also causing problems with Dick and Riley
I don't care about those people.
All of those people hate me for no reason
But you said they were pedos and that they did incest porn.
We all saw it.
We all saw it Matt.
You did it and doubled down on it.
But they are all cunts.
I said they were pedos and I stand by it.
Then he said he was going
to come to my house
and rape me! I will
not allow some fat
frog man to dictate
what i can or can not
say online! How dare your
Sir please calm down
Shut up you fuckingn ni**er
Matt your going to get kicked out of comicsgate
you think i give a shit? I don't!
I have no cyberfrog shit
anywhere in my house. His fat ass has never
has been in a real fight in his life!
He is soft and weak!
I will take over comicsgate
and everyone will follow me
If i cant be on his stream,
then I will go back to the Slums!
The Slums. Yes that's it...
Ill go back to the Slums and
I will make them love me.
I will take over from the
bottom up. The same way
EVS has liked his dick
in my mouth all these
years. The bottom up! All you have to do is
cup the nuts!
He's right you know I saw him do it to Wiggle.
After all these years
and all the times I have
supported EVS.
He does this to me
All I have to do is bide my
time and then after a while he will
take me back.

 

[Fascist Kirk (ShavedAnus)]

And after the fire laid waste to the to the grift, children could read there manga safely.
The Frog cult, the child predators, the 50 year old comic reading neck beards are gone, all is right in the world nothing of value was lost.

 

[motts337]

Well then don't give him your money I guess. Personally I think he can afford it with the several million dollars he's already raised and track record so far.

Anyway how is any of this your or EVS's business again? Are you trying to save his customers from themselves? How is what Eric July doing damaging you? How is it damaging EVS? Remember all the SJW's who tried to save EVS' customers from themselves this same way back when he first started and how well that went over? He proved those people right of course but that's beside the point. July's customers are actually getting the products they paid for and on time. This anti-July crusade is just weird.

Were you around when Malin tried to start his own CG fulfillment service where CG'ers would have their books shipped from the printer directly to his warehouse where his employees would fulfill their project for them? That failed miserably. Maybe you could've warned people about that.

Well then don't give him your money I guess. Personally I think he can afford it with the several million dollars he's already raised and track record so far.

Anyway how is any of this your or EVS's business again? Are you trying to save his customers from themselves? How is what Eric July doing damaging you? How is it damaging EVS? Remember all the SJW's who tried to save EVS' customers from themselves this same way back when he first started and how well that went over? He proved those people right of course but that's beside the point. July's customers are actually getting the products they paid for and on time. This anti-July crusade is just weird.

Were you around when Malin tried to start his own CG fulfillment service where CG'ers would have their books shipped from the printer directly to his warehouse where his employees would fulfill their project for them? That failed miserably. Maybe you could've warned people about that.

The reason I'm concerned is because

His Views are way down I tuned into a For Cannons sake the other day and he had 400 viewers. He seems to be changing his format going forward, I really could care less if he succeeds or fails. I do care that the customers get the product they paid for in less time it takes the earth to orbit around the Sun.

July has been doing this for what a year and a half maybe 2 years? those employees can be fired, furlowed, at any time maybe you never have had a job or ran a company before. Workers are not wards of the estate. You sperg allot against Eric July, how did you feel about the Hairy Niglet 2 years ago same amount of spite? draw a stick figure and on the picture point to where Eric July touched you.

First off I'm not sperging but it's obvious you don't understand how the collectors market works. I listened to EJ a few years back but I half paid attention because I'd be eating lunch or getting ready for work. Once I fully paid attention I realized he just uses word salad and he would debate people from Twitter only if they were the soyest of the soy who sounded like they were transitioning. He'd hang up on them if they made a good point.. Yes I've run businesses before otherwise I wouldn't open my mouth unlike most on here who just make shit up off the top of their heads. It doesn't matter how long or short he's been doing this comic thing because he needed to learn how the market worked before he started. Yes he gets his books out on time but he's overcharging for everything and he's devalued all of his products by overprinting, doing multiple print runs and discounting his products. Meanwhile people are paying memberships to get discounts and first dibs. In short his books have 0 value because there's too many of them. It's too late for him to learn that.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

In short his books have 0 value because there's too many of them. It's too late for him to learn that.

EVS wayyyy overprinted CF1, that's why he's still got plenty for sale on eBay. He bragged about printing multiple times the number ordered so that he could sell them in perpetuity. There are also a half-dozen variants of each. He also bragged that people like you paid the costs for him to do it. That was his business model, the future of comics, etc. He was very proud of that.

Take a look: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051115970

Take a look at his whole store: https://www.ebay.com/usr/cyberfrog9

The only thing Eric July needed to learn from EVS was what NOT to do. He seems to have done that very well.

 

[motts337]

Ethan Van Sciver also has a ton of customers blocked on his twitter as well going back years. So does everyone else in comicsgate. Why are Eric July's twitter blocks bad while Ethan Van Sciver's twitter blocks are good?

Because people asked EJ for details about his comic characters. His 1st 2 books weren't even drawn. His artist just plopped 3d models onto the page and didn't draw anything. Eric had interviews and videos lying about it then tried to say that every artist does that and misquoted Neal fucking Adams and Alex Ross. So people paid 35 to hundreds of dollars on a book full of shit stolen from sketch up.

 

[motts337]

EVS wayyyy overprinted CF1, that's why he's still got plenty for sale on eBay. He bragged about printing multiple times the number ordered so that he could sell them in perpetuity. He also bragged that people like you paid the costs for him to do it. That was his business model, the future of comics, etc. He was very proud of that.

Take a look: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051115970

Take a look at his whole store: https://www.ebay.com/usr/cyberfrog9

The only thing Eric July needed to learn from EVS was what NOT to do. He seems to have done that very well.

That's not the same thing. When you do a first printing of course you print more because you have to account for damages and things like that and you can overprint to an extent. Once you print again that second printing isn't worth as much as the first. EJ is overprinting by the thousands and doing it multiple times. The links you just showed me are variant covers and a few different books. Not the same thing at all.

 

[Fleetwood]

Because people asked EJ for details about his comic characters. His 1st 2 books weren't even drawn. His artist just plopped 3d models onto the page and didn't draw anything. Eric had interviews and videos lying about it then tried to say that every artist does that and misquoted Neal fucking Adams and Alex Ross. So people paid 35 to hundreds of dollars on a book full of shit stolen from sketch up.

We already know from like last year. Now a lot of the people who are streaming about Eric have gone way beyond crazy and are in an all out multiple front Comicsgate civil war. Get with the program. We movin' differently and we don't double post here

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

That's not the same thing. When you do a first printing of course you print more because you have to account for damages and things like that and you can overprint to an extent. Once you print again that second printing isn't worth as much as the first. EJ is overprinting by the thousands and doing it multiple times. The links you just showed me are variant covers and a few different books. Not the same thing at all.

This is hilarious. July is already having to do 2nd and 3rd printings because demand has far exceeded all expectations. And you argue that's a bad thing. EVS has never done a second printing of anything because when people realized he's a lazy fraud who can't keep any promises demand collapsed. That's why he's a bloodsports Youtuber now instead of an artist.

If there is any future collector value in July's stuff it will be those scarce 1st printings. EVS will never have that problem because he still has warehouse(s) full of "1st printings" that you paid for. There is no scarcity in EVS' 1st printings because of his business model of overprinting those from the jump.

 

[motts337]

Not-Malin frogguarding again. He’s paying other people for art direction?? Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha what BULLSHIT!
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I mean he’s blatantly using AI to do his Trashcast title cards. “Art director” is a euphemism for Midjourney I haven’t heard before.

Wow you're retarded. I'm talking about EJ. He has 2 art directors, a marketing director, a financial operations manager, a customer relations manager, a video asset manager, an operations manager, a video editor and graphic designer, an executive assistant , a concept artist, a community manager, a creative manager and a lead artist and illustrator on top of paying the artist that draws the book, inkers, colorists and writers. That money is gonna go quick with that much overhead

 

[motts337]

No.

This is hilarious. July is already having to do 2nd and 3rd printings because demand has far exceeded all expectations. And you argue that's a bad thing. EVS has never done a second printing of anything because when people realized he's a lazy fraud who can't keep any promises demand collapsed. That's why he's a bloodsports Youtuber now instead of an artist.

If there is any future collector value in July's stuff it will be those scarce 1st printings. EVS will never have that problem because he still has warehouse(s) full of "1st printings" that you paid for. There is no scarcity in EVS' 1st printings because of his business model of overprinting those from the jump.

No. You you've got it backwards. Doing second and third printings devalues the 1st. He shouldn't have printed anything until he knew how much to print in the 1st place.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

No. You you've got it backwards. Doing second and third printings devalues the 1st. He shouldn't have printed anything until he knew how much to print in the 1st place.

You truly have no idea what you're talking about. Scarcity determines value in a collectibles market. I don't even think July wants his product to be considered a collectible, he just wants to sell his product to as many people as possible. Producing a bunch of product that you then have pay to warehouse forever because nobody wants it is bad, as EVS has learned the hard way.

 

[motts337]

You truly have no idea what you're talking about. Scarcity determines value in a collectibles market. I don't even think July wants his product to be considered a collectible, he just wants to sell his product to as many people as possible. Producing a bunch of product that you then have pay to warehouse forever because nobody wants it is bad, as EVS has learned the hard way.

You're telling me I have no idea while proving my point.

 

[Strix454]

Because people asked EJ for details about his comic characters. His 1st 2 books weren't even drawn. His artist just plopped 3d models onto the page and didn't draw anything. Eric had interviews and videos lying about it then tried to say that every artist does that and misquoted Neal fucking Adams and Alex Ross. So people paid 35 to hundreds of dollars on a book full of shit stolen from sketch up.

The question was

"Ethan Van Sciver also has a ton of customers blocked on his twitter as well going back years. So does everyone else in comicsgate. Why are Eric July's twitter blocks bad while Ethan Van Sciver's twitter blocks are good? "

You didn't answer the question. You just threw up more random complaints about ISOM.

Can you explain why you refuse to answer that question?