US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Betonhaus]

Damn bro did I hit a nerve? lol

He's unable to accept that Britan is a sad has-been that needs to steal the glory of people who don't associate themselves with that nation.

 

[Seedling]

Its a bit sillier than that. The ideologues have orders from upstairs to do anything they can to obstruct Trump. Yet, most know that what they can do has no hope of actually lasting so what they are doing is basically going "See, I did as I should" while also covering their own asses by making sure it won't hurt them.

So is nobody concerned with long term planning anymore?
Are they just driving for the cliff on automatic at this point?

 

[Night Crawler]

Anyone see the uncommitted total in the Dem primary in Michigan? A little over 100,000 people decided to not vote for Biden. Add that total in with the Dems who voted for Nikki Haley and that's quite a lot of votes Biden will be short on in November. Michigan was another open primary so that means Dems voted for Haley to weaken Trump. The (((media))) kept talking about how Trump didn't get 70% of the vote in a two person race. Not that it matters but it only happened because Dems voted for Haley. If the street shitting curry nigger wahmen hadn't had her vote total artificially inflated with cross over Dems Trump would have probably gotten over 70% of the vote total. We don't have the numbers for michigan but we can usethe streets shitters vote percentages from NH and SC. In NH about 70% of her voted were from Dems. In SC about 48-50% were from Dems. So, in Michigan about 50-70% of her votes were from Dems. These people are most likely not going to vote for Biden in November. They just want to be part of the political process and hurt the bad orange man. If you add in the number of cross over Dems that voted for Haley in MI with the uncommitted vote in the MI Dem primary that's a lot of votes Biden won't be getting. Seeing as he only "won" MI by a few thousand it's not looking good. They won't have enough fake ballots if they try that again. lol

https://youtu.be/Ap8b1Uv0yU0

 

[babadook]

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https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1762381067174986233

I'll quote myself on this, again

Crozza is a slimy partisan shill comparable to Jon Stewart or Colbert, don't get swayed by 1 (one) instance of mockery towards the Good Guys™ side.

The establishment's cocksleeve does so only because the corpse king cannot be defended anymore

 

[Disc]

Anyone see the uncommitted total in the Dem primary in Michigan? A little over 100,000 people decided to not vote for Biden. Add that total in with the Dems who voted for Nikki Haley and that's quite a lot of votes Biden will be short on in November. Michigan was another open primary so that means Dems voted for Haley to weaken Trump. The (((media))) kept talking about how Trump didn't get 70% of the vote in a two person race. Not that it matters but it only happened because Dems voted for Haley. If the street shitting curry nigger wahmen hadn't had her vote total artificially inflated with cross over Dems Trump would have probably gotten over 70% of the vote total. We don't have the numbers for michigan but we can usethe streets shitters vote percentages from NH and SC. In NH about 70% of her voted were from Dems. In SC about 48-50% were from Dems. So, in Michigan about 50-70% of her votes were from Dems. These people are most likely not going to vote for Biden in November. They just want to be part of the political process and hurt the bad orange man. If you add in the number of cross over Dems that voted for Haley in MI with the uncommitted vote in the MI Dem primary that's a lot of votes Biden won't be getting. Seeing as he only "won" MI by a few thousand it's not looking good. They won't have enough fake ballots if they try that again. lol

https://youtu.be/Ap8b1Uv0yU0

Astounding confidence that these people will not vote for biden. The idea that the people voting for haley will ultimately switch for biden has been the long-standing argument for haley never having had a chance.

 

[Gehenna]

So is nobody concerned with long term planning anymore?
Are they just driving for the cliff on automatic at this point?

We are at the "Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" stage. They are not confident in their fraud machine. That's not to soya it won't work just that there are some severe issues with it this time around, not least that everyone's expecting it. MAGA populism has gotten large enough with enough momentums and control of the levers of power that the Uniparty cannot be relied upon to throw it effectively and again now people are aware of it. They cannot rely on a new coof strain, or ANTIFA riots, or any other tactics because those were largely single use expandable tactics.

Its not that these are totally off the table, its that all of them have been severely undermined. They are not confident in any tactics so they are throwing shit at the wall in the hopes of finding something, anything, to help aid their ailing machine.

its quite interesting, and its why I am not totally saying that the next election is lost. It will be quite interesting to see which wins out, MAGA Momentum or the Diseased Machine. At this points its anyones guess.

 

[Night Crawler]

Astounding confidence that these people will not vote for biden. The idea that the people voting for haley will ultimately switch for biden has been the long-standing argument for haley never having had a chance.

There is only one reason to vote for Haley and that's to fuck with Trump. It would be better just to wait for November and really hurt Trump by voting for Biden. These people aren't going to vote twice. They are voting for Haley because they don't plan on voting for Biden. Otherwise, they would just wait till November and vote for Biden.

 

[northstar747]

MAGA populism has gotten large enough with enough momentums and control of the levers of power that the Uniparty cannot be relied upon to throw it effectively and again now people are aware of it

I know you have no crystal ball and you is retired.

But has the left bought the Trump is bad with out the concept of Trump is a symptom not the diease and in order for them to get and retain power they need to bleed a % of the populist and centrist off.

Like how does a cross dressing tranny running health and nuclear power along with homo secretary of transport, and a fucking brown woman VP, fight populism?

Who the fuck votes for leaders that will openly support people saying "fuck white people" "fuck men" "fuck women" etc?

 

[Disc]

There is only one reason to vote for Haley and that's to fuck with Trump. It would be better just to wait for November and really hurt Trump by voting for Biden. These people aren't going to vote twice. They are voting for Haley because they don't plan on voting for Biden. Otherwise, they would just wait till November and vote for Biden.

You know that voting for a republican in the primary doesn't preclude voting for a democrat in the election? these people are voting for haley to stop trump. sure, some of them will switch to voting for trump because they're actually republicans, and they prefer him over the ghoul-in-chief but still want a 'polite' republican.

But a lot will switch to voting for biden because stopping trump is more important than a republican winning. more people vote in the actual election than in the primary, and the primary voters tend to be the most passionate. it's not like they'll all suddenly be fine with trump if he wins the nom. If you treat trump as half of the existential threat these people say he is, they are far, far more likely to vote against him twice, than vote against him once during the primaries and just give up.

 

[Vic Smackey]

You know that voting for a republican in the primary doesn't preclude voting for a democrat in the election? these people are voting for haley to stop trump. sure, some of them will switch to voting for trump because they're actually republicans, and they prefer him over the ghoul-in-chief but still want a 'polite' republican.

I don't agree with Night Crawler about them not voting Biden but think you're missing one important fact about 30-60% of Haley voters. They aren't republicans period. Why Nikki got blown out in Michigan by 42 points was because Biden was on the ballot, whilst in New Hampshire and South Carolina he wasn't (on the same day). There are some "Never Trump" republicans in there who will either sit out November or vote Biden, but they either voted blue or sat out 16 and 20. Out of the rest of her voters there is a very slim minority who will vote Trump in November. Even Desantis's supporters mostly went back to Trump.

What Nikki Haley has decided to do is become a Democrat. A plurality if not most of her votes in the primary come from democrats and democrat leaning independents. Her talking points are democrat and come June or whenever the primary officially comes to an end she will endorse Joe Biden. If by some miracle the RNC boots trump off the ballot, then she will run a presidential campaign to lose and "retire" from politics to resurface later as a democrat (like Krist).

It's dishonest and pathetic really.

 

[chiobu]

Did she think that Biden having to take a cognitive test every day was a good look?

https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1762988931975704774 (Archive)

 

[teriyakiburns]

But has the left bought the Trump is bad with out the concept of Trump is a symptom not the diease

Anecdotally, this is what I see among the lefty circles I still move in. They don't understand why people voted for trump in the first place; they can't accept that their sneering disgust for anyone who differs from them on any topic is the cause of all their problems.

I can't speak to what the leadership believes, but the followers are celebrating the overturning of law and the system to own the bad man. Even hinting that maybe the preservation of the rule of law is preferable to breaking everything to get the baddies is enough to see you ostracised from their groups. They're literally at the "destroy the village to save it" point and they think it's justified.

 

[The Ugly One]

I get what they're doing. The only problem is, they're not convincing anyone but the party faithful. Everyone else is looking at this lunacy and, even if they think Trump is not the greatest guy in the world, it's odd that they're charging him, and practically convicting him with insurrection, while at the same time, watching him walk around free all over the place.

It just looks more and more unhinged as time goes on.

The entire argument hinges on, without stating out loud, that Trump doesn't need to actually be tried and convicted for insurrection. It's just obvious that he did it, like how global boiling is obvious, or that lockdowns worked, or that letting niggers burn down Target saves lives. And the reason we know he committed insurrection is that the election was obviously not rigged, something that also doesn't need to be argued in court because of how obvious it was.

There is only one reason to vote for Haley and that's to fuck with Trump. It would be better just to wait for November and really hurt Trump by voting for Biden. These people aren't going to vote twice. They are voting for Haley because they don't plan on voting for Biden. Otherwise, they would just wait till November and vote for Biden.

Anyone who cares enough about politics to go vote in the other party's primary to try and sabotage it, is the sort of politics-addicted nutjob who absolutely is going to vote in November.

And yet, who now runs Vietnam? Who slinked away in failure?

The issue isn't who won, it's how they won. Claiming Vietnam won because they "ground US forces to dust" is like claiming the Colts won the 2009 Super Bowl because the hapless Bears defense couldn't stop Peyton Manning from scoring touchdowns at will.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

US KIA: 58,000
NVA + VC KIA: 1,100,000

The US didn't lose because superior Soviet weapons ground our pathetic forces to dust, because that didn't happen.

I get that communism is evil and genocidal but the US federal government is also evil and genocidal. Those KIA figures also include entire villages that the fed napalmed and pretended were VC bases. I’d argue that one reason Russia is taking more losses is because of their unwillingness to wipe entire communities off the map.

 

[Night Crawler]

I just saw this on YouTube. Lauren Boebert's son has been out committing crimes like a nigger. 2 dozen of them and multiple felonies. This wahmen is really turning into a real mess. Kind of reminds of Sarah Palin when her life started to fall apart. Divorced acting like a teenager in a movie theater with her boyfriend kids acting like niggers. MAGA isn't sending their best it seems. No one cares if you want to act like trash. But if you hold a position of power you have to know how to behave. Women shouldn't be allowed in to hold important positions.

https://youtu.be/sPDVmpPjjZU

You know that voting for a republican in the primary doesn't preclude voting for a democrat in the election? these people are voting for haley to stop trump. sure, some of them will switch to voting for trump because they're actually republicans, and they prefer him over the ghoul-in-chief but still want a 'polite' republican.

But a lot will switch to voting for biden because stopping trump is more important than a republican winning. more people vote in the actual election than in the primary, and the primary voters tend to be the most passionate. it's not like they'll all suddenly be fine with trump if he wins the nom. If you treat trump as half of the existential threat these people say he is, they are far, far more likely to vote against him twice, than vote against him once during the primaries and just give up.

I know how primaries and elections work. Here is the thing with that. Them voting for Nikki Haley hasn't stopped Trump or even hurt him. There has to be some other motivation for them to keep doing it. The only motivation that can be is to stick it to the bad orange man because they don't plan to vote for Biden in November. If they wanted to stop Trump they would just stay home and wait to do it in November. That's how you stop Trump. Not by voting for Nikki Haley.

I don't agree with Night Crawler about them not voting Biden but think you're missing one important fact about 30-60% of Haley voters. They aren't republicans period. Why Nikki got blown out in Michigan by 42 points was because Biden was on the ballot, whilst in New Hampshire and South Carolina he wasn't (on the same day). There are some "Never Trump" republicans in there who will either sit out November or vote Biden, but they either voted blue or sat out 16 and 20. Out of the rest of her voters there is a very slim minority who will vote Trump in November. Even Desantis's supporters mostly went back to Trump.

What Nikki Haley has decided to do is become a Democrat. A plurality if not most of her votes in the primary come from democrats and democrat leaning independents. Her talking points are democrat and come June or whenever the primary officially comes to an end she will endorse Joe Biden. If by some miracle the RNC boots trump off the ballot, then she will run a presidential campaign to lose and "retire" from politics to resurface later as a democrat (like Krist).

It's dishonest and pathetic really.

That's not going to happen. Ronna McDaniels has resigned. Trump is going to fill the RNC with people that are loyal to him. The chances of anything screwy happening at the convention is very small.

The entire argument hinges on, without stating out loud, that Trump doesn't need to actually be tried and convicted for insurrection. It's just obvious that he did it, like how global boiling is obvious, or that lockdowns worked, or that letting niggers burn down Target saves lives. And the reason we know he committed insurrection is that the election was obviously not rigged, something that also doesn't need to be argued in court because of how obvious it was.



Anyone who cares enough about politics to go vote in the other party's primary to try and sabotage it, is the sort of politics-addicted nutjob who absolutely is going to vote in November.



The issue isn't who won, it's how they won. Claiming Vietnam won because they "ground US forces to dust" is like claiming the Colts won the 2009 Super Bowl because the hapless Bears defense couldn't stop Peyton Manning from scoring touchdowns at will.

Like I explained above. There is only one way to stop Trump and that's to vote for Biden. Democrats have been voting for Nikki Haley since NH. In every open primary they have voted for her. It has done nothing to hurt Trump or stop him. Yes, they are politics addicted nutjobs. Which is why they are going out and voting for Haley. They want to take part in the political process because they know they aren't going to be voting in November. They don't plan to vote for Biden. The only way they can stick it to Cheeto Hitler is by voting for Haley because they know they are staying home. It's the hate for Trump that drives them. They hate Biden as well.

 

[The Ugly One]

Those KIA figures also include entire villages that the fed napalmed and pretended were VC bases.

Those are KIA figures from the Vietnamese government in 1995. They claim 1.1 million soldiers, 2 million civilians. Various estimates put North Vietnamese combat deaths anywhere between 500K and 1.4 million. Nobody, even the most biased Communist pseudohistorian, claims the Vietnamese did any better than taking 10 deaths for every 1 they managed to inflict.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

The issue isn't who won, it's how they won. Claiming Vietnam won because they "ground US forces to dust" is like claiming the Colts won the 2009 Super Bowl because the hapless Bears defense couldn't stop Peyton Manning from scoring touchdowns at will.

The United States under Nixon did won the Vietnam War as the victory objective was South Vietnam still existed and noncommunist as per the Paris Peace Accords. Except the democrats had to snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by cutting support to South Vietnam. Que two years later with South Vietnam out of ammunition and parts, there wasn't much to they can do to stopped North Vietnam from rolling in. Who later massacred over two million unrededucatable noncommunist South Vietnamese.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Doc dump incoming?

Hackers threaten to release Trump documents from Georgia case if they don't get a ransom by Thursday

In a message posted online Saturday, in both English and Russian, the hacking group called LockBit said the stolen documents "contain a lot of interesting things and Donald Trump's court cases that could affect the upcoming US election."

Initially, LockBit set a Saturday, March 2, deadline for the payment, according to the cybersecurity reporter Christopher Krebs.

It has since moved up that deadline to 8:49 a.m. ET on Thursday, February 29, LockBit's restored website shows.

Edit: Stages of LockBit Grief: Anger, Denial, Faking Resurrection? (archive)
New ransomware deadline comes and goes for Fulton County hack (archive)

Timer has disappeared from their website, no docs seen yet.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

I get that communism is evil and genocidal but the US federal government is also evil and genocidal. Those KIA figures also include entire villages that the fed napalmed and pretended were VC bases. I’d argue that one reason Russia is taking more losses is because of their unwillingness to wipe entire communities off the map.

Oh god. How do paint chips taste?

 

[Gehenna]

I know you have no crystal ball and you is retired.

But has the left bought the Trump is bad with out the concept of Trump is a symptom not the diease and in order for them to get and retain power they need to bleed a % of the populist and centrist off.

Like how does a cross dressing tranny running health and nuclear power along with homo secretary of transport, and a fucking brown woman VP, fight populism?

Who the fuck votes for leaders that will openly support people saying "fuck white people" "fuck men" "fuck women" etc?

That really depends on how you define "the left". If you define it as anyone left of center than the left as a whole is coming to a dawning, horrible realization that many on "their side" have gone too far into insanity and evil. Reflected in the growing center and the rampant voter depression.

But, I think when you say "the left" you personally and this thread as a whole mean the hardened rabid left that makes up about a fifth of the voting population. They are a lost cause.

They seem to have no real understanding or grasp of the underlying problems that created Trump. They seem to believe that the future they want is perfect and utopian therefore any attempt to disagree with it ,or worse resist it, is out of evil.