Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

[AnOminous]

Gawt dang...they do say dogs often look like their owners but this shit is uncanny.

These dudes fucked those dogs didn't they?

 

[Less Nasty Old Person]

That first one looks like George Floyd. I'll probably go to hell for this.

 

[James done did it]

late and necro: just found out brian barczyk, the snake and reptile breeding equivalent of the niggers that breed froglines with no legs, has died from stage 4 cancer. you love to see it

Brian was just one of many, many, many people in that community and he was far from the worst actor. He was starting to provide bigger enclosures and was responsive to criticism and eventually got honest about it as he started keeping balls and other snakes in larger display enclosures in his zoo. Still a racknigger mass breeding snakes in service of the skeem though, but he might have reformed if he lived a little longer.

Kevin McCurley is the one big player/personality in the scene who continues to argue that putting a snake in a tiny box is better care than giving it a naturalistic enclosure that would still be only 10-15% of the size of its natural, wild range. The justification for this is that they breed and eat better. Which the obvious response to that is yes, if the ONLY opportunities for stimulation an animal receives are opportunities to breed and eat, they will engage in those with more gusto than if they could choose to go for a soak, go climbing, bask, etc. He also does the SKEEM equivalent of trollshielding by going out and beefing with people worse than him on youtube like live feeding channels.

Of course all of the big reptile youtube channels end up nuthugging him and the rest of the skeemers to avoid conflict/drama and maintain access since he has a ton of rare animals in addition to his slammed ball pythons and geckos.

 

[Isaiah Praer]

They will also just straight up lie to your face about the breed of the dog.

“What, of COURSE this isn’t a shovel headed shitbull! It’s a Labrador Retriever! How very dare you!”

According to a local shelter, this is what a Labrador Retriever looks like:

And this, somehow, looks like a Border Collie:
"Latesha, did Timmy drop our stash down the storm drain again?"

 

[Male Idiot]

rescued pitbulls

Why? Are american shelters just that empty of normal dogs like a weiner mix to adopt? Why put yourself in danger?

If this is a case, maybe the west should import dogs from slav shelters. Trust me, I would bet a finger that you are safer and better off with a half poodle half weiner dog "playground mix" .

https://www.tappancs.hu/gazdit-keresunk/orokbefogadhato-kutyak

This is just an example of a basic no kill shelter, but you can get even breed specific shelters.
Yeah the yorkie may be 5 years old, but he will only chew your shoe at worst, not your face. Plus if it is a little dog, you can feed more for the same food price.

I checked and there are groups that rescue stuff like poodles in the US too.

 

[blue gopher snakes]

Why? Are american shelters just that empty of normal dogs like a weiner mix to adopt? Why put yourself in danger?

At least in my area, the shelters are completely overrun with pitbulls and pitbull mixes. They are hilariously misidentified by sympathetic shelter employees looking to pull the wool over the eyes over prospective adopters who they believe generally have unfair bias against the breed. They are the last dumping ground for dogs that should have been euthanized and shouldn’t be treated as a place to find a family companion for most people, in my opinion. A dog’s bite history might not be recorded or disclosed, or euphemistically delivered using cutesy language that hides the true nature of the animal. This is a huge risk.

Nice normal families looking for a dog that won’t eat their children or neighborhood cats should find a reputable breeder after selecting a breed compatible with their lifestyle. There is no shame in finding a nice breeder and buying a golden retriever that has been health-tested and isn’t the product of sibling incest.

Another example of the dogs at a shelter local to me compared to the breed they are claimed to be:

 

[Male Idiot]

The upper left is likely not a pitbull. Just uggly as fuck, but hey its an alarm system that that works with the power off.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

That first one looks like George Floyd. I'll probably go to hell for this.

To be fair, looks he can't breathe either.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Spot on when you said they probably shouldn't be dog owners. 80$ isn't even that much in the grand scheme of shit, like what? two to three big bags of good dog food? Any time I see someone with an unfixed dog they give "uhh... reasons." as to why they won't neuter them, I half expect they might be a furry doing greasy shit to or with the dog.

I see this a lot in the animal adoption groups. People being very interested, then dipping out when they are told that the animal isn't fixed yet - usually because it's not old enough.

Or weirdos being like "NO IT'S CRUEL"

You will never look like a thug carrying around a tiny Frenchie that looks like it's melting.

Or looks like it's blind. Those eyes look horrific. I have the feeling that this urban urchin is gonna be all like "YO IMMA BREED DA BITCH FOR MORE CLOUT. SHIIIIEEEET!"

At least in my area, the shelters are completely overrun with pitbulls and pitbull mixes.

It astounds me that the states haven't outright banned pitbulls yet. At this stage, they almost seem like an invasive species.

One that consequently also eats your children.

Also fuck the people who are like "There are no bad breeds. Just bad owners"

 

[PhoBingas]

I see this a lot in the animal adoption groups. People being very interested, then dipping out when they are told that the animal isn't fixed yet - usually because it's not old enough.

If the animal is super young, I can understand why they're adopting out unfixed pets. I guess people don't want to spend any actual money. Sad people are that dump or cheap.
Also anyone who says "No it's cruel" to neutering or spaying is either a) planning to breed the animal and sell poorly bred and trained pets or b) planning to do something greasy with it.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

If the animal is super young, I can understand why they're adopting out unfixed pets. I guess people don't want to spend any actual money. Sad people are that dump or cheap.

It's recommended, at least here, that the animals are around a year old before you neuter so I get that part. Yet people expect a free pet given to them with everything done for them, from chipping to vaccination to neutering.

They don't want unfixed animals because that would mean they'd have to pay for it themselves - while ignoring the actual recommended age because they want puppies and kittens only, which irritates me. It's going to be your responsibility so put in the damn work and money into taking care of the pet.

Some of the people giving away animals are kinda sketchy too, especially with older animals. Got a two-year-old cat to give away but you never bothered to spay and neuter or chip it because it's gonna be "the new owner's problem" which is a fucked up thing to say.

Same with insurance and registering, which is legally mandatory for dogs.

Also anyone who says "No it's cruel" to neutering or spaying is either a) planning to breed the animal and sell poorly bred and trained pets or b) planning to do something greasy with it.

Or they are lazy cheap people who want to moralfag. Or they are schizos who compare it to circumcision of infants because "the animal didn't consent."

Oh wait, we call these people furries.

 

[Gingervitis]

It astounds me that the states haven't outright banned pitbulls yet. At this stage, they almost seem like an invasive species.

One that consequently also eats your children.

Also fuck the people who are like "There are no bad breeds. Just bad owners"

You don't get it though. Pitbulls are like black people, so banning them is racist.

 

[James done did it]

Why? Are american shelters just that empty of normal dogs like a weiner mix to adopt? Why put yourself in danger?

If this is a case, maybe the west should import dogs from slav shelters. Trust me, I would bet a finger that you are safer and better off with a half poodle half weiner dog "playground mix" .

https://www.tappancs.hu/gazdit-keresunk/orokbefogadhato-kutyak

This is just an example of a basic no kill shelter, but you can get even breed specific shelters.
Yeah the yorkie may be 5 years old, but he will only chew your shoe at worst, not your face. Plus if it is a little dog, you can feed more for the same food price.

I checked and there are groups that rescue stuff like poodles in the US too.

In the US we had a similar issue with tons of strays like you see in Eastern Europe for decades, then sometime in the 70s there was a big push from both the government and some celebrities (most famously Bob Barker, a gameshow host) to get your pets spayed or neutered. It was very successful and now most dog owners neuter their dogs. There is a lot less random breeding or backyard breeding of dogs of the breeds that are typically owned by responsible owners. A lot of professional breeders even require spaying/neutering as part of the sale contract.

This is also why the price of most breeds of dog have skyrocketed. Usually over $1,000 for most common breeds or mixes from a professional breeder, boutique shit goes even higher, french bulldogs which are very popular right now go for upwards of $2,000 which is why you see so many stories of people stealing them. Not that I mind dogs being more expensive, there should be a bigger barrier to entry to discourage impulsive retards from buying animals.

People also whine about shelters being overprotective of their animals but it's in part because we have "people" in this country who used to get animals from shelters to use as bait to train fighting dogs. Of course that entire scene was built around backyard breeding so very few pitbulls were historically neutered, so they've become the main sources of random breeding/pound puppies. Anything that isn't an obvious pitbull or doesn't have obvious behavioral problems generally doesn't stay at a shelter long, so many no-kill shelters end up with a glut of pitbulls that they either have to pawn off on idiots or send to another shelter with more capacity until eventually it gets laundered into a kill shelter and someone does the needful.

 

[DenseDeerFather]

You don't get it though. Pitbulls are like black people, so banning them is racist.

So is the times when pitties mauled some white Karen and her three-year-old an apt representation of black-on-white crime statistics? Or a metaphor for the mentality of ghetto areas?

That aside, I am actually reminded of a few things I did remember coming across when I looked up dig breeds once. Okay so one of the breeds that's banned in my country is the American Staffordshire Terrier or AmStaff for short.

Very pittie-like hence its banning. Well that and the aggresion bred into it due to its use for dog fighting.

Alternatively, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier or Staffy is not banned, despite looking virtually identical appearence-wise and basically having more or less the same history with a lot of foggy details. The difference is the size and apparently temperament. Plus staffies are smaller.

Kinda bullshit because there have been countless stories of this particular breed biting people, chewing up infants, and randomly mauling bicycle riders.

Not surprisingly there are talks of banning this breed in the UK at least well, which could potentially lead to a ripple effect to the rest of Europe.

I think the reason why I bring this up is that shelters are usually very diverse in their breeds. But going to a site with sellers who sell privately, it's staffies fucking everywhere or dogs clearly being staffies but labeled as "mixed breed" or mastiffs or something.

I think this may become our pitbull problem. A rather underground problem.

 

[Luigi Cadorna]

Why? Are american shelters just that empty of normal dogs like a weiner mix to adopt? Why put yourself in danger?

In the US we had a similar issue with tons of strays like you see in Eastern Europe for decades, then sometime in the 70s there was a big push from both the government and some celebrities (most famously Bob Barker, a gameshow host) to get your pets spayed or neutered. It was very successful and now most dog owners neuter their dogs. There is a lot less random breeding or backyard breeding of dogs of the breeds that are typically owned by responsible owners. A lot of professional breeders even require spaying/neutering as part of the sale contract.

And to add to what @James done did it said, pit bulls have notoriously low neuter/spay rates. While most dogs are neutered/spay in rates ranging from 80% to 60%, pit bull neuter/spay rates are only around 27% (obviously a very biased website but from personal experience it doesn't seem too far off). Pits are the dog reproducing the most and the dogs people want the least so the shelters are overflowing with them as a result.

 

[A.P. Hill]

It astounds me that the states haven't outright banned pitbulls yet. At this stage, they almost seem like an invasive species.

One that consequently also eats your children.

Cause that would be rayciss an sheit considering the vast majority of people getting their shitbulls put down would be niggers. Activist ambulance chasing organizations like the ACLU have actually sued cities over this before.

 

[Male Idiot]

Staffordshires are generally smaller, small enough for an adult human man to wrangle. Absolutely not one for granny or kids, but perhaps viable as an in property guard that can't kill you but bite a gyppo's ankle hard enough.

That said, I find it very sad that you can't legally and economically just ferry the normal european dogs. These are often totally sane animals that got thrown out because they have become too big for the flat, like a labrador, or they got an illness that requires medication, or bark too loudly, like weiners and yorkies and small mixes. Or even that the owner, said old lady, dies, and the 7 year old weiner is suddenly oprhaned.

 

[OrSoHelpMe]

Pigeon breeding is WILD. absolute monstrosities some of them.

Are they trying to breed them back into dinosaurs?

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

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"Hot Boy"?
You just KNOW...

 

[DenseDeerFather]

Staffordshires are generally smaller, small enough for an adult human man to wrangle. Absolutely not one for granny or kids, but perhaps viable as an in property guard that can't kill you but bite a gyppo's ankle hard enough.

Funny you say that because aside from banned breeds, we also got breeds on a watchlist that walk a very thin line to be outright banned. And lo and behold, the Staffy is on the list. Damn, it really is our version of the Pittbull.

And now I wonder about the basic white girl owning them...or the many private sellers who have pictures of them with their babies and matching bows.

Spoiler: Banned dog breed autism and musings.

I suppose size is why we banned its American counterpart. Actually, all of the banned breeds are large strong breeds with our government deeming some of them "Too gamey and/or potentially fighting dogs"

Huge emphasis on "potentially" because a lot of them are herding dogs and guard dogs that someone considered "Maybe troublesome in the future". Moreover, eight of the thirteen banned breeds do not have a bite history.

I find the topic of banned dog breeds very interesting at least in my country for this reason. It should be noted that the banning has been facing endless criticism and still gets dragged been to this day.

Usually from the "no bad dogs, only bad owners" crowd but I find the banning of some breeds...curious.

So aside from AmStaff and Pittbulls, we also banned the Tosa for its historic purpose of being a fighting dog. The Fila for being bred to hunt down escaped slaves. Dogo Argentino for being bred to hunt very large game and apparently it has fighting dog instincts. This actually pissed a lot of people off.

American Bulldogs for its fighting dog and bloodsports lineage.

Caucasian Shepherds are apparently considered dangerous and are under restrictions in Russia so I suppose this one makes sense.

Where things kinda get a little questionable for me is when we reach the Boerboel. I am not familiar with this breed at all. AFAIK. Apparently, it is bred to be a watchdog without outright hostility. It's one of those "potentially dangerous" dogs.

Another one I'm a little puzzled over is the Kangal. It's not a fighting dog, it's a herding dog. I take it that the reason is due to Turkey banning the exportation of the breed to "keep it pure", making some countries paranoid so they outright banned the poor dog.

Curiously the Anatolian Sheperd, which is very similar to Kangals are also on a watchlist.

One that made everyone freak out was the Tornjak. To this day, it's still a wonder why the breed was banned. From what I hear about it, it seems like a fine dog fundamentally and an excellent working dog.

Same with the South Russian Ovcharka. I cannot find a single reason why this one was banned. At best, it may be because of aggression to strangers if not properly trained.

Now the one that also got a lot of people upset is the Šarplaninac. The inclusion of this breed caused a huge shitstorm because it was one of the dogs with no bite history.

These last breeds were not given a definitive reason for their prohibition. It was just "Well, we think they could be dangerous" which is pretty flimsy.

That said, I find it very sad that you can't legally and economically just ferry the normal european dogs. These are often totally sane animals that got thrown out because they have become too big for the flat, like a labrador, or they got an illness that requires medication, or bark too loudly, like weiners and yorkies and small mixes. Or even that the owner, said old lady, dies, and the 7 year old weiner is suddenly oprhaned.

Stories like that break my heart as they can infuriate me. A lot of the animals at the shelters are usually there because they were dumped at the side of the road, their owners died or they were too much for their owners and can result in pets not being properly raised. (Some of the shelter dogs have bios specifically mentioning that they can't be left alone at home at all)

I find the latter kinda easy to make me mad depending on the circumstances. Circumstances beyond anyone's control are one thing. Shit happens, and we become unable to keep our pets for whatever reason.

On the other hand, it's also (might even be often) because people don't actually put any thought into anything when getting a pet or they don't bother researching the breed.

Gotta mention that pet adoption group again but recently there was a post about a married couple giving away their Jack Russel Terrier pup because they also decided to get a newborn at the same time and found out the hard way that raising a baby human and a baby dog of a highly active breed that needs a lot of stimulation is not a good fucking idea.