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I wonder why people think that you want to ban cars and restrict people's freedom of movement...

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They physically can't help themselves. Maybe Republicans might be more open to the idea if you didn't act like mindless zealots about your 15 minute cities. This:
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Is how you act. Join or die for the bug hive. Get rid of your cars or else. That's how you negotiate, like zealots.
 
Gotta love how the most common rebuttal in that thread is that there is a cabal of oil and car companies purposefully spreading misinformation.
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clearly republitards are so retarded they believe the fake conspiracy started by the real conspiracy of oil and car companies!!!11
 
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Of course 'fully equipped 15-minute cities' is an unrealistic conspiracy theory. When have the Davos crew ever cared that much about our welfare?
Well you've been investing in public transit for a long time now and the results are saying something you don't want to listen to.
It's a great idea on paper. Yes, you need to plan your trip to coincide with bus or train times, but you don't need to drive yourself, you don't need to find somewhere to park, you don't need to worry about maintenance or gas or any of the costs of running the vehicle and the fee is (usually) so low that it would take several years of daily ridership to equal the cost of a car. Shit, why isn't it always packed full?

Because it's dirty, uncomfortable and often dangerous. Informal survey: How many Kiwis live or have lived in a place where the downtown bus station is a sketchy menagerie of freaks for most of the day? Something that's well within the capability of transit-pushers to fix, yet they would rather three homeless people camp out on a bus all day, shitting on the seats than fifty people use that bus to get to their destination.
 
Of course 'fully equipped 15-minute cities' is an unrealistic conspiracy theory. When have the Davos crew ever cared that much about our welfare?
As much as they like to cherry-pick Amsterdam-Centrum as some sort of urbanism ideal, I'm surprised they don't pick out modern mixed-use developments as "this is what a 15 minute city could look like". (It's not like it could be more artificial than a government-enforced one.)
 
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(160 kph is ~100 mph)

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(140kph = ~87 mph, 130 kph = ~81 mph, 100 kph = ~62 mph)

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Based Porsche owner tells them that 100 kph is too slow:
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Based Poles, Romanians, Germans, and Scots making the bikebrains seethe:
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This guy got downvoted for sharing a picture of his bike:
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I thought they liked bikes?

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Gas bike bad, electric bike good:
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I wonder why people think that you want to ban cars and restrict people's freedom of movement...
So if the company a person works for has a particularly large campus or workforce, how do 15 minute cities propose to prevent the areas from becoming mostly company towns?

I don't know about others but I prefer not spending my entire existence around my coworkers.
 
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It's like guns, where using it improperly will get you in trouble anyway. Cars are the same way. Going 100 mph anywhere is going to get you noticed by law enforcement, whether by big city cops (who will assume, usually correctly, that you stole it and/or fleeing a crime scene) or small town ones (who will gladly fuck you over even if you were doing 15 mph over).
 
It's like guns, where using it improperly will get you in trouble anyway. Cars are the same way. Going 100 mph anywhere is going to get you noticed by law enforcement, whether by big city cops (who will assume, usually correctly, that you stole it and/or fleeing a crime scene) or small town ones (who will gladly fuck you over even if you were doing 15 mph over).
There are actually places in Europe, like parts of the aforementioned Autobahn, that don't have a speed limit. You still need to use your common sense though.
 
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What they don't realize is most people would be ok with 15 minute White European cities. Just everyone knows 15 minute cities is code for you will live in the shit filled streets getting harassed by Pajeet scams and Niggers.
 
What they don't realize is most people would be ok with 15 minute White European cities. Just everyone knows 15 minute cities is code for you will live in the shit filled streets getting harassed by Pajeet scams and Niggers.
everybody would love 15 minute cities if it meant building new and supporting existing services and amenities, but it only seems to involve restricting vehicular traffic.
 
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Thanks to cars, I already live in a 15 minute city! Everything I need is a 15 minute drive (or less) away! If I took the bus it would be 45 minutes instead. Plus it's public transportation, I legit had a dream last night where someone tried to stab me on a train and I shot them, not even kidding dead serious, I just woke up from that dream half an hour ago.
 
everybody would love 15 minute cities if it meant building new and supporting existing services and amenities, but it only seems to involve restricting vehicular traffic.
No, because a 15 minute city is still a horrific dystopia, even if it's run by muh white Europeans or whatever the fuck. All it does is create captive audiences in each sector. Want to go to a restaurant in the next sector? Fuck you, there's one in your own. You don't like it? Fuck you. Have friends or family you want to visit in the next sector? Fuck you, find friends who live in yours. Had to move into a different sector because you changed jobs? You can have Zoom meetings with your old friends and your family - at least until your betters decide that Zoom is using too much precious power and therefore melting polar bears, after that, fuck you.

And with captive audiences also comes zero incentive to improve or even maintain services, so the restaurant in your sector that's just called The Restaurant is invariably shit. What you gonna do, go to a different one? FUCK. YOU.

Anyone who looks at the idea of a 15 minute city and isn't immediately horrified by the extremely obvious secondary effects is either a drooling retard incapable of recognizing obvious issues, or a dangerous psychopath who does recognize them and actually wants them, and both of these types of people need to be killed and turned into dog food because they're both too dangerous to let run around freely.
 
What they don't realize is most people would be ok with 15 minute White European cities. Just everyone knows 15 minute cities is code for you will live in the shit filled streets getting harassed by Pajeet scams and Niggers.
Not really. There are a lot of downsides like a lack of space and noise pollution.

It really sucks to live on top of retail as it can be incredibly noisy. Contrary to the urbanist meme, cars are not what makes a city loud. Maybe it works in a European city where most businesses close at 7 pm so you’re never at home when people are shopping, but then you live in a 14 hour city, not a 15 minute city.

There’s a reason why many new “mixed use” complexes in places where land isn’t super expensive have the retail in a separate area from the residential areas. It’s still within easy walking distance, but there’s a separation.

Also, as @S.C.U.D. said, suburbanites already live in 15 minute cities as long as they don’t have an autistic hatred of cars.
 
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Something that happens way too often, ‘trad’ architect suggests that the modern conception of architects being inherent heroic geniuses (the trend that lends itself to the stararchitect idea and resultant modernist monstrosities) and that older styles are time proven, gets the equivalent of passive-aggressive NYT fingersnapping by the yimby crew.

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Something that happens way too often, ‘trad’ architect suggests that the modern conception of architects being inherent heroic geniuses (the trend that lends itself to the stararchitect idea and resultant modernist monstrosities) and that older styles are time proven, gets the equivalent of passive-aggressive NYT fingersnapping by the yimby crew.

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I will remind these retards that the houses that Charles-Édouard Jeanneret and all the other early modernists designed for themselves looked nothing like the monstrosities they designed for others.
 
I've definitely noticed the cognitive dissonance when they complain about "soulless" subdivisions than clap their hands for every five-over-one that goes up, even though they look almost the same.

You'd think they'd champion the idea of themed, unique apartment complexes (in the 1970s, many of these did, with derived themes, like "French château" or "seaside" or whatever). Better yet, appeal to specific portions of the population, though over time laws have made this illegal ("singles only" complexes are now banned).
 
Were the pretty old five-over-ones in Europe ever actually designed as five-over-ones though? At the time they were built, they were also building shopping arcades* and covered markets as areas for commerce.

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Were the pretty old five-over-ones in Europe ever actually designed as five-over-ones though? At the time they were built, they were also building shopping arcades* and covered markets as areas for commerce.

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the 5 over 1 concept is really old, the old Roman insulas were basically the same thing, and pretty common in european cities till the modern day.
 
the 5 over 1 concept is really old, the old Roman insulas were basically the same thing, and pretty common in european cities till the modern day.
Yeah I know that. I'm just not sure that all of them were built explicitly to have a retail unit on the ground floor with separate living units above, maybe they'd be paired so the owner and his family could live above, or sold entirely as dwellings then converted to retail by the owner.
 
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