The Alt-Right - The Off Topic Sperging Containment Thread

[Vah]

I find it very difficult to define exactly what the alt right is. Their supposed beliefs are a jumbled mess that sort of averages out to neo-nazism. To me it seems like a blanket term for the media to generalize more conservative beliefs, and also those who like frog memes

 

[Marvin]

Before about... maybe two months ago, if you asked someone what the term "alt right" referred to (if they had indeed heard of the term), they would've probably described something that resembles edgier libertarians.

But since then, it's been referenced a few times in mass media and it's blown up, so it's anyone's guess what it means nowadays.

There are some groups of people I can use the term with in conversation, and they'll have a reasonable idea of what I'm referring to. But that's mostly because the only people I talk to about politics are kiwifarms people.

 

[Tookie]

I find it very difficult to define exactly what the alt right is. Their supposed beliefs are a jumbled mess that sort of averages out to neo-nazism. To me it seems like a blanket term for the media to generalize more conservative beliefs, and also those who like frog memes

Before about... maybe two months ago, if you asked someone what the term "alt right" referred to (if they had indeed heard of the term), they would've probably described something that resembles edgier libertarians.

Alt-Right started off as sort of a catch-all term for anyone on the right who had a beef with mainstream Republican leadership (i.e. Romney, Boehner, National Review, etc) and generally found them too milquetoast/moderate. The term was meaningless to start with since it encompassed groups that didn't really agree on much aside from "Fuck Washington" (libertarians of the Ron Paul variety, anti-immigration people, extreme evangelicals, whatever). Gradually, thanks to idiots like Ann Coulter being the only ones to embrace the term, it started to refer more to the hardcore anti-immigration crowd than anything and became closely associated with all the baggage and stupidity those folks bring with them.

 

[Xarpho]

I find it very difficult to define exactly what the alt right is. Their supposed beliefs are a jumbled mess that sort of averages out to neo-nazism. To me it seems like a blanket term for the media to generalize more conservative beliefs, and also those who like frog memes

If it's a "jumbled mess", it shouldn't "average out" to neo-nazism, because that would imply that the vast majority would be Neo-Nazis, or the more extreme rests beyond Nazism. Between the "Happy Merchant" memes and being openly nationalist (the lingering cultural effects from WWII that "nationalism = bad"), I haven't seen anyone advocating that we send all non-white Americans to the gas chambers or anything like that. I suppose a small minority have radical ideas more along those lines, but I would largely discredit that comparison.

 

[AnOminous]

If it's a "jumbled mess", it shouldn't "average out" to neo-nazism, because that would imply that the vast majority would be Neo-Nazis, or the more extreme rests beyond Nazism. Between the "Happy Merchant" memes and being openly nationalist (the lingering cultural effects from WWII that "nationalism = bad"), I haven't seen anyone advocating that we send all non-white Americans to the gas chambers or anything like that. I suppose a small minority have radical ideas more along those lines, but I would largely discredit that comparison.

Andrew Anglin routinely claims the alt-right means basically fascism of his sort, but he would claim that.

As for the /pol/ sorts they're probably about roughly split between ironic shitposting and people who take all the shit they say seriously. The proportion might have increased somewhat lately. A lot of them might not be actually racist, but they also don't give a shit if they look that way.

 

[Ebola]

I was just listening to the MSM (mainstream media) on the radio and they had a couple of "bipartisan" professors and a journalist claiming how Trump's 'corrupting influence' caused far too many people to turn away from the MSM and embrace the internet and social media for news and fact-checking, and that, because of this, Hillary will not win easily; the poorly-hidden panic in their voices was orgasmic to me as they described how they needed to "inject" the internet and major social media platforms with "credible fact-checkers" *coughCTRcough* with authority who would draw the masses away from 'fantasy' and lead the people to reality.

It's quite amazing. In previous election cycles, when trolls constantly bombarded republicans and conservatives without any mercy, helping democrats win, you never heard any complaints from the left. BUT now, when the trolls decide to target the left without mercy, they bitch and whine ten times more than the right, far worse than the right.

In addition, I thought Obama and the left said they wanted the government to be "transparent" and they desired information to flow freely, when this free flowing information was being used to attack the right. BUT today, we have Obama and the left literally throwing a temper tantrum over Wikileaks, similar groups, and claiming messages on the internet need to be controlled.

It's no wonder why so many people with power are hellbent on the destruction of the internet.

 

[GL99]

It's quite amazing. In previous election cycles, when trolls constantly bombarded republicans and conservatives without any mercy, helping democrats win,

I don't really see how trolls bombarded democrats any less. /pol/ stanned for Romney hard back in 2012, and the "Obongo" meme didn't just pop out of thin air.

 

[Too Many Crooks]

I noticed some alt-Righters and nationalists are obsessed with having children. Well, white children. And they're mad at feminists, liberals, or whomever for not having kids, or having kids with people the alt-right disapproves of.

They don't talk about how happy they would be as a father raising their children, or finding someone they love enough to spend the rest of their life with. They just want a brood mare to spawn kids for them. It sounds sad and loveless.

 

[c-no]

I noticed some alt-Righters and nationalists are obsessed with having children. Well, white children. And they're mad at feminists, liberals, or whomever for not having kids, or having kids with people the alt-right disapproves of.

They don't talk about happy they would be as a father raising their children, or finding someone they love enough to spend the rest of their life with. They just want a brood mare to spawn kids for them. It sounds sad and loveless.

From the sounds of it, that would be sad and loveless. They'd spend too much time bitching about people choosing to be childless and also bitch about people having kids with those they don't approve. If they are obsessed with having white children, then they should just try to get the spawn they want but that would mean not having enough time to bitch.

 

[Skeletor]

Andrew Anglin routinely claims the alt-right means basically fascism of his sort, but he would claim that.

As for the /pol/ sorts they're probably about roughly split between ironic shitposting and people who take all the shit they say seriously. The proportion might have increased somewhat lately. A lot of them might not be actually racist, but they also don't give a shit if they look that way.

Ironic humor isn't something that white supremacists are smart enough to get. They see Pepe saluting Hitler and think it's just it's a sincere expression of Neo-Nazi solidarity.

I think it would be a fun troll if the 4chan guys switched gears and started posting Black Lives Matter and pro-LGBT Pepe memes. Every six months or so, reappropriate the meme for a new cause and see how many people fall for it.

 

[AlanRickmanIsDead]

Ironic humor isn't something that white supremacists are smart enough to get. They see Pepe saluting Hitler and think it's just it's a sincere expression of Neo-Nazi solidarity.

I think it would be a fun troll if the 4chan guys switched gears and started posting Black Lives Matter and pro-LGBT Pepe memes. Every six months or so, reappropriate the meme for a new cause and see how many people fall for it.

Green Lives Matter?

 

[Skeletor]

Begun, the Pepe wars have.

 

[Abethedemon]

The alt-right seems pretty behind in their memes. Pepe is practically a meme zombie at this point.

 

[AlanRickmanIsDead]

Begun, the Pepe wars have.

Not brutal or disturbing enough.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

I noticed some alt-Righters and nationalists are obsessed with having children. Well, white children. And they're mad at feminists, liberals, or whomever for not having kids, or having kids with people the alt-right disapproves of.

They don't talk about how happy they would be as a father raising their children, or finding someone they love enough to spend the rest of their life with. They just want a brood mare to spawn kids for them. It sounds sad and loveless.

I find it genuinely disturbing tbh. It's more to do with their belief in White Genocide and that we need to keep producing white children to ensure the future of the race. They don't want to raise these children, that thought never enters their heads.

Nazi's had the same idea obviously. Lebensborn. Wonder why it appeals to these people...

Spoiler

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[Another Fellow]

So The Week included an article about the alt-right in its newest issue. Easy guess about their position.

Spoiler: Text of the article

Once confined to the internet's fringes, the extremist movement has been emboldened by the rise of Donald Trump. Here's everything you need to know:

What is the alt-right?
It's a weird mix of old-school neo-Nazis, conspiracy theorists, anti-globalists, and young right-wing internet trolls — all united in the belief that white male identity is under attack by multicultural, "politically correct" forces. Alt-righters are primarily active online, where they taunt progressive and mainstream conservative opponents with anti-Semitic, misogynistic, or racist emails, tweets, and other social media posts, and exchange white-nationalist memes and conspiracy theories on anonymous forums like Reddit and 4chan. Another major alt-right platform isBreitbart.com, a right-wing news site that was given a major boost whenBreitbart head Stephen Bannon was named CEO of Donald Trump's Republican presidential campaign in August. As a result, the alt-right has become "the most important pushback against having a multicultural and pluralistic society since the 1920s Klan," says investigative journalist Chip Berlet, who studies extreme right-wing movements.

Where did the movement originate?
The term "alternative right" was apparently coined in 2008 by Duke-educated historian Richard Spencer to describe right-wingers who feel "deeply alienated, intellectually, even emotionally and spiritually, from American conservatism." Among this alternative-right fringe, there was a growing sense that America had been abandoned by weak and feckless "cuckservatives" — conservatives who had been "cuckolded" or emasculated by their failure to fight diversity, globalization, and immigration. Spencer founded a new online publication called Alternative Right, filled with pseudo-scientific essays on race and genetics, with titles like "Is Black Genocide Right?" That intellectual tone disappeared as a younger breed of meme-posting right-wingers took over the movement, which they rebranded the more internet-friendly "alt-right." Fifty years ago, "these people were burning crosses," says Jonathan Greenblatt of the Anti-Defamation League. "Today they're burning up Twitter."

Who are today's alt-righters?
The movement's leading provocateur, Milo Yiannopoulos (see below), defines the alt-right as a "young, rebellious contingent who feel a mischievous urge to blaspheme, break all the rules, and say the unsayable." Alt-righters have their own lexicon — "libtards" for liberals and "cucks" for mainstream conservatives, to name two of the least offensive terms — and their own imagery. One of the most-used memes is Pepe the frog, a once popular millennial cartoon reclaimed by white supremacists on 4chan. Pepe is regularly posted wearing Nazi insignia or even depicted as Trump himself. Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., recently posted a Pepe image; he later claimed he had no idea it was associated with white supremacy. Another signature alt-right trick is to use "echoes," or triple parentheses, around a person's name when mocking him or her online — a signal to fellow anti-Semites that the person is Jewish.

What about Breitbart?
The site is the unofficial media hub for the alt-right, and home to Yiannopoulos himself. Typical posts include "Big gay hate machine closes Christian pizza parlor" and "Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy." Breitbart's beating heart is Stephen Bannon, a former Goldman Sachs banker who has made it his personal mission to "professionalize" the wildest, angriest fringes of the alt-right. Bannon — whose ex-wife accused him of domestic violence and anti-Semitic comments — has been behind the alt-right's most sensational campaigns. "If there's an explosion or a fire somewhere," says Matthew Boyle, Breitbart's Washington political editor, "Steve's probably nearby with some matches."

How does Trump fit in?
Trump began his national political career as the leading champion of birtherism — the belief that President Obama was born abroad and is therefore an illegitimate president. This has long been one of the alt-right's favorite conspiracy theories. Since Trump announced his presidential run last year, he has been the alt-right's candidate of choice — both for his outrageous, say-anything tone, and for his nativist proposals to ban Muslim immigrants and deport Mexicans. "[Trump's] fighting for us. He's saying we're going to be great again," says Spencer, the founder of the alternative right. "He's done more to awaken that nationalism than anyone in my lifetime. I love him."

Is the alt-right here to stay?
Even if Trump loses in November, the movement could continue to be a powerful political force. Bannon and Trump's rumored backup scheme is to launch a provocative alt-right media empire that will capitalize on Trump's popularity and compete with Fox News. There's also the wider fear that the alt-right's emergence into mainstream political discourse — accompanied by white supremacist, racist, and misogynist ideas and language — may have prompted a broader cultural shift in America. "Something happened in 2015 with the emergence of Trump.... Something was let loose by him," says conservative commentator John Podhoretz. "This code language — 'It's time to stop being politically correct' — is something he never defines. It's liberating, but there's no limiting factor. Somehow he has let loose this dark force."

The alt-right's enfant terrible
One of the most famous figureheads of the alt-right is self-styled provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, or just Milo — a bleached-blond gay Brit who rails against feminism, Islam, and the "guilt-mongerers" of the progressive left. Milo has declared his birthday as World Patriarchy Day, and set up an educational "charity" for white men called the Yiannopoulos Privilege Grant. In his mission to provoke outrage, Milo has formed some unnatural alliances. At this year's Republican National Convention, he and anti-Islam conservatives held a "Gays for Trump" party, which Milo attended wearing a bulletproof vest and a tank top with a rainbow fist holding a gun and the caption "We shoot back." And while Milo has spoken openly about his erotic attraction to "tall black men," his followers include some of the most extreme white supremacist voices on the alt-right. In July, he was banned by Twitter after launching a racist trolling campaign against black comedian Leslie Jones. Milo's shock humor has a dark side, says Heidi Beirich from the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups. "It's like he's joking: 'Ha ha, let me popularize the worst ideas that ever existed.' That's new, and that's scary."

I've started the clock on how long it'll for Null to notice and start sperging.

 

[Euphues Evenlede]

Has Alt-Right Leader Steven Crowder Gone Too Far?
Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
October 3, 2016

Spoiler

I’d like to address some concerns that people have raised about Steven “Jews Scream Louder in the Fake Shower” Crowder.

Many people were excited when Steven Crowder announced that he was Alt-Right, and would be assuming leadership of the movement. I personally felt like his extreme, genocidal rhetoric served as a good counterbalance to the faggotry that MILO has introduced into the movement.

However, a recent rant against NEETs and anime fans has some wondering if Crowder actually believes in the ideals of the Alt-Right, or if he is just using it as a vehicle to commit mass-murder.



I don’t speak for the entire Alt-Right, but I know that NEETs and anime Nazis make-up a significant portion of my readership, and in fact are at the core of the Alt-Right. I think it’s pretty out of line to call for them to be ovened with the kikes.

Perhaps even more disturbing than his anti-NEET rant, however, was a series of tweets which appeared to indicate gross mental instability. Several of the tweets seemed to allude to a plan to kill his ex-wife, Caroline.

All this having been said, the Alt-Right has been experiencing a serious leadership crisis, so many in the movement have shown a willingness to jump on board with Crowder’s plan to “genocide billions of people.” Some have even gone so far as to comply with his demands to remove their anime avatars on Twitter.

As of late, there has been a good deal of cucking, due to the media coverage the Alt-Right has been receiving. Some have even argued that we need a “big tent” in the Alt-Right, and have begun pushing to include non-White “allies of color,” including Jews. When you have people going on about stuff like that, I suppose it’s hard to reject Crowder simply because of a few personality quirks.

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if Crowder is in the movement because he believes in creating a future for Whites, or if he just wants to murder billions of people and creating a future for Whites is a good excuse for that.

At least he wants to gas kikes. As far as I’m concerned, his psychological state is none of my business.

 

[AnOminous]

Has Alt-Right Leader Steven Crowder Gone Too Far?

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I like how this Crowder asshat uses the "throw the Jew down a well" joke, which he stole from a Jew who was making fun of assholes just like him.

 

[KingGeedorah]

Wow that Steven guy is a giant faggot. Edgy and uses all caps when tweeting about genocide. Would be interesting to see if he took the mantle of "leader" of the alt-right and what silly shit would come out of that.

 

[Pepsi-Cola]

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