Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[mindlessobserver]

Anderson v. Liberty Lobby is one of the leading cases involving First Amendment law and literally involves Willis Carto, the most notorious neo-Nazi of his time. Of course, they decided against him.

They also ordered a Virginia woman abused by her adopted family and raped by her "uncle" to be forcibly sterilized in Buck v. Bell. Folks in western Virginia learn about that case with mothers milk. Its NOW considered part of the unholy trinity of Supreme Court cases, but never doubt the capability of the honorable court to exact extreme cruelty against the most defenseless because they view them as contemptable.

Funny story, Buck v. Bell has never been reversed. Its still established law.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The Clerk's office closes in 16 minutes. As of now, Russ hasn't filed anything.

Just from a layman's perspective, it seems a very flimsy technically to say "But does knowing about something equal KNOWLEDGE OF IT!" Much less important enough for it to take up the first several dozen pages, which the clerk will only read 3 of before deciding to pass it on or not.

But maybe in legalese "does knowing equate knowledge?" is a super important question to judges and will pique their interest right away! I don't have that knowledge

Knowledge of the underlying infringement is one of essential parts of contributory copyright infringement. You need all three factors to succeed on the claim. The argument is, among other things, that Null's case lacks two elements; actual knowledge and inducement.

That said, in regards to actual knowledge, Skordas never asserted on the district and the appellate level that Null didn't have it. Wouldn't this defense be waived then?

 

[mindlessobserver]

The Clerk's office closes in 16 minutes. As of now, Russ hasn't filed anything.

Russ filed a petition for a 90 stay. In his head this means he has 90 days to file.

 

[AnOminous]

Just from a layman's perspective, it seems a very flimsy technically to say "But does knowing about something equal KNOWLEDGE OF IT!"

Being told something by a liar doesn't mean you know it.

And knowledge is an essential element of contributory infringement.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Russ filed a petition for a 90 stay. In his head this means he has 90 days to file.

Russ will probably mention this in his response to Hardin’s motion to dismiss that’ll almost certainly come Monday.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Welp, that's it, the "court" is closed, and Russ is officially in breach of contact (I should fucking trademark that because it's awesome).

Start the 120 day clock on the "court" politely asking him to submit something with no repercussions for his idiocy or tardiness.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Fremantle didn't settle. They not only won but put Greer's entire litigation history into a filing.

You're right, of course. I think I was getting the mediation that we had to do confused with that case. Soz.

 

[DavidS877]

Current state of this thread.

 

[SpellforceFan]

I was kind of hoping it would be null's version of Francis E. Dec's "To All Judges" letter.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

SCOTUS is incredibly persnickety about this and has very strict rules. This is how these petitions are formatted unless you want them instantly thrown in the trash.

This is the one place that won't play fuckfuck games with Greer or any pro se

 

[mindlessobserver]

Being told something by a liar doesn't mean you know it.

And knowledge is an essential element of contributory infringement.

Thankfully, our learned elders in the 10th circuit say that receipt of a DMCA not only constitutes knowledge, it also automatically precludes any fair use defenses. Why? Well, because you are "le bad" that's why!

Fear not though internet. This new regime only applies to a small little forum. It won't matter. That we kinda, sorta, actually, wrote into common law the rule that once you receive a DMCA you not only have knowledge of infringement, you must also immediately assert a fair use defense in a counter claim before the lawsuit even begins. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. If you don't like it, appeal to the supreme court with money your little forum does not have lmao!

 

[Thomas Talus]

My Cousin Vinny came in #3 on the ABA's list of Best Lawyer Movies of All Time, after the original Twelve Angry Men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

I always recommend "Anatomy of a Murder" (their #4) for its accuracy; especially because at the end the client skips town without paying!

 

[AnOminous]

Thankfully, our learned elders in the 10th circuit say that receipt of a DMCA not only constitutes knowledge, it also automatically precludes any fair use defenses. Why? Well, because you are "le bad" that's why!

Not only that, but just telling anyone you received it means you're guilty.

My Cousin Vinny came in #3 on the ABA's list of Best Lawyer Movies of All Time, after the original Twelve Angry Men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

The first two are wonderful, idealized portrayals of how lawyers wish they would be viewed. My Cousin Vinny is about how shit actually happens.

 

[WelperHelper99]

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Current state of this thread.

The more I read this thread, the more I'm glad I've only dealt with the Utah courts on traffic violations. They seem kinda retarded the higher up you go.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The more I read this thread, the more I'm glad I've only dealt with the Utah courts on traffic violations. They seem kinda retarded the higher up you go.

This can be generalised to all courts in every jurisdiction of every nation on earth.

 

[WelperHelper99]

This can be generalised to all courts in every jurisdiction of every nation on earth.

It's just weird. I like the laws in Utah, especially the gun laws, hense I live here, it just seems the courts are a coin toss on what they do with them unless it's administrative like running a red light, shit like that.

 

[TheClappening]

The first two are wonderful, idealized portrayals of how lawyers wish they would be viewed. My Cousin Vinny is about how shit actually happens.

We all want our lawyers to be tall stately Gregory Peck.

We'll instead get goofy Pesci.

 

[AnOminous]

We'll instead get goofy Pesci.

Pesci in that movie is what you actually want.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Russ isn't the defendant, but what are the odds that when he files his reply "I'm a pro se litigant here's muh plights" the Supreme Court will immediately say "This is the kind of sovereign citizen bullshit we don't take!"

 

[mindlessobserver]

Russ isn't the defendant, but what are the odds that when he files his reply "I'm a pro se litigant here's muh plights" the Supreme Court will immediately say "This is the kind of sovereign citizen bullshit we don't take!"

None.

If Russel wants to reply, the rules and formatting are publicly available, and pro se litigants are free to avail themselves of this information to make a pro se filing in the Supreme Court of the United States.

Of course, Russell has more immediate issues. He has 30 days to build his supplication to the SCOTUS. His response to the Rule 19 motion to enjoin Google to his lawsuit is due, as is his response to defendants demand to restate causes of action and subject entities to litigation.