Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

The base Call of Duty app is around 50-ish gigs, which mostly consists of assets for MW22/23, skins, and other shit like that I'm assuming. The actual download for Warzone is around 30 gigs, so the game in reality is around 80-90 gigs I think. I'm assuming you're getting the size from the Steam page? The size required isn't always accurate, TEKKEN 8 says that it requires nearly 100 gigs, when the game itself is only 86.56 gigs.
 
I am greatly enjoying how much of a wet fart MWIII as a whole has become, but Zombies especially. I bet Activision thought this was going to make the game a killer app, but it turned out to be something that players played for a couple of matches and then completely forgot about. There is no content for it on Youtube, Vanguard killed the community and it isn't coming back, too many OGs left for greener pastures and the ceiling to enter the community is way too high for most people unless they grew up with it.
I mean, it's literally just DMZ with zombies, what was anyone expecting? Only hope left is to see what Treyarch is planning for Dark Aether 2.0, but even then the prequel/side story in Vanguard turned out to be a massive dud. It made the universe LESS interesting and was one of the first times I ever found myself actually cringing at the whole thing(which is saying something when half the Zombies universe was written as a joke, they only got more serious about it when Blundell came along and tried to make it some sort of an odyssey). Something tells me that writing and gameplay quality won't be improving in BO5, merely not stagnating as much as with MWIII.
That's really the crux of the issue, isn't it? COD is a has-been franchise. Activision lost too much goodwill, now too many fans have walked. Sure, they have their paypigs and they have their brainless console fanbase, but that's not going to bring them any big bucks unless they can convince the fans to come back. Remember, these companies always want MORE no matter how much they have, consequences happen when they can't make the quotas so at some point, desperation sets in.
I, for one, don't care about BO5 because I will never play it. It doesn't matter how good it is, there is too many hurdles for me just to play it, such as:
*Required mobile phone number just to play the game
*Constant AI monitorning, bans come out of nowhere
*Shadow bans from reports, players abuse them when they suck and get killed and AI jannies don't care
*Blatant hacking that seems to happen regardless of their "state of the art" kernel level anti-cheat
*Stagnation in gameplay department, everything still feels like MW2019. This never got that bad, even MW2 and MW3 back in the day had enough differences to make each worth playing in their own right, now MWIII didn't even have any brand new maps on launch and the new ones suck
*Macrotransactions everywhere
*Treyarch isn't what it used to be, nuff said
*Zombies story is done, no need for me to pay attention to it any longer. I can look up the lore for free
*Huge filesizes that more or less require their own hard drive just to play
*Activision is a disgusting company and I don't want to support them in any way

There is probably more, but I'm not going to go on all day. Point is, that most people have either been burned one time too many or have moved on. COD isn't the go-to shooter to play with friends anymore and neither is Halo, hard to believe that COD used to actually set industry standards at one point. Now, it's the most soulless follower of trends that doesn't even understand why they're popular in the first place, let alone innovate on them.
 
I am greatly enjoying how much of a wet fart MWIII as a whole has become, but Zombies especially. I bet Activision thought this was going to make the game a killer app, but it turned out to be something that players played for a couple of matches and then completely forgot about. There is no content for it on Youtube,
I remember when Warzone blew up in popularity during COVID. It was never for me, but I understood the appeal of it. Do people even care for CoD battle royale anymore? Cheaters, exploitative measures, "meta" overtaking "skill", cumbersome events that don't even work. CoD has no cohesion anymore; just throw everything at it and see what "sticks." It's an arcade shooter that TRIES to be edgy but fails.
 

You could tell that MWIII was made for contractual obligations. Take all the scraps from the MW foundation with an unreliable support team and this is the result. I'm more confused with MWIII's story than outright angry. It's actually just filler in every way possible. Play it in the background, you won't miss it.
 

You could tell that MWIII was made for contractual obligations. Take all the scraps from the MW foundation with an unreliable support team and this is the result. I'm more confused with MWIII's story than outright angry. It's actually just filler in every way possible. Play it in the background, you won't miss it.
Pretty much the majority of CoD is an embarrassment like with almost easy other big name series
 
There is probably more, but I'm not going to go on all day. Point is, that most people have either been burned one time too many or have moved on. COD isn't the go-to shooter to play with friends anymore and neither is Halo, hard to believe that COD used to actually set industry standards at one point.

Modern Warfare is 14 years old at this point. They're not interested in making a good game, because they think they can make the number go up the same amount every year forever. They don't understand growth always looks like an S-curve.
 
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Modern Warfare is 14 years old at this point
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FWIW, it sounds like Infinity Ward or Activision just handed this off to Sledgehammer Games because they wanted another MW reboot. This is mismanagement all around.
 
FWIW, it sounds like Infinity Ward or Activision just handed this off to Sledgehammer Games because they wanted another MW reboot. This is mismanagement all around.
The conspiracy theories going around is that it's quite the opposite: After the disaster that was MWII, everyone wanted a Sledgehammer game next(god knows why after Vanguard). They made the game and originally, on launch day, it wasn't THAT bad, even if it didn't have an original bone in it's body. Then, with the new updates, game started resembling MWII more and more and some really shitty balancing choices were made. That's when people started suggesting that IW is calling the shots and using Sledgehammer as a shield for criticism, knowing how hated they are within the community.
Not like it matters, MWIII was doomed from the start and I can't believe it is actually being received even worse than Vanguard.
 
They made the game and originally, on launch day, it wasn't THAT bad, even if it didn't have an original bone in it's body. Then, with the new updates, game started resembling MWII more and more and some really shitty balancing choices were made. That's when people started suggesting that IW is calling the shots and using Sledgehammer as a shield for criticism, knowing how hated they are within the community.
I want to know who approved the sudden change for MWIII to be a full fledged game. I'm hearing that the MS/Activision buyout played a part into it. Whether it's worse than Vanguard is up to debate,
 
Whether it's worse than Vanguard is up to debate
Vanguard rapes the WW2 setting even more than, well, COD WW2 and is a poor man's MW2019 clone with barely any content and the most ridiculous grinding of any games at that point, might still be worse than MWII and MWIII. Zombies mode was so badly rushed and not fun to play that it single handedly killed the zombies community and there is zero hype about BO5, nobody cares about MWIII zombies either.

MWIII is merely a cashgrab 70$ DLC sold as a full game. It's worst crime is that it is becoming a testing site for future microtransaction strategies and AI algorithm/AI bot manipulation.

I say Vanguard is worse because while MWIII has no soul, Vanguard is just straight up a game made in bad faith, one that it's creators didn't care about. The people who made Vanguard hate white people, they hate WW2, they didn't even know anything about the guns of the era and didn't bother hiring an expert because they didn't want "white toxicity" in their office. Story was written by Sam Maggs and on top of being capeshit in COD form, it got some hilariously bad historical accuracy errors like STG44s in Japan. Multiplayer also had some really bad operators that were essentially Sam Maggs' OCs, from random niggers all over the place to strong womyn lesbians to operators who had wrong dates for WW1 in their bio. Speaking of capeshit, that's also what Zombies was going for, I say going for because it isn't finished and even now, there is no conclusion to the story or build up, it's an eternal beta that is made up of two shitty original maps and one ported over from oldschool zombies(Shi No Numa). Even the devs gave up and the final season started adding random shit that had nothing to do with WW2, like laser guns, Raul Menendez operator from BO2, maps that don't even take place during WW2, skins taken straight from COD Mobile that have nothing to do with rest of COD let alone WW2 ect.
I could go on, that game was the absolute worst COD has ever been, and MWII/III are just shitting on the corpse with the worst, most egregious monetization and AI manipulation in gaming. Vanguard was the rape with the strangling at the end, MWII was the rapist fucking the cold corpse and with MWIII he got horny and dug up the skeleton.

I suggest watching 21K video on Vanguard, he goes over the game in detail and sheds more light on obvious woke propaganda
 
MWIII at least has somewhat of an excuse for the state it is in (being rushed, turned from an expansion to full release at the last minute, last second rewrite of the script, etc).

Vanguard was just made with complete and utter apathy.
 
The conspiracy theories going around is that it's quite the opposite: After the disaster that was MWII, everyone wanted a Sledgehammer game next(god knows why after Vanguard). They made the game and originally, on launch day, it wasn't THAT bad, even if it didn't have an original bone in it's body. Then, with the new updates, game started resembling MWII more and more and some really shitty balancing choices were made. That's when people started suggesting that IW is calling the shots and using Sledgehammer as a shield for criticism, knowing how hated they are within the community.
Not like it matters, MWIII was doomed from the start and I can't believe it is actually being received even worse than Vanguard.

MWII did okay saleswise. What happened is that all SHG CoDs were shit and sold poorly, so they got taken off the main series, which went back to a 2-year cycle. However, as Treyarch has been growing and getting woker, they're increasingly inept. And, once again, they were behind schedule in delivering the follow-up to MWII, so SHG got called in to throw some shit together and call it MW III, which 3arc's game got delayed to this year.
 
That's the first I've seen of the gameplay. We've come full-circle to shitty knockoff gook shooters like Soldier Front, A.V.A., and Combat Arms. Except this time, it's current year tech and AAA studios. If you recognize any of these games, it's about time for your prostate exam. You're getting old.
Hearing Combat Arms being brought up makes me feel super old, but it reminds me more of Ballistic than anything. Fuck me that's an aesthetic I didn't expect to pop back up in 2024. Game's visually cluttered as fuck though, too many shitty effects.
 
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I suggest watching 21K video on Vanguard, he goes over the game in detail and sheds more light on obvious woke propaganda
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5wiA2jfHLHs
Already seen it. I'd recommend anybody that wonders why CoD: Vanguard is a steaming pile of shit to watch his take on it.

I'd say Call of Duty: Vanguard is the worst Call of Duty, nay worst WWII shooter yet. Every design choice down to its writing, setting, multiplayer, intent, creative integrity, historical context falters in execution. It wasn't enough that they decided to retcon established canon for Warzone. Or blatantly rewrite historical events to fit a "progressive" fan fiction agenda. No, they decided to "modernize" a World War II themed game with laser guns, rappers, King Kong and anime to sell to its autistic fanbase.

They had the nerve to try to make Vanguard into a trilogy. Thank God it sold poorly to where those plans were scrapped. There's literally a campaign level where there's train tracks to DIRECT you to progress. If that's not insulting to the average gamer, I don't know what is.
 
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