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He had a chat with Eric about TF2 and gave a brief synopsis. TL;DR: We're getting our seasonal slop while Valve does nothing about the bot/cheating crisis as usual for the 4th year in a row while expecting us to pay up. Nothing new.
I had this thought during the create depression is that unless it fucks with the money Valve will not care. The sad thing is a proper #savetf2 movement will be not spending / trading (an actual boycott) in Valve puts effort into fixing things but it will never happen.
 
I think it would be pretty funny if nobody bought the seasonal slop during the next update, taunts included, just to prove that they were capable of sending a message. But then Valve might use that as an excuse to go "well it's not making us any money anyways" and pull the plug after all. But the former will never happen because there will always be consoomers. Would be funny tho

You know, this reminds me of how apparently the guy that originally came up with Sherlock Holmes got tired of writing stories about him and tried killing him off numerous times, but people kept getting pissed at him. So he kept bringing him back. People were more upset about the death of the character than the author, lil fucked to be honest. But that's one guy compared to a whole company so... probably not the most apt comparison.
 
Zesty got a new chair.
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I had this thought during the create depression is that unless it fucks with the money Valve will not care. The sad thing is a proper #savetf2 movement will be not spending / trading (an actual boycott) in Valve puts effort into fixing things but it will never happen.
Honestly, even if something like that were to happen, would Valve actually bother trying to fix anything or just shut the game down at that point? I'm sure TF2 has its fair share of whales but as far as I know the big moneymakers have always been Counter Strike and DOTA.
 
The vigilante bullshit caused because of this is infinitely funnier.

Personal shoutouts to lbox/rijin users with aimbot exclusively configured to target only catbots/nullnexus users and tacobot niggas using lmaobox/seowned to grief MVM games.
Well Tacobot is strongly anti-cheat, so that sort of thing isn't done by them. Although if you're just using 'Tacobot' as a generic term for 'toxic mvm player' then sure, some of them do cheat, but it's for the purpose of getting loot faster, not griefing. (Not to say they wouldn't like to troll you if possible while they're doing it.) It continues to routinely surprise me, all of the misconceptions the general community of TF2 has about Tacobot. I mean, just look through the comments on one of Weezy's videos if you want to see the kind of brain damage I'm talking about. For example, did you know Tacobot tried to completely overhaul their purpose and public image two years ago in an attempt to make people view them as non-toxic? Well fucking shocker, it didn't work, and I told Viyzen (The cunt responsible for this overhaul.) at the time that this would not work. All it resulted in was all of the funny people like Bill Gaither leaving, and the TF2 community's perception of tacobot improved by exactly 0%.

This may be TMI or sperging but I think it's interesting and insightful enough to post. Please bombard me with puzzle pieces if you feel I deserve it.
 
Well Tacobot is strongly anti-cheat, so that sort of thing isn't done by them. Although if you're just using 'Tacobot' as a generic term for 'toxic mvm player' then sure, some of them do cheat, but it's for the purpose of getting loot faster, not griefing. (Not to say they wouldn't like to troll you if possible while they're doing it.) It continues to routinely surprise me, all of the misconceptions the general community of TF2 has about Tacobot. I mean, just look through the comments on one of Weezy's videos if you want to see the kind of brain damage I'm talking about. For example, did you know Tacobot tried to completely overhaul their purpose and public image two years ago in an attempt to make people view them as non-toxic? Well fucking shocker, it didn't work, and I told Viyzen (The cunt responsible for this overhaul.) at the time that this would not work. All it resulted in was all of the funny people like Bill Gaither leaving, and the TF2 community's perception of tacobot improved by exactly 0%.

This may be TMI or sperging but I think it's interesting and insightful enough to post. Please bombard me with puzzle pieces if you feel I deserve it.
Tacobot started as almost an absurd parody of the super toxic subsection of the mvm community. The people originally involved like herald11 and Bill Gaither acted so insane and retarded that it wrapped back around to being funny sometimes, even if they were being completely serious. It was a small and very ridiculous corner of the mvm community that stayed in their own lane in mannup until the DeWill video came out and put them into the mainstream. This video single handedly turned them into the big bad boogeyman that really only consisted of a dozen active members at the time. Now any and every remotely toxic person is labeled as tacobot, despite the group being very small and tight-knit.

The group eventually attracted some genuinely deplorable people after this video dropped that weren't just mvm retards. For example this fucking guy who sharked a kid out of that golden pan for $1000 and, until recently, openly bragged about it saying "you get what you deserve" with an imgur link to the PayPal transaction in the item description. I'm guessing he saw how bad this looked and wiped the description.
 
Overall your analysis is quite spot-on, but I take issue with a few bits of it.
The people originally involved like herald11 and Bill Gaither acted so insane and retarded that it wrapped back around to being funny sometimes, even if they were being completely serious.
Bill was never serious in those videos. I can't speak for Herald because I've not spoken to him much, but I've been personal friends with Bill for years. It was trolling to upset people and get attention. It worked incredibly well, might I add. A lot of the so-called "toxic high tours" tend to have a public facing personality that is by and large fabricated for the purpose of upsetting people, because we think it's funny.
For example this fucking guy who sharked a kid out of that golden pan for $1000 and, until recently, openly bragged about it saying "you get what you deserve"
Oh yes, Flarez. My understanding is that after the significant community backlash, he paid the person he scammed back in full (I have never verified this, just been told it by others, so take this with a massive grain of salt.) which really made me lose the last of my respect for him. He couldn't even commit to being a shitty person, instead he was a coward and gave it back because of internet people being mean.
 
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Well Tacobot is strongly anti-cheat, so that sort of thing isn't done by them.
The guy in our lobby was fucking with packets to the point rijin picked up on it. I won't say he was rage hacking or being overly obvious about it. However you have to use cheats to sus him out. That's the only reason my alt is not on there at the moment because we called him out on it.

I find hypocrisy to be par for the course for the more nn tacobot members, including closet cheating.
Although if you're just using 'Tacobot' as a generic term for 'toxic mvm player
He is a known uploader to the website.
It continues to routinely surprise me, all of the misconceptions the general community of TF2 has about Tacobot. I mean, just look through the comments on one of Weezy's videos if you want to see the kind of brain damage I'm talking about.
Weezy's videos only brought out the most unhinged, retarded people from both sides into something that is not even their domain to talk in. Not to say Weezy has no credibility to his words, I've not seen tribalism this bad in tf2 ever before with people willing to dedicate their time to ruin games for a sense of having their purist mindset satisfied.
Well fucking shocker, it didn't work
This community does nothing but purity-pass to the bitter end. Unless you have a 10-year old account with green steamrep, clean account record and open account you are by default either irrelevant or scum by any measure from the community. How tacobot started is how tacobot will be perceived to the end of times.

All it resulted in was all of the funny people like Bill Gaither leaving
The only thing I remember about him is that he is ex-lmaobox and gets really defensive when you mention his past history. I don't find being ex-lmaobox (provided you actually dont use it anymore unlike a certain other retard) to be a permanent mark but it is rather funny how he immediately changes tone when you do it.
 
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The guy in our lobby was fucking with packets to the point rijin picked up on it. I won't say he was rage hacking or being overly obvious about it. However you have to use cheats to sus him out. That's the only reason my alt is not on there at the moment because we called him out on it.

I find hypocrisy to be par for the course for the more nn tacobot members, including closet cheating.
I wasn't there, but I can believe it. I know of at least one tacobot member who was ejected after being caught playing with cheaters. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt for not cheating, not because they're altruistic or anything, but purely because of the unbridled autistic hatred many of them have for cheaters.
Weezy's videos only brought out the most unhinged, retarded people from both sides into something that is not even their domain to talk in. Not to say Weezy has no credibility to his words, I've not seen tribalism this bad in tf2 ever before with people willing to dedicate their time to ruin games for a sense of having their purist mindset satisfied.
Very true. I have personal reasons to really dislike Weezy, but I think his videos are a net-positive for the MvM community. That being said, his comments are an absolute gold mine. People autistically screeching from both directions. I also frequently dedicate my time to ruining games of MvM, but I just do it to piss people off. Fucking with people in MvM for any other reason than just wanting to upset people cause it's funny is gay.
This community does nothing but purity-pass to the bitter end. Unless you have a 10-year old account with green steamrep, clean account record and open account you are by default either irrelevant or scum by any measure from the community. How tacobot started is how tacobot will be perceived to the end of times.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Short of completely denouncing everything they've ever done, totally shifting the mission to the polar opposite of what it was before, and at least 75% of the members trooning out, nobody's opinion was going to change.

The only thing I remember about him is that he is ex-lmaobox and gets really defensive when you mention his past history. I don't find being ex-lmaobox (provided you actually dont use it anymore unlike a certain other retard) to be a permanent mark but it is rather funny how he immediately changes tone when you do it.
Funny you mention that, I'm actually the person that convinced Bill to buy lmaobox and cheat with me. I personally don't care if someone cheats or not, but I get why he's defensive about it. Maybe showing my power level a bit there, but I'd be happy to give you a run-down of the events that happened if you're interested, but this post is long enough already.
 
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But really it's actually a pretty unremarkable story. I met Bill in 2018, and by that point I had been cheating in casual on-and-off for a few years. I hadn't done it for awhile, but sometime early in 2019 the itch struck me so I started cheating in casual again. I had also been getting into MvM, so I did some of that as well. Eventually I told Bill about it, he thought it was funny, so we did some cheating in casual and MvM together. I actually got an Australium Blutsauger during one of these missions and still have the recording of the drop. To make a long story short, me and him stopped talking for awhile over a falling out, during that he stopped cheating and "came out" about what he had been doing.

As for why he gets so defensive about it, that part is pretty simple: because it makes him look like a hypocrite.
 
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Speaking of Rijin, Rijin was created by an autistic BritBong so retarded, he has his own ED page.

He has an extremely long history of RATting & scamming people (even today!), & I wouldn't doubt he has some shady shit going on with Rijin, he also copyright claims any videos on YT that even slightly criticize his cheat/supreme authority, or re-upload the gem that is his vines. (He will also rage ban you from his cheat if you make even the slightest joke towards him or in the forum)
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Rijin has been very open on scamming their users/exit scamming, they did it with their Rust userbase back in the day, as well as R6S, Apex Legends, Escape From Tarkov, and most recently Overwatch 2, though OW2 seemingly seems more innocent since they were hit with a lawsuit from Blizzard. The best part about this was that TO GET ACCESS TO BUY THE CHEAT, you would HAVE to send your legal ID card & your address AKA DOX yourself! (I'm not fucking kidding). This was to "see" if you were not a game developer or some higher-up, when in reality, it was to laugh at you and use it as blackmail, or to just outright Dox you if they feel like it. It is also not a coincidence that they only make cheats for Source Engine games nowadays, which are famously known for being some of the easiest games on Earth to make cheats for & how garbage VAC is.
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The funniest thing is that Senator/2cash shut (majority) of those cheats down because he paid for Anti-Cheat bypasses that got patched in a couple of months, aka he's retarded and can't code. They also strictly state in the TOS that they will provide refunds, keep in mind that Rust/EAC/BattlEye cheats are not cheap, they can go for thousands of dollars, to 100s a month, especially ones that are private with good security, which is what Rijin promised. (All of these mentioned cheats went for these prices).
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Senator/2cash was also behind the infamous cheat known as "Treadhack" back in the days of CSGO, it was a NOSPREAD HvH ONLY cheat, which if you are not aware, nospread HvH is one of the most niche & boring types of HvHing you can do, he was selling this cheat for unironically upwards to $500+. He boasted that it would "own" Skeet, which back in the day was considered thee Jesus cheat of CSGO, and people would literally kill each other just for an invite to get permission to buy the thing. Later down the line he ends up, drumroll....... scamming tons of people, and disappears for a bit, aka the 2cash cycle. The cheat also had a RAT in it LOL!

Lots of this stuff has been lost to time due to 2cash's autistic obsession with shutting it down (oy vey), I cannot even find any of his Vines anymore, or any with actual audio, allot of the old videos calling him out/organizing his autism have been copyright struck, but thankfully his ED is still around which archives his very early rise of supreme wheelchairism. I could also bring up allot more niche retarded shit, like how he works with Rud (creator of the cheat Lithium), who has just as an infamous background as 2cash, but you only need the basic rundown to know how much of a fag this guy is.


TL;DR Creator of Rijin has an extremely long history of RATting, scamming, & being extremely autistic. If you or anyone you know are using his cheat, refund (if you can LOL!), buy Czechbox or Nullcore instead, and factory reset your PC now!!

rijin.solutions - at least senator's sister is hot
rijin.solutions - poorly ported hacks
rijin.solutions - ID required to use
rijin.solutions - clientside teleport enemies today
rijin.solutions - less features, monthly priced
rijin.solutions - resolver coming soon
rijin.solutions - supporting circular movement
rijin.solutions - run our loader, ruin your computer
rijin.solutions - backed by csgo cheat users
rijin.solutions - only getting headshotted
rijin.solutions - play sniper with this cheat to make a clown of yourself
rijin.solutions - now with projectile hitchance
rijin.solutions - fps tampering hacks
rijin.solutions - wide esp boxes are our style
rijin.solutions - lose all hvhs with only 1 antiaim option
rijin.solutions - aimbot that shoots at walls
rijin.solutions - porting csgo features that totally work in tf2
rijin.solutions - 'created' by famous vine star 2cash
rijin.solutions - one button - many flags
rijin.solutions - the ting(ed) hack
rijin.solutions - hope you own a usb stick
rijin.solutions - 1000 aimbot fov for all your needs
rijin.solutions - unique features such as: cd-disc radar
rijin.solutions - no hitscan? not our problem
rijin.solutions - record for longest injection time
rijin.solutions - complain in shoutbox after you lose!
rijin.solutions - negative k/d guaranteed
rijin.solutions - misc features that weren't pasted from potassium i swear
rijin.solutions - lose to legits
rijin.solutions - you can always chargeback i guess
rijin.solutions - less features than lmaobox free
rijin.solutions - we failed at gmod and csgo so here we are in tf2
rijin.solutions - how can we make this game look even uglier?
rijin.solutions - proof that aspergers syndrome does not make you good at computer
rijin.solutions - 60 frames per minute
rijin.solutions - my ego is bigger than my cheat
rijin.solutions - spoon fed retards
rijin.solutions - senator doesn't know how to AnimFix
rijin.solutions - yeah this is the best name we could think of
rijin.solutions - warranty void if injected
rijin.solutions - at least the "buy cheat" button worked
rijin.solutions - we add "BETA" to our cheats to pretend we have twice as many of them
rijin.solutions - photoshop a fake dox to join
rijin.solutions - we suck at hvh and we suck at everything else too
rijin.solutions - does backtrack work yet? no? maybe next year...
rijin.solutions - hate your computer? just inject this into it
rijin.solutions - positively reviewed by anatrax (a literal retard who eats his own shit)
rijin.solutions - even the esp is pasted
rijin.solutions - can't detect a cheat that nobody uses
rijin.solutions - should've just bought lmaobox
rijin.solutions - a keiran watkins masterpiece
 

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I was watching the recent MATI earlier and during the Idubbbz podcast segment, when their 'producer' started talking I couldn't hold my smile in.
That fat greasy midwit retard was Uncle Dane. I'm probably late to this and I imagine it might be common knowledge considering the interactions Dane and Ian have had before, but it was pretty funny for me to see a crossover episode between a cuck, and a cuck that plays a game I like.
 
Apologies if this has already been posted on KF, this is month-old news. Was going to post after the stream but I'm lazy and forgot
Zesty claims to have major dirt on more than a few worksloppers, a smear campaign against him spearheaded by the Emporium, and a friendly home visit from a Xitter schizo:
I can't find the other VOD, but Zesty has claimed that he is in the midst of producing a video about this very topic on a recent stream.
Perhaps we could dig further, but from what I've heard, they frequently wipe their channels all the time. So archives are probably hard to come by.
 
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