US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

You will never be as free again as you are in this very moment.

 

[Psyduck]

You will never be as free again as you are in this very moment.

I read this while taking a shit and it felt appropiate somehow

 

[The Ugly One]

There are practical limits to electoral fraud, and Trump is going to be doing ballot harvesting of his own now.

What limits? In Detroit, they count votes that don't even exist. Like there are only 100 ballots in the box, and they just say "lol yeah well uhhh 300 votes for Biden." They learned last time is all they have to do is keep counting long enough to "find" hundreds of thousands of votes. They can do this anywhere the governor is a Democrat.

 

[FunPosting101]

What limits? In Detroit, they count votes that don't even exist. Like there are only 100 ballots in the box, and they just say "lol yeah well uhhh 300 votes for Biden." They learned last time is all they have to do is keep counting long enough to "find" hundreds of thousands of votes. They can do this anywhere the governor is a Democrat.

The 2020 election came down to 200,000 votes scattered across specific counties in specific swing states. This fraud only worked because the margin in 2020 was very close. Based on the current polling, and taking into account that most of these polling firms are likely underestimating Trump's actual share of the vote, the margins this time simply won't be close enough for them to fraud Biden/Harris/whoever in again.

Plus, again, Trump's team will be doing ballot harvesting of their own this time around. So they're most likely not going to be able to do what they did in 2020 again. Hence why there's all this panic about Trump right now.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

The 2020 election came down to 200,000 votes scattered across specific counties in specific swing states. This fraud only worked because the margin in 2020 was very close. Based on the current polling, and taking into account that most of these polling firms are likely underestimating Trump's actual share of the vote, the margins this time simply won't be close enough for them to fraud Biden/Harris/whoever in again.

Ain’t enough rainbows on Earth for a statement like this.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

The 2020 election came down to 200,000 votes scattered across specific counties in specific swing states. This fraud only worked because the margin in 2020 was very close. Based on the current polling, and taking into account that most of these polling firms are likely underestimating Trump's actual share of the vote, the margins this time simply won't be close enough for them to fraud Biden/Harris/whoever in again.

I like the optimism, i really do. But this doesnt just come down to paper ballots anymore. Hacking voting machines has been proven to be possible time and time again. While I would love 4 more years of two scoops memes, its going to be a nasty mess.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Biden didn't campaign and was still the most popular politician in world history.

The fact that you can type out this sentence and not have air-raid sirens blaring in your head means you're too short for this ride.

 

[TJT]

The 2020 election came down to 200,000 votes scattered across specific counties in specific swing states. This fraud only worked because the margin in 2020 was very close. Based on the current polling, and taking into account that most of these polling firms are likely underestimating Trump's actual share of the vote, the margins this time simply won't be close enough for them to fraud Biden/Harris/whoever in again.

Plus, again, Trump's team will be doing ballot harvesting of their own this time around. So they're most likely not going to be able to do what they did in 2020 again. Hence why there's all this panic about Trump right now.

Sure, but since there was no downside to 2020 and nobody faced any consequences there is no reason to not push the envelope even further.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

The fact that you can type out this sentence and not have air-raid sirens blaring in your head means you're too short for this ride.

i read it as him being facetious

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

@FunPosting101 the margins will be too great for 2020 level fraud, so they'll have to go even further. They'd have to be even worse than 2022 Arizona levels of fraud, which is technically possible but thankfully even Michigan and Pennsylvania haven't been as bad as that.

I don't think it's as simple as "firing up the ballot printers" because Ron Johnson is someone they definitely were eager to take out in 2022 in Wisconsin but they failed to do so, and they would've liked to take out Burt Jones (alternate elector during Stop the Steal) in Georgia as well. Trump bringing out noncollege working class voters in 2024 (who failed to turn out in 2022) should get him Georgia and Wisconsin if both Burt Jones and Ron Johnson were able to make it. With both GA and WI, he would only need one of the following three MAP states: Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania

Trump is perceived to be much more moderate on abortion than Tudor Dixon and also has more working class cred due to the way he talks and how he demonstrably wasn't a standard Republican while in office. Chomo Joe is also much more unpopular than Gretchen Whitmer. The same polls that had Whitmer way ahead of Dixon in 2022 ALSO have Trump way ahead of joe-n-the-heaux in Michigan for 2024. Whitmer was able to scam enough Trump voters to go for her because of abortion and some other state level issues, but Biden doesn't have that same crossover appeal and as the incumbent in the White House he's functioning as the scapegoat for a lot of people's struggles

Trump will also utilize the quirks of the mail-in system in Arizona more than R's did in 2022 and 2020. On top of that, there were multiple polls in 2022 that had Trump overperforming Kari Lake, partly because Biden is so unpopular that people who said they were voting for Hobbs opted for 3rd party or even Trump (likely because they had an easier time with their finances under Trump). Trump has crossover appeal to people who normally vote D (for gibs) because their financial struggles were not as bad under Trump. Those same people see chomo joe as someone who makes life harder for them, not someone who has improved their material wealth

Much of what I said previously also applies to Pennsylvania. Trump has a lot more working class cred than Dr. Oz, and Fetterman had more appeal to those voters than chomo joe. chomo joe being in the White House is a major disadvantage because people blame the 'president' much more for their hard times rather than lieutenant governors, secretary of state, and even their actual governors (they also blame the president more than House Reps and Senators). Lots of 2022 Democrats successfully distanced themselves from biden -- for instance, Senator Maggie Hassan in 2022 spammed the airwaves with ads of her in front of the border wall making herself look MAGA-ish. Much harder for Biden to exploit that strategy because people view him as the cause, not really their Senators and House Reps

in a nutshell: Trump will win over much more noncollege working class voters than 2022 R's did, partly because he has more appeal than they did and also because they turn out more in Presidential years than in midterms and also because he'll use ballot harvesting to his advantage. These millions of extra voters who didn't show up in 2022 will go a long way towards making it harder for the Dems to commit the extra fraud needed.

anyway I'm currently being accused of cumming in Rachael Antier Slick aka AellaGirl at her 32nd birthday party gangbang simply because I was bored one night and joked that I was accepted to her gangbang despite never having set foot outside of the east coast, so I'm going to be away for a bit until the smearjob dies down

 

[Odd Opossum]

The 2020 election came down to 200,000 votes scattered across specific counties in specific swing states. This fraud only worked because the margin in 2020 was very close. Based on the current polling, and taking into account that most of these polling firms are likely underestimating Trump's actual share of the vote, the margins this time simply won't be close enough for them to fraud Biden/Harris/whoever in again.

Plus, again, Trump's team will be doing ballot harvesting of their own this time around. So they're most likely not going to be able to do what they did in 2020 again. Hence why there's all this panic about Trump right now.

When this "logic" crashes and burns like it did back in 2020, do yourself a favor and don't join any PM chains to hide in.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

anyway I'm currently being accused of cumming in Rachael Antier Slick aka AellaGirl at her 32nd birthday party gangbang simply because I was bored one night and joked that I was accepted to her gangbang despite never having set foot outside of the east coast, so I'm going to be away for a bit until the smearjob dies down

did you really need to add these details?

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Not going to link it until I see a source more...uh...reliable but it looks like Letitia James may have been embezzling campaign funds much like our girl Fani.

 

[Weppers]

I wonder if we're going to see one counting facility just clam up and refuse to release its results for weeks. People coming out every six hours to say gee shucks, aww whiz we're doin' our best in here but the election is still not over and we're going to count every vote, right up until January 19th. Then they try and report that their county with 800,000 people in it cast 2 million votes for Biden.

 

[Sniperwoof]

I expect one of two things to happen

1 - the election will drag on for weeks with new totals and ballot dumps being "found" every few days until Biden narrowly overcomes Trump by 100,000 votes or so.

2- States will call for Biden extremely early like at 5% of the vote and they will refuse to provide any further information and anyone who objects will be censored/arrested.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

I don't buy into the second steal doomerism. Very gay, and the media would not be in it's current panic if it thought it could get away with it a second time.

 

[ZMOT]

I read this while taking a shit and it felt appropiate somehow

now I finally get this song

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

When this "logic" crashes and burns like it did back in 2020, do yourself a favor and don't join any PM chains to hide in.

i bet you're an alt account of that autist with the fat guy avatar, I can't recall the specific username

also it's well known that people on various forums do PM chains all the time. creating drama out of nothing from that post nov 2020 PM chain was ridiculous

did you really need to add these details?

it would explain why I'm laying low if I decide to lay low

 

[babadook]

i bet you're an alt account of that autist with the fat guy avatar, I can't recall the specific username

Liquid something something

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I'd recommend switching away from archive.is, since they get stuck in a captcha loop on a lot of Chromium-based browsers right now.

Actually, now it seems to be working perfectly on Google Chrome, but shitting the bed completely on Firefox-based Waterfox. Interestingly, it works without issue on Firefox itself.

Anyway, news:

https://archive.is/p4Dqa

https://archive.ph/8KPDg