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What do you get when you mix the creepiness and coombrain of Kevin Gibes with the BPD and polyamory craziness of Becky Gerber, toss in some crazy and persistent sex pestery, child abuse, dial it up to 100, and be sure to air it all out across every social media platform resulting in the loss of your career? You get Poppy (legal name Jessica Routhier, aka Brice Routhier, deadname Joshua Routhier).
This is a long OP, but if you want a quick rundown here’s a tl;dr:
Poppy is a polyamorous, hypersexual, transgender therapist and YouTube streamer with severe untreated (or unmanaged) BPD and identifies as plural. In December 2023, she was dumped by her discord girlfriend, Noehflake, of four months.
Poppy has continued to use her social media and community to harass and spread the lie that she was raped instead of dumped. This behavior has gone on longer than the actual relationship and shows no sign of stopping.
As a result of her insane behavior on social media, Poppy has lost her job, her Whiteleaf website, over 3 dozen friends, several partners, and 1000s of YouTube subscribers.
Additionally, former friends, acquaintances, and partners have come forward to share stories of sexual harassment, emotional abuse, grooming, unwanted sexual advances and harassment; there are hours of YouTube streams and several google documents hundreds of pages long documenting her behavior.
Her own adult child has even come forward to discuss and document the abuse they suffered at the hands of Poppy and primarily her partner, Zena.
Poppy has continued to use her social media and community to harass and spread the lie that she was raped instead of dumped. This behavior has gone on longer than the actual relationship and shows no sign of stopping.
As a result of her insane behavior on social media, Poppy has lost her job, her Whiteleaf website, over 3 dozen friends, several partners, and 1000s of YouTube subscribers.
Additionally, former friends, acquaintances, and partners have come forward to share stories of sexual harassment, emotional abuse, grooming, unwanted sexual advances and harassment; there are hours of YouTube streams and several google documents hundreds of pages long documenting her behavior.
Her own adult child has even come forward to discuss and document the abuse they suffered at the hands of Poppy and primarily her partner, Zena.
Update 07/07/25: I’ve made some changes to the below. Almost every partner or friend mentioned here except Zena, Annie Gallagher, Liana Kerzner and a handful of nobodies on their discord have abandoned Poppy & Zena. Poppy also claims to no longer be polyamorous but rather “ethically non-monogamous” and exclusively does not date transwomen.
Some of the stories below have been recanted or disavowed. I’ve struck them out or noted the updates.
Intros
Joshua Routhier (born June 16, 1981), legally Jessica Routhier, known online as Poppy is a 42 year old licensed
Poppy’s decision to have amhole surgery came about after a night of reading lesbian manga porn (no I’m not kidding).
According to his twitter bio, he has BPD and OSDD (he identifies as plural); he is also a furry with his fursona being a hyena because female hyenas have a “psuedopenis”. His "headmates" are Penny, a tiger/shark hybrid that is "a young girl" which has its' own twitter account, @PennyDiabolique, and Pepper, a tiger/spider hybrid that is "canonically 12-14 years old" who occassionally posted on her NSFW twitter account, @LadyDiabolique with either a peppermint or hot pepper emoji.
He operates two other twitter accounts, @ZenaAndPoppy, which is the main account for their YouTube channel and @Real_Poppy_D, his "SFW" account.
The Poppycule (AKA Poppy’s Enablers)
Zena or ZZ (legal name Lauren Jasenak) is in her late 20s / early 30s and her only real claim to fame prior to being the long term fiancé of a sex pest was that she was fired from working as a counselour at a Scout camp for being a lesbian. (A) She does not work, and claims to have a myriad of disablities, including migraines, uncontrollable PMDD, IBS and is gluten free. She is also non-binary; the only evidence for this is she takes testosterone and dyes her hair every other week.
Update: I did find them, Zena is a chaser and abuser of women:
When she is on stream, she is usually quiet and reserved. She is usually also sewing, knitting or coloring while Poppy discusses topics, with Zena occassionally throwing in a "Yup" once in a while. However, based on several former moderators (A), Poppy's child (A) and others, Zena is extremely domineering, abusive and manipulative behind the scenes. Despite being together with Poppy the longest, they constantly fight.
The fights are not limited to arguments. Several ex partners and ex members of the foundation have described their fights being physical, with Poppy and Zena physically assaulting each other.
She also tends to weaponize her PMDD, claiming she has no idea when it will start, and she is unable to control her emotions during it, despite that being 100% bogus.
She does not have a twitter but does post occasionally on Bluesky.
Poppy’s next addition to the polycule was Saige Alexis Saige was the second longest relationship Poppy has had besides Zena. Saige also streams regularly, though at much lower view counts and engagement than Zena and Poppy. She lives in southern Indiana, and will occassionally go visit them in eastern Michigan. She works at Starbucks. Saige, like Poppy, also allegedly has BPD and is plural and is also a MTF. She also pays for Twitter but hides it. (A). Saige is not known for brevity; her explanations around the situations below are hundreds of pages of long or are hours long streams.
The relationship, based on Saige's twitter account, has not been all roses and sunshine. Saige’s (now former) friends have said that she was likely abused (emotionally) by Poppy & Zena. Unfortunately, she has apparently become part of the problem. (A) She’ll also post photos saying how hot she is and then spiral a day later saying how ugly she is.
Poppy had a real life Principal Skinner moment of reflection about his habit of having a revolving door of partners and him being the common denominator.
While he is polyamorous, Poppy does not like it when his partners have partners of their own, and will try to manipulate them by saying their partners are toxic and abusive, and threatening suicide if he hears about any intimacy.
Poppy and Sexuality
The incel to tranny pipeline in action once again
His gender identity is "succubian". He has used this as an excuse for unwanted sexual advances. (A). He also identifies as hyper sexual. While there is nothing wrong with enjoying sex or talking about sex, Poppy is obsessed with sex and will insert it into any conversation he can. He also has zero concept of boundaries and takes it as a personal slight when others tell him no. He also does not understand social norms and thinks he is being rape/pedo jacketed or a victim of transmisogny (FULL STOP) because others don’t appreciate furry ass in their face 24/7. His partners in the polycule tolerate and often excuse / minimize his behavior.
When Buck Angel asked what Trans Joy was, this was his answer:
He admitted on stream that he was banned from a Renaissance Faire because he fingered a woman on the dance floor (Zena tries to minimize the incident by saying Poppy wears his heart on his sleeve).
When his child escaped, he admitted his most concerning thought was that his kid might take his gofundme amhole surgery money, which he needed because he “didn’t wanted to get turned on in public because a partner sent me a spicy pic”.
He also does not understand why sending nudes to someone during work hours unsolicited is a bad thing or for sexually soliciting their partners on twitter.
He discovered that he is a “Little” after Assigned Male posted a helpful comic about it.
His now deleted F-List (A) had some peculiar kinks, especially around incest (both sibling and parent/child). His preferred age range is 14-45. He also seems to be ok with incest in real life.
One of Poppy’s worst qualities is that he does not like being told no in regards to sex.
When a random 23 year old posted about sucking dick, Poppy said he was interested. The poster said gross and blocked him, which caused Poppy to have a severe meltdown.
It’s not the first time he randomly solicited someone for sex on Twitter.
When minors objected to seeing semi nude furry smut on the server. He disagreed, and his partner Saige (acting as a Discord mod) stepped in and agrees with Poppy. They both recently doubled down on this, and accused anyone who disagreed with them of “pedojacketing”.
When he was having an erotic furry roleplay, the other furry was uncomfortable and stopped the scene. Poppy whined about it on twitter and the furry called him out on it.
He also does not understand what safe for work means. For example, he thinks that the below character reference sheet that has a censor bar over a crotch and talk of vaginas secreting hallucinogenic liquid is sfw.
Oh and by the way, all women think about being fucked and bred, so if you think otherwise, you’re the deranged one
On Being “Plural”
For the uninitiated, plural or pluralism is an online phenomenon where a person identifies as having multiple personalities. Unlike Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID aka Multiple Personality Disorder), alternate personalities are not the result of extreme childhood trauma. In other words, you can create as many or as few personalities as you want, and the end goal isn’t uniting the personalities; in fact, some people think it’s fun and quirky to have their alters interact; there is even a discord bot that allows you to switch between your alters.
Most people who are plural are Zoomers on TikTok who create new alters whenever a new filter drops. There is an entire wiki devoted to plurality and “systems” (the collection of alters that inhabit your body).
Tl;dr, it’s another way to look cool and different on the internet.
Originally, Poppy identified as having DID, and he used to wear the door symbol from Howl's Moving Castle to show who was fronting. A troll posted this to r/fakedisordercringe, which Poppy found out about and crabbed about on his stream. He has subsequently identified as plural.
His daughter mentioned that Poppy only identified as plural a few months before she moved out (A), which would have been in in early 2023. This was after she thought she herself was plural, which Poppy vehemently disagreed with.
His headmates usually come out when he is talking to another friend/partner in private, and the other person says something that Poppy doesn't agree with. He also uses a separate twitter account to speak as Penny.
"Penny" is usually more argumentative. As you will see later on, she is prone to yelling and screaming at others during very serious matters as “Penny”.
"Pepper" tries to manipulate others by being an uwu "why wont you wuv me mommy" child. Pepper allegedly hasn’t been seen since December 2023, as “Penny” claims she cannot be found.
Saige, desperate for attention, also "discovered" she was plural in December 2023, and has an alter named Cerise. She will talk to hesrself as Cerise on Twitter, and she will usually reserve her nastiest insults for when she is posting as Cerise.
Although Poppy frequently touts their training and knowledge of the DSM-5, being plural is not a recognized disorder by any major psychological association or the DSM (in fact when one psychologist tried to say it was fake, he was harassed so much by tween tiktokers that most psychologists refuse to discuss it one way or the other).
BPD and Control in Relationships
The borderline personality disorder (BPD) is definitely real, as you will see later on. Poppy falls hard for crushes/acquantances. With his last major relationship, which lasted all of four months, he claims to have made their girlfriend an authorized user on their credit card early in the relationship, he wanted to move in with them after two months, (a) and bought gifts for them that they didn't want.
Some of the claims are exaggerations or outright lies, made to make his ex look even worse. In the case of the credit card, it turns out he didn’t read the fine print and is mad that he couldn’t get a refund after buying a ticket for his ex.
When things inevitably go south, he will publicly demand money back and talk shit about you on his twitter accounts or during his livestreams until a new partner is found.
Poppy is also extremely manipulative and controlling in his relationships, romantic, sexual, platonic or otherwise. He has had no problem revealing his ex's legal name to his audience and filing a police report against them, but when the ex called his place of work to tell him to cut that shit out, Poppy will say he is fearing for his life. He also belives he can "fix" asexual people, and he enjoys playing the "I'm not your therapist but..." game to diagnose people who arent his patients. With his last ex, Poppy tried to convince them they also have BPD and that taking more HRT would improve their libido.
He also has a habit of trying to get his trans partners to get amhole surgery.
Early History
Prior to becoming an internet lolcow, Poppy grew up in Michigan. He has said that he was a victim of sexual assault as a child. He also apparently tells stories of how he also sexually abused a family member when he was a teenager. (A) (a2)
Poppy was married in 2000ish to another woman, who was pregnant with another man's child. He claims he was groomed into a straight relationship, and refers to his child as "someone".
Unfortunately, in 2004, his wife died as a result of a horseback riding accident, caused by a loose pitbull running into the street and spooking the horse she was riding.(A)
According to Poppy, after his wife passed, he "picked up a random goth chick [he] met at a Ren Fair because she was hot and needed someone in [his] bed now that he wasn't married". According to his kid, this goth chick was very abusive to the kid, followed by two who were ok, then another one who was abusive before finally settling on Zena. (A)
In 2021, Poppy began the channel, titled TransGirlTherapist with a two minute intro in front of a messy bedroom. The channel focused mainly on therapy and topical trans issues. Where they started getting large numbers of views is when they interacted with fellow lolcow Lily Orchard. There's a whole thread about Lily which you can visit if you want, but the two had a falling out and Poppy would continuously cover this. I have been unable to discern what the falling out was, but apparently it was because Lily blocked Poppy on Twitter.
Apparently, much of the art, music and style of her channel is stolen wholesale from Lily Orchard's channel. He also started the Discord Server around this time, which was about as dramatic as the channel got. His streams also used to start with barely censored NSFW art of his furry characters and of Poppy pleasuring himself, but these have since been removed.
A few words about the Discord server. It is 13+, although some areas are age-gated. When you join, you have to pick your age range (13-18, 18-22, 22+) and pronouns. Upon entry you are given "Safe" status, where most of the users reside. There is a caste system where you can move up in role and gain more access, such as NSFW content and voice chat. The roles are named after classes from the online alternate reality SCP Foundation. The relationship is in name only as there is nothing that the server has to do with the actual SCP Foundation. In order to gain access to Euclid (a step above "Safe") you have to fill out an application that Poppy and Zena admit they never read. Access to higher levels is based on whether you are a moderator or if you have had intimate relations with Poppy. The "Safe" areas are heavily moderated, and any mention of Poppy's enemies, former love interests, or any kind of discourse results in an immediate ban from the discord. Poppy has also been known to show risque, definitely NSFW content in areas where minors are. When said minors have said that they objected to this, Poppy tells them to get over it. He has recently doubled down saying anyone who has a problem with him showing half naked hyenas in thongs to minors who do not consent are puritanical clowns. (A)
An ex-member has written a long Substack article arguing how Poppy & Zena’s discord server functions as a cult.
Poppy’s descent into airing personal drama began when he posted a video entitled "Yes. Posting The Name She Practices Under is Pretty Darn Close to Doxxing Jess." (A)
In it, he brings up, umprompted, allegations from his ex-girlfriend, someone he dated before he met Zena. He doesn't specifically deny any of them (specifically that he demanded access to their girlfriend's phone, monitored their social media usage, etc.), but the original tweet (A)had little to no interaction and probably wouldn't have been a thing. But Poppy's ego is his downfall, and he claimed that KiwiFarms was gone so it was okay to post about it, inadvertently doxxing himself in the process as although he didn't show the tweets in question, he mentioned it had the #transigrltherapist hashtag, which only 3 tweets on twitter have, and one of the other hashtags was his legal name. He also posted a video about a discord date he had where the other person blocked him because Poppy was sending nudes to her while she was at work and didn't want to have non stop erotic roleplay.
Another tidbit that came out of this was that when he was operating under the twitter handle of @TGirlTherapist, Poppy had a fling with BimboPolitics aka Laurelei Bailey. Although in one video about Ana Mardoll he denies that Bimbo was Laurelei, former mods have confirmed that they dated despite Poppy knowing Laurelei's history. Many of these interactions happened on his previous twitter account, @TGirlTherapist, which was suspended. It is unknown what was the cause for suspension but this does mean that all of Poppy's twitter accounts are technically operating under ban evasion.
The First Drama Arc
[2025 edit: Saige has recanted the statements below and has agreed that her friends acted in her best interest given Poppy & Zenas abuse. This is staying up for historical purposes]In spring of 2023, Saige made two suicide attempts. According to Saige (A), when she made an attempt and posted about it on twitter, several moderators from the Discord and one of the members of the polycule took action by calling her family and getting him to a hospital. This action caused Poppy and Zena to excommunicate the mods for not telling them directly that Saige was in danger. One mod did message Poppy to say Saige was not doing well, but Poppy didn't bother to respond until a day later.
The tl;dr of all this is that Saige was being abused and ignored by Poppy and Zena and attempted suicide, and anyone with two brain cells knew this, so the mods/former friends who rescued Saige from her attempt deliberately left Zena and Poppy out of the loop. In fact, Zena and Poppy’s first reaction when Saige returned was for Zena to claim it was for attention. As a licensed therapist, Poppy decided the best course of action was to LARP as a shark and yell at people in discord.
Also, one of these mods (who is also a former Poppycule member) allegedly sexually assaulted Saige by masturbating during a video call (apparently Saige forgot there is an End Call button). While creepy as fuck, according to Saige there was no nudity involved and this person was one of many hyper sexual “paramours” in the Poppycule. Saige has referred to this incident as a sexual assault.
This ex/mod is friends with people who are calling out Poppy on his abusive behavior, so if you call out Poppy on abusive behavior, you are a rape apologist (I’m not lying, this is Saige’s train of thought).
Also in spring, his adult child moved out. According to Poppy in a now paywalled video, (but archived on tumblr) the child (online nickname of Spawn said they were going out for the day, and literally escaped out their window with luggage. The kid also emptied out a trust fund that was in their name that was set up after their mom died. Poppy's response in discussing this on stream was to run to the bank to make sure none of his money was taken, as he didn't want to lose his GFM money for amhole surgery (this would later be proven to be a lie as the kid went to the bank under demands by Poppy and Zena to remove their name from Poppy's accounts; TK is the kid in the screenshot).
The kid came back to remove the rest of their stuff sometime afterward, which Zena also made into a drama.
While most parents would be absolutely devastated that their child left and wanted no further contact, Zena and Poppy reacted by making the kid's room into their streaming studio several days later.
Also discussed on the stream was an ex named Milena (real name unknown, upper 30’s). There aren’t many screengrabs / archives of the following (you’ll see why shortly).
Milena was a previous partner of Poppy’s. Poppy fell hard and quick for Milena, as within days Milena became an official partner of the polycule. Milena apparently had fights with Zena. The straw that broke the camels back was when Milena told Poppy she was going to see one of her partners (reminder, Poppy dates polyamorous people but does not like when they have their own dates).
When she was referred to as the “psychotic ex”, Milena made a large callout thread detailing the craziness of Poppy and Zena. The callout thread itself wasn't that interesting. It did reveal that Zena wasn't the uwu non-binary bunny wunny she portrays on stream. The rest of the documentation shows that Poppy does not like when he can't be 100% in control, and he is prone to lashing out at his editing team (whom he doesnt pay).
As a follow-up on Milena, she went on to document many of the craziness of both Poppy and Zena, calling them abusive hypocrites, stating her intention to completely de-platform them. However, in early 2024, Poppy extended an olive branch, and the two have apparently resolved their differences. (A)
Suprise! Milena actually trolled Poppy by pretending to go back to him, writing out future documents (notably the one about Poppy’s kid), and leaking many discord logs, exposing actual crimes committed by Poppy (such as unauthorized access to medical records).
The Courtney Orchard Saga
Also around this time, Poppy and Zena met Courtney Orchard, Lily Orchard's sister. I'm very unfamliar with Lily Orchard, but Courtney has alleged that Lily sexually abused her as a child. (A) She reached out to Poppy and Zena to tell her story, along with a couple other tumblr folks who were also anti-Lily Orchard fans.
The first interview was full of weird asides, such as Poppy boasting he is hotter than Lily, which is honestly like saying diarrhea is preferable to vomit. He also kept making sexual allusions, which is jarring when you're discussing a serious topic of child abuse with someone who was abused.
After the first interview, Poppy asked Courtney if she was interested in the furry fandom. She responded in the affirmative, so Poppy thought it was a good idea to send her furry incest porn featuring an underage brother and sister.
Courtney also alleges that around the time Poppy was getting armhole surgery, Poppy would send her unwanted photos of his “progress”.
Poppy and Zena also wanted to help Courtney start a discord server. For "security purposes", Poppy said there should be age ranges of Under 18, 18-22, and 22+, with the roles really meaning "do not flirt", "flirt with caution" or "flirt away" respectively. (A) Courtney started to disagree with Poppy, which is a big no-no in P&Z land, and she eventually deleted the work Z&P had done for the discord server, pissing them off. Poppy then decided to release a timeline of his falling out with Courtney to those "close to the situation". By close to the situation, he meant his mod team, a group of thirty people in one of the special classes in his own discord server, and to a random fan with whom Poppy was having an erotic roleplay with, and probably many others.
When Courtney found out, she threatened to come to Poppy's house and beat him up for having her nudes and telling others she had them.
Poppy took this as "doxing" and "violence", and both groups had a falling out; he was also mad that someone leaked the timeline, but never apologized for the things he said or for sending it to everyone he wanted to have sex with.
As a result, a group of tumblr users started flooding tumblr with the ZenaAndPoppy tags with the stories of the fallout, making Tumblr completely unusable for Poppy and friends. The PopppyAndZena tumblr has a google drive and archives of many of the stories featured in this OP.
Also, his F-List was discovered where he listed Incest (Parent-Child) and Incest (Sibling) as her go-to fetishes, interracial as a no (lol), and that his preferred ages were between 14-45. This was posted by a minor who was previously in the Foundation. Poppy has harassed this person, and he is under the belief that every anti P&Z account is him as well. Another more in depth post is here. (A) The original F-list has been deleted and the original archive was taken down, likely after Poppy complained.
Finally, all of Poppy & Zena’s previous unedited livestreams are paywalled for the low low price of $25.99 a month. This is allegedly to prevent “clip-chimping” (the practice of taking a streamer and quoting them verbatim). However, the streams are available for free for five days after they air.(A)
The NoehFlake Saga
In August/September, Poppy started dating a trans woman Hayleigh Fletcher aka @NoehFlake (Noeh or NF) aka The Moth. Noeh is also a MTF, plural and autistic. She quickly became Poppy's favorite person (FP), a term that is apparently used in BPD, meaning that this person is who gets all the attention, good or bad, from a BPD person. The relationship was extremely one-sided, with Poppy constantly posting about his love for Noeh on twitter despite barely knowing her. Noeh identifies as asexual, and told Poppy when they first started dating, despite Poppy saying otherwise. Also at this time, Saige was posting extremely disturbing and suicidal twitter posts, which Poppy ignored.
Noeh was also in a polyamourous relationship. She had at least two partners at the time she was dating Poppy. Poppy was extremely jealous of this, and at one point, sent an unhinged letter as one of his alters to one of the partners demanding that they block all four of Poppy's twitter accounts because Poppy might commit suicide otherwise. (A) Poppy forced Noeh to break up with her partner because of this, which Noeh said she did. Later on, Noeh quote tweeted the (ex)girlfriend, and when Poppy saw it, he went ballistic.
At some point, Poppy rented a hotel room to spend Christmas with Noeh (Zena also tagged along). On December 21, 2023, right before the hotel rendezvous, Noeh broke up with him as a result of Poppy's jealousy around Noeh's partners.
Given that they were supposed to leave to see him the next day, Poppy and Zena guilted Noeh into giving Poppy another chance and not breaking up with him. After a lot of arguing, Noeh relented and Poppy and Zena drove 500 miles to upstate New York to the hotel.
What happened next depends on who you ask. What is definitely known is that Noeh and Poppy had some sort of sexual encounter (Zena was in the same room and apparently was sleeping during all of this, or was in the bathroom, lol). Poppy has listed explicit details of what happened, all of which are gross, but he is a very unreliable narrator. Afterward, Noeh left and broke up with Poppy for good, blocking him on Twitter.
It was later leaked on Twitter what happened following the breakup. The leaked messages are below but in summary:
- Poppy blames Noeh for ruining his Christmas, says he’s never loved anyone as much as he’s loved Noeh despite knowing her for 4 months, and that she has to fix things NOW.
- Poppy, a 42 year old, was apparently on his hands and knees in the hotel room begging Noeh, a person he had just met in person and known online for four months, to stay and not leave.
- Noeh acknowledges she could’ve done things better and apologizes for the way things turned out, but Poppy’s abusive behavior turned her off. She also says both of them were to blame for the relationship going south but Poppy refuses to take any responsibility for his role while Noeh does.
- Poppy roleplays as his 12 year old headmate to try to further guilt Noeh into staying.
Noeh did not call out Poppy on twitter or reveal any information about the breakup, although Poppy decided to have a months long (and going ) meltdown across social media.
Oh and for clarification, it wasn’t a UTI. He got bacterial vaginosis. Do better y’all.
After the initial disappointment, Poppy went through a few phases. First he tried convincing himself of being better off without her in his life, and how it was really NF's loss that she was no longer with Poppy. Then, after talking with a friend that totally exists, Poppy believes he was sexually assaulted, but would get mad if people said he was crying rape. Of course, Poppy now has a pinned post tagging NF saying that he was raped by NF, which links to a document written by a self-admitted pedophile Annie Gallagher (A)
How and why this person became involved is unknown. They are banned from Twitter and Bluesky due to being a pedo. They claimed they were tricked by a minor into abusing them, and that they were also tricked into being a pedophile (A). They also complain about children “weaponizing their age” to cause harm. In fact, Poppy and Zena are so aware of this persons predilection for children that Annie is banned from the underage part of their discord server
Poppy's reasoning behind the rape allegation has gone through multiple evolutions. The current understanding is that because Noeh just wasn’t that into him during sex, that Poppy was essentially raped by deception. Poppy’s argument is that he would not have had consented to having sex if he knew Noeh wasn’t as enthusiastic about it as he was.
His latest argument however was that saying he was sexually assaulted didn’t get enough attention, so he decided to say rape instead.
He has also said that because of his BPD and pluralism, he is mentally ill and unable to consent, for which he was promptly mocked.
He started flooding all of his twitter accounts with accusations of rape, telling everybody and anybody that his ex was a rapist. He also has said that while it technically wasn’t rape, the feelings he experienced were tantamount to rape, so his ex is 100% a rapist. He demanded all of his true followers repost the below image:
He also got in leagues with a grifter named Liana Kerzner. Liana is one of the few actual women involved in all of this. You may have heard of her before; she became (in)famous during GamerGate for a rift she had with Anita Sarkeesian. (A). According to @PastaPimp969 , she may be deserving of her own thread given some of her histrionics. Liana has a past in which she used kickstarter money for a failed tv show to fund lawsuits filed against her (A), and she also nearly drove another trans woman to suicide because of her harassment (A).
Liana is not a therapist (she literally hosts a podcast called “It’s Not Therapy” and the main tagline is “I’m Not a Therapist) but because she has a large following and is validating Poppy's delusions (a), she is being held as a source of authority for Poppy’s mental health and statements. According to Poppy, Liana interviewed him and Zena about his “rape” for a podcast segment (A).
The defamation has gone on since the December breakup and has gone on almost daily since. To give you an example of how batshit insane it all is, here is an archive of just ONE afternoon of tweets harassing his ex and detractors.
The Reckoning
Poppy's behavior caused a deluge of people who have been wronged by Poppy to come out with their own stories of abuse/harassment suffered. Poppy has said each individual is lying, jealous, clout seeking, money hungry or mad that he dumped them (allegedly). Any screenshots, testimony, evidence, concerns about his behavior or receipts are out of context, clip chimping, optics frogging or a combo of the above and any other debate bro buzzwords.
Dormiyu (18-19 years old; real name unknown; allegedly female) aka The Dog, who does not identify as human, went to visit Poppy and Zena while their partner was away. While she was there , Poppy decided (shocker!) to be a creep and a shitty host. Dormiyu slept in Poppy’s office, which he occupied from 11am until 5-6am everyday, so she only got 5/6 hours of a sleep a day.
One day, Poppy came into the room she was staying in without pants on. She looked away, and Poppy made fun of her for her "weird asexual bullshit". Later on, when she was working at a desk, Poppy walked in topless and sat next to her at the desk diagonal from her, waiting for her to turn around. When she was shocked at seeing her topless, both Poppy and Zena made fun of her.
Poppy, pictured by Dormiyu, sitting at his heckin’ valid coom throne.
Zena, Poppy and Saige will harass Dormiyu for being disgusted at seeing Poppy’s gross manboobs.
Both Saige and Poppy have allegedly doxed Dormiyu at certain times (Poppy in a tweet and Saige on stream).
Further, Poppy and his defenders rewrite Dormiyu’s story: they claim that it only happened accidentally and Poppy is entitled to walk around naked in his home when guests are visiting, that Dormiyu is a misogynist, and that Poppy’s hypersexuality and troonery is a get out of jail free card. When discussing it on stream, on Twitter, or in the below article, they will merge details from both incidents to portray Dormiyu as overreacting to Poppy just looking for clothes in his Joe.
One of Noeh's friends, Fae, reached out to Poppy directly to get his side of the story. (A) She leaked the messages showing that Poppy begged Noeh to not breakup with him and guilted him over the hotel costs. She also showed how Poppy would get mad at Noeh for not articulating his boundaries loud enough, but when he did set a boundary, Poppy talked him out of it.
Gayfesh, aka The Fish, one of the now former friends of P&Z and a fellow streamer, called out Poppy as well. This has probably been the single most devastating loss to Poppy, Zena and Saige since the drama began, given their collective harassment of him since he dropped his callout.
Gayfesh is a streamer who used to be friends with P&Z. He apparently is present on other stream channels and discords.
He revealed that most of the moderation team for the discord knew this was a doomed relationship, and that they were all yelled at by Poppy for not standing up for him and parroting the rape allegations.
He tried to get them to stop posting craziness on Twitter as they didn't have any goals in mind for what they wanted to accomplish by tarring Noeh's name. However, Zena mocked the idea of even having a goal in mind so they kept going.
Eventually, Poppy posted a Yale law review article that supposedly backed up his claim that what Noeh did was rape by deception. However, when people actually sat down and read the full article, it actually argues AGAINST Poppy’s argument. When GayFesh told Poppy this, he said he didn't care that he was wrong and yelled at him for talking back.
He has slowly been releasing information about his relationship with these people. For example, he revealed that he had to cover for Poppy when he accidentally leaked a client’s first name in a twitter group chat (a) (thanks @ÁchtunaRoll )
Poppy, Zena and Saige refer to him as the "Clout fish", and they are convinced he is making all sorts of money on his revelations and his info dumps. Saige also likes to create burner accounts to further harass Fesh as he has them all blocked. Saige (i'm sorry, Saige's alter "Cerise", Saige had previously defended him) accuse him of being a tranny chaser.
Around this time, Milena also released that she has been in contact with Poppy's kid since October 2023. The kid is obviously very upset about the situation, lamenting "I miss the time when my mom still loved me". The kid is AFAB, 23, and only 5'1" 80lb, and suffers from a cardiovascular disorder. According to Milena, the kid shared over 3800 messages from Signal that were sent between Poppy, Zena and the kid. Only a handful have been released so far, which mainly disprove Poppy's allegation that he had to run to the bank to save his money from being stolen. They also show that Zena is quite nasty in conversation (TK is Poppy’s kid)
Milena alleged that future doc drops would also have shown how Poppy and Zena withheld food from the kid, made the kid work 8-11hr days as their personal slave to the point of exhaustion, and then made fun of them for being exhausted. The only reaction this information got from P&Z was that Zena was mad at being misgendered because Milena called her "sweetie".
A few furry artists were also caught up by Poppy's drama. One artist drew a picture of Poppy's character as Pennywise the clown, both NSFW and SFW. Poppy apparently shared the NSFW in his discord server with minors, and the artist blocked him and refused to take up any more commissions for Poppy, calling him a groomer.(A)
The Ruadhan situation was especially cruel. Ruadhan was homeless (they appear to have some housing now) whose main source of income is Patreon, ko-fi and cashapp.
Ruadhan was in a hotel in Michigan. He streamed online about the drama, and mentioned that he had seen Poppy in passing, and that Poppy lived nearby, using only the city from Poppy’s gofundme.
Poppy went nuts, saying this was real time doxing and to report his sources of income
As you can see, he knows he’s not being doxed, but wants a homeless persons source of income removed anyway because he was calling him out on his bullshit.
He also pissed off Saige for calling him out on his headmate nonsense and his inconsistencies on blocking folx.
Poppy's behavior has also resulted in his employer, Red Cedar Counseling, to receive complaints about his behavior and even some of his clients have dumped him as a result of finding out.
Noeh also filed a complaint directly with his employer, and Poppy responded by harassing him more on Twitter. Poppy has been vague posting as well that his boss wants him to give up this online stuff or risk losing his job.
He didn’t heed the warnings, and he was fired on March 1, 2024. Given that he has no job, it is expected that the harassment will only increase. It was revealed later on that the actual reason was that Poppy’s boss gave an ultimatum: give up the streaming biz, stop tweeting (a) and focus on your actual work. Poppy thought this was too extreme, and a violation of his civil liberties (again, I am not kidding) (a).
For reference, Poppy hasnt streamed since mid
Finally, Poppy’s kid has come forward and has been answering questions about their abusive upbringing. So far, they have described:
-Poppy used to spank them growing up, but stopped at some point.
-Poppy dated a person who abused his kid but stuck with that person anyway.
-The kid has POTs, a cardiovascular disorder (thanks for the proofread QP/Heloise). They are susceptible to heat and hunger. The adult kid is 5’1” and weighs 80lbs. When the a/c went out they passed out. When they asked Poppy to fix it he snapped at them saying he and Zena were suffering too. They almost passed out during vacuuming, and ended up sleeping in the dogs bed and being yelled at.
-they were restricted from using the internet for the last three months they lived with them. They had to go to the library to use the internet. They used this to her advantage to escape. Poppy admitted this was true, saying it wasn’t that big of a deal since his child could still use a mobile hotspot instead.
Poppy has claimed that his child is the true abuser on Twitter.
The “abuse” was not doing chores to Poppy and Zena’s satisfaction:
The full extent of the abuse was released in a 200+ page google document full of text messages, spreadsheets and discord messages. It is a very difficult read showing months of abuse, including restricted bathroom usage, restricted kitchen usage, internet usage, and that Zena was the main abuser.
However, Poppy cares more about the “son” he adopted from Lily Orchard:
Meet Shiloh - a fat 27 year old pooner from Portland. Poppy refers to her as his "based and boypilled son". She used to be one of Lily Orchard's orbiters and drew bestiality porn, but is now groomed and under Poppy's thumb. Poppy “adopted” her when he was interviewing Courtney Orchard. He apparently wanted to adopt Courtney as well, but decided he wanted to fuck her instead (A). Poppy has said more loving things about this weirdo than his own child (if you can call the below loving):
She has begged for money via Ko-Fi, which Saige has given money to several times but Poppy has only done once.
Shiloh abandoned Poppy in April 2024 after it was revealed he never read any of the documents, and was only going on Poppy’s word alone.
The Poppy and Zena Cinematic Universe (PZCU)
Besides Lily Orchard, Poppy has had a few other crossovers with other lolcows.Brianna Wu
In 2023, Brianna Wu gave $100 to his GFM for amhole surgery.
Poppy later tried to defend Wu when his group DMs were leaked. Apparently as long as you give Poppy money you can be enbyphobic.
Tipster & Bowblax
In July 2023, Tipster liked one of Poppy’s creepy sex posts. (A) Poppy flipped out when Bowblax called both of them out.
Ana Mardoll
In fall 2022, he covered the Ana Mardoll drama. He compared the "harassment" Ana faced to Laurelei's situation a couple times, and tried to minimize the fact that Ana was wealthier than she led on.Chris-Chan
When Chris Chan was arrested, he covered the topic. During the video, he gets a bunch of information wrong about Chris and yells at his followers when they tell him hes wrong. He also refuses to believe that Chris is faking being trans, even though he has admitted it several times.Keffals
In 2023, Keffals also donated to Poppy's GFM. Keffals also came onto Poppy’s stream to briefly discuss the KiwiFarms deplatforming (lol). They’ve also made several videos defending Keffals. Poppy was made a VIP in Keffals discord server, but left after his drama was brought up in one of the discord channels. Keffals has blocked Zena and Poppy on twitter after Poppy kept tagging her for help in his rage campaign. Keffals brought this up on stream that she thought it was nuts and wanted no part in it.Vaush
Poppy has a parasocial relationship with Vaush. He made several videos defending him the second someone else steps out of line and says something not nice about him. Vaush barely acknowledges their existence, except when POPPY PAID VAUSH for a shoutout for his birthday.EuphoriTori
EuphoriTori gets mentioned occassionally. Poppy made a video defending him over racist tweets he made about George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin. He will also try to slither his way into Tori's DMs by mentioning how "cute" he is.
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Special thanks to the Poppy & Zena Tumblr for archiving many of the tweets / Discord DMs in this OP proving Jessica Routhier and Lauren Jasenak are abusive partners and parents
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