Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

any other man would have humility, be ashamed, be embarrassed or walk it back and admit they made some bad judgement calls. But not our Human Sun Beam. its quite amazing to watch. I was expecting this a year ago and now that its finally here, I almost feel bad. Not for frog though I feel bad for every creator who stuck by the cult leader for 7 years to have it end on this hill.

Slums have shat on Warcampaign for years, now they are coping with being treated exactly the same. I used to be a frog licker and was believing every narrative he sold about why we need to get rid of this person or that person. In the end I want a heeling for the Cast outs who have been persecuted by the frog.....

A Nuremberg trial and justice for the harmed IE the Riot Presses, The Wangers, The Pan Boy's, The Doug TenNapel's, The Edward Boyett's, The Camel Moons, The Crack Pack's, The Iconic Comics, the list is massive not taking there side just they should have there moment to say there peice today, for them to say see you all we new this the whole time now you know too.....
Maybe I am extremely optimistic
I'm sure I'll catch digital hands for this take but: Warcampaign got too much shit, and I've said this many times. Especially given their takes on Ethan's favored pets were correct. They were justifiably criticized over Man of Sex's Ellen's ashes memes... but excommunication over what was essentially a joke in poor taste was and still is gay.

I don't think Ethan's outrage had anything to do with Anna. I think he built up resentment toward Warcampaign over time due to disagreements. The Anner debacle was merely an excuse to unleash his stored tard ki. A genki dama of autistic rage, if you will.
Don't forget then Ethan Van Sciver pretty much immediately went on with Tonka saw to bitch about Warski. This is way after the no show fight thing, pretty pathetic.
I forgot he did this. It had been so long, good lord!
 
Do the folks at C2E2 know? None of them are scheduled to appear.

From my understanding of cons, "guests" would be people who are paid/invited by the con to attend. EVS, Malin, and Davis had stated that they were going to buy their way onto the main floor (as opposed to being stuck down in "artist alley").

This would, I believe, make them "Exhibitors", not "Guests".

The C2E2 Exhibitors list isn't posted yet though, so I can not confirm.

C2E2 Exhibitors page
 
I am not autistic enough for this. infact I'm taking a week break from watching anything Comicsgate ........ this shit is really gay.
But wait, there's MORE.

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FROG said:
"I don't seek out Pedos for literally criticism. Really you don't?"
"Did you know that like all of the best authors were Pedophiles?"
"Did you know that the guy who wrote Willy Wonka was a Pedophile?"
"Did you know that guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland a fuckin Pedophile?"
"You understand, that like some of the biggest, The Wizard of Oz was a Pedophile?"
"Uh ya know, some of the uh I think Winnie the Pooh also... Could be wrong about that. Double check me on that."
"Um, but some of the greatest authors uh, in history were fuckin Pedos dude... Uh yeah, for real."
"Lewis Carol, look it up. Lewis Carol in Alice in Wonderland. He was writing that book to entertain a little child that was not his own... That he was infatuated with."
"Uh, it is disgusting. You can look into that. Jimmy Mack, that's a really weird take... How is it!?"
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"Did you know that like all of the best authors were Pedophiles?"

Proceeds to throw out a couple of author's names with nothing else to back up this sweeping, unsubstantiated statement.

Also, what? Is he trying to imply that if "all the best authors" are pedos, and Vito is a pedo, then by virtue of the transitive property, Vito will surely be another one of the greatest authors?
 
Having read through the thread over the past week or so, it's just further solidified my belief that livestreaming kills potential creators. Also, the idea they were going to beat the mainstream comics by making the exact same shit with marginally less wokeness was a ridiculous premise from the start, they should have looked to what the Japanese and Europeans were doing and learnt from that rather than doubling down on proven failures.
"Did you know that the guy who wrote Willy Wonka was a Pedophile?"
Roald Dahl wasn't a pedophile, he just didn't like Isreal very much.
 
it's just further solidified my belief that livestreaming kills potential creators
I disagree. There is a comic creator I watch that does livestreams every week or so (usually drawing livestreams) and he is perfectly fine. That said he is a small creator but he is growing steadily.
the idea they were going to beat the mainstream comics by making the exact same shit with marginally less wokeness was a ridiculous premise from the start, they should have looked to what the Japanese and Europeans were doing and learnt from that rather than doubling down on proven failures
This is something I heartily agree with. The only way to success (in any industry) is innovation so drastic that it kills the status quo.
 
Part of the fallout between evs and dynamite besides dynamite doing fulfillment for evs was the proposed crossover between cyberfrog and don chin’s radioactive black belt hamsters (a parody of the tmnt which was successful in the indie scene in the 80s) . EVS hoped it would be successful enough to get a crossover with the tmnt over at idw.
 
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Crowdfunding books was making him a mint until he derailed it by being a lazy sloth. He could've still done it the lazy way by releasing two new projects per year - three months to draw and three months to fulfill with little effort. It would've taken maybe 12-18 months to get the process and supply-chain figured out and then every six months thereafter customers would getting new shipments of major properties, each campaign grossing $500k-$1mill. With a bit more effort he could've done three per year fulfilled every four months rather than six. That's what I envisioned when this started. Instead he's finished what, two comics with 50 different variant covers (most done by other artists), a couple posters and a doll line sitting unsold in his warehouse that nobody asked for? It's amazing how badly he's blown this.
That’s why he is going at Eric so hard. Eric is getting books into people‘s hands in a timely manner while making at least a million per campaign. That’s gotta sting after the failiure that was the Cyberfrog 3 campaign.
 
Having read through the thread over the past week or so, it's just further solidified my belief that livestreaming kills potential creators. Also, the idea they were going to beat the mainstream comics by making the exact same shit with marginally less wokeness was a ridiculous premise from the start, they should have looked to what the Japanese and Europeans were doing and learnt from that rather than doubling down on proven failures.

Roald Dahl wasn't a pedophile, he just didn't like Isreal very much.
He might not have been but alot of his books could be interpreted in a certain inappropriate light now that we know he was very close with at least one pedo. He was friends with Gary Glitter and let him stay for stretches of time on his estate and let his children hang out with him. Looks like YouTube has scrubbed Gary's "This Is Your Life" episode from 1992 where Tessa Dahl actually shows up and gushes about how "gorgeous" he was and how her sister would show him off to all their friends back in the 70s before they were even teenagers.

This article has a screenshot of when he tried to shush her mid-tribute:

Gary Glitter: Paedophile seen shushing Tessa Dahl as she tells of schoolgirl visits in 1992

There is a problem with many classic authors of children's literature, but what an odd thing to infer about comic books! Hmmmm... Frogfag lore gains new validity...
 
I'm sure I'll catch digital hands for this take but: Warcampaign got too much shit, and I've said this many times. Especially given their takes on Ethan's favored pets were correct. They were justifiably criticized over Man of Sex's Ellen's ashes memes... but excommunication over what was essentially a joke in poor taste was and still is gay.

I don't think Ethan's outrage had anything to do with Anna. I think he built up resentment toward Warcampaign over time due to disagreements. The Anner debacle was merely an excuse to unleash his stored tard ki. A genki dama of autistic rage, if you will.
These are all very selfish people who were trying to disingenuously preach group/community bullshit. Warcampaign with their group that is either all the centurions and valkyries and bretheren etc or it's just the youtube guys depending on the day and consequences to be avoided. EVS with Comicsgate same thing and Anna used to be the same way with Fandom Menace before that imploded. The Jack show people were going to snake the Warcampaign people first chance they got anyhow. Warcampaign always blamed their shit on others so I would respect them for insulting Anna but they said I should respect some other idiots. 🤷‍♂️
That’s why he is going at Eric so hard. Eric is getting books into people‘s hands in a timely manner while making at least a million per campaign. That’s gotta sting after the failiure that was the Cyberfrog 3 campaign.
I'm sure he's jelly but I think that @FROG is just being unoriginal and copying what Biggest Problem in the Universe, Geek Getaway, Big Daddy, Ethan Ralph, Nerdette, Puma Fist, Mike Partyka, even Actual Fandom and his initiative were doing. Ethan slums it 24/7 watching youtube livestreams instead of working. If there is some fucking 20 subs channel with 3 viewers talking about comic drama he will be in the chat and trying to get the link. He started showing up on the Geek Getaway show and saw them getting superchats even with 100 viewers. He wanted a piece (of Eric July detractor bucks).
 
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Well, let's not get ridiculous here.

Ethan is not wrong when he says "John Del Arroz doesn't believe any of this stuff. John Del Arroz is trying to saddle up to anyone who will put him in the best position to sell his comics."

It's hard not to see this as anything other than a rat leaving a sinking ship. It makes sense for the rat to leave the sinking ship, but you're still dealing with a rat. My biggest issue with JDA is that he pretends he has principles, but seemingly doesn't. Everything is in service of a grift with him, it seems.

If he wants to do something that would actually be impressive for once, try disavowing Vedo.

I know it's retarded to respond on here, but whatever.

I never understood this line of rationale when it came to me. It seems like cope from really unintelligent people who don't have any vision, of which you have consistently shown you are, Captain Manning the Vikki Simp. I, by contrast, have consistently taken paths that are the morally and culture war relevant correct ones for the cause to my financial detriment (or at least not to partake in obvious gains) in this sphere. Most recently, I turned down a salaried position at bounding into comics because I didn't want to be censored about wokeism in the comic book industry. I instead moved to make my own news site that isn't making me revenue and likely won't pay me anything near what Bounding was offering me for years, if ever.

I never pushed to go on Ethan's show all the time to try to sell the books over the last few years. I don't have any problem with Ethan and think we stream well together, but I've consistently just worked to build my own platform rather than rely on someone else because I see how the results are when it comes to creator spats if there' ends up a conflict. The money, even though the internet is the Wild West, people view it as a "this is my slice of the pie!" and it leads to conflicts everywhere.

I spend most of my time writing and working on news stories, and then I have a hard rule to get off the internet around 5 PM to spend time with the family (which is prime time stream for $ or going on streams to get some e-clout time). Books-wise, I don't even write to market either -- meaning I see what this general audience sphere wants, which is a Liefeld/Jim Lee 90s-style superhero team book. I may do that in the future because that's what the audience wants, but if you notice my trends in writing, I am far more interested in doing my own little artsy projects like building out an in-depth steampunk world or creating a 1950s retro-sci-fi universe because I find the golden/silver age and European comics to have more creative depth than a lot of the 90s stuff. No sweat if you like the 90s stuff, but I am not sacrificing my own artistic vision for a few bucks because the whole point is to be independent. As long as my art costs are covered so I can maintain that artistic vision, I'm content.

To make some short term money for the "rat on the sinking ship", going on the anti-Rippa train seems to be the way to do so. I've seen a lot of channels go way up in revenue while mine's way down because just focusing on the culture war doesn't inspire a lot of superchats from people looking to egg on e-drama. It is just superchats which are down revenue wise too, everything else is just steadily growing from views, to ads, to subs and twitter follows. Not super fast, just steady because the people who get the vision come in a little more slowly than when you just do something to go viral.

Taking the opposite stance on Rippaverse isn't likely to financially benefit me, and i know this and am OK with it. Eric doesn't really have guests on his shows to promote outside of people who had Marvel/DC experience, if you didn't notice. It's not like I'm going to "coattail ride" there and get anything out of it. You are missing the obvious -- that I've talked to Eric, I think he's a good guy, and I just genuinely like him and especially Carrow Brown over at Rippaverse. She's a great person.

The person I've maintained my best friendship with to my financial detriment is Vox Day. And I still am closest with him. It would have made me a lot of money quickly to throw him under the bus, but I didn't because of loyalty and, again, artistic vision in the culture war.

I'm not complaining, either. I'm perfectly happy and will continue to work hard on both the books and the news and mostly ignore the nonsense. Got like 3 graphic novels in the pipeline and hopefully can get a couple more prose novels (those are comics without pictures for more intelligent people) in the next year as well. Though the news website is nearly a full time job, a lot more hours than I thought, and is slowing me down a bit on that front.

Cheers, buds.
 
Jon, you will never be a true artist. You're a nepo who bought yourself through the front door and sold out to Ethan the second he'd promote you. No matter how many "artsy" trends you hitch your speedwagon to, a lifetime of inertia and having all your needs met means you were never desperate enough to try anything beyond failure and you never found a voice. To test my theory, let's see if you allow any introspection from your recent divorce seep into the speech bubbles. Doubt it!
 
@Fandom Pulse Hi Jon you lost your password to your account? your right this was a retarded idea.

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You are marketing to people who know your past at least you past in comicsgate. what does Vikki simp even mean to people who bought books for seven years and know much head cannon on comicsgate as you? your past is a leaf blowing in the wind you used to be a Vikkisimp so by your logic you are a vikki simp.....

Think outside the box your audience arn't children even if you treat them as such. I think you could do well to continue doing what you do today with the drama show with cider its entertaining. just don't group potential buyers with the people you clown on ... its a balance but you can figure it out. I like jon del arroz today allot more than jon del arroz of 2 years ago. But your still a prick ..... good luck brother in christ. if you beat women maybe stop that ......
 
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I know it's retarded to respond on here, but whatever.
JFC Jon TLDR much? This is the farms not a delegation. If anything reading this post, it comes off as sympathetic pandering.

If you wanted to make a statement, withdrawal some cash and throw it in the air hailing "IRONAGE".

This act of posting with... well I did this, to do this, to do that, to mean this and get that. My gawd, you're a grown man with 2 kids and a new girl. Just go laugh at retards and you wonder why Helmut picks on you so much.

Also Zeitgeist says:
 
You are marketing to people who know your past at least you past in comicsgate. what does Vikki simp even mean to people who bought books for seven years and know much head cannon on comicsgate as you? your past is a leaf blowing in the wind you used to be a Vikkisimp so by your logic you are a vikki simp.....
This is typical JDA. @robo6 has commented about this over the years at some length, but basically Jon's standard refrain, FOR YEARS, has been that everybody who doesn't like him does so on orders from Vikki, and that (taken to its absurdist conclusion) he would be loved by everybody but for Vikki.

Never mind the fact that several people here (self included) don't exactly like Vikki anymore. I'm sure there's others that never did. Maybe there's some that still do. I dunno. Either way, the point is it's entirely reasonable to not like Jon regardless of what Vikki or anybody else says. One can formulate an opinion on Jon on their own, and I think plenty of people have. Matt's post here, for example, is illustrative of this. Jon has had critics within CG.

Does @motts337, for example, dislike Jon because Vikki told him to? He can speak for himself, but I'm gonna take a wild ass guess the answer is no.

I am not gonna dignify his post with a response (other than this one), because it would only serve to give him the attention he wants and I don't believe a word he says anyways. I learned a long time ago there's really no point in debating JDA on anything. I think he lacks a moral compass and just goes where he feels the grift is the most bountiful.

Right now I'm only really watching this thread to see if the potential Metokur vs. FROG war kicks off. That sounds like it might be immensely entertaining. I have popcorn stored in the cupboard for it.
 
Right now I'm only really watching this thread to see if the potential Metokur vs. FROG war kicks off. That sounds like it might be immensely entertaining.
That's what I'm here for, Froggageddon. EVS has been picking fights with absolutely everyone these days. It's like he's suddenly acquired a career death wish. I just want to see the Infinity War of EVS, his lieutenants, and new degenerate "friends" vs everybody else.
 
Reminder that JDA was the entry point for both Vito and Riley/Mint.
Vito has been a long time friend of his (he's in great company there). He slipped into Mint's DMs as soon as she did that viral video where she was autistically screeching about Star Wars. All these people came from his streams.

His original KF account is TheCosmicWarrior. Since he's trying to use Dixon to worm his way into the Rippaverse, interested parties can find great material from his streams around the time the Rekieta/July "debate" happened (late September). Very interesting takes on Eric July.
 
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