US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Betonhaus]

Rather emphatically yes. Robert's loves down the middle, no real implications, avoiding precedent decisions. Only really breaking from this when the Uniparty up top says they want a specific outcome. This... is a pretty hard break. Whenever it is in support of the Uniparty Roberts has always followed a pattern in his reasoning, arguing specifically for how 'both sides' have come to support X therefore he must make decision Y. Always trying to make it a both-sides issue to cover for it being something that helps the uniparty. There is none of that in this, in fact the decision reads as Alito's handwriting. Roberts can barely be read in it. yet he supported such a massive., sweeping decision with no additional words. I would have expected him to at least sign on to Barret's.

I would assume part of it is them recognizing that they had the opportunity to avoid the complete disaster of the Biden administration, if they had chosen to take on the voter fraud cases from the 2020 election.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Ashleigh Merchant is one of Trump's lawyers in the GA case. If I remember correctly she is also the woman who honey-potted the main witness to the DA and her fuckbudy's relationship.

I'm hoping the judge in that case axes Fani "I wear my dresses backwards" Willis' ass from the case. That means the case dies because the only other people to pick it up would be Republicans. Not that Georgia doesn't have RINOs, but one can hope they would care more about their own careers than doing the establishment's bidding.

Roger that. To correct my original post, it's not the trial to remove her this time, it's the GA Senate. So it sounds like they're pulling her away from the trial (which is now closed and awaiting the judge's decision) to a senate hearing where they can bring her out and without worrying about rules of evidence or bullshit objection-coaching or what have you, have her just lay out everything she found out so the public can directly see it.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Victoria Nuland is leaving Joepedos administration today. This bitch is responsible for all the shit going on in Ukraine since 2014, she is everything you think of when it comes to deep state.

So she’s leaving now to jump back into a swamp office to fuck with Donny Two Scoops.

What this really means is the war in Ukraine is going to end soon, one way or the other with Zelensky airing the skeletons or Joepedo letting Putin bomb Kyiv to hide the evidence.

 

[Betonhaus]

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[WhiskeyJack]

https://x.com/MetaPrime001/status/1765003146718233077?s=20

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Which is why I've never been able to really get into Iain Bank's Culture series. Or really Star Trek, post TOS anyway. I don't buy either could really function or maintain a competent military (Star Trek writers seem to agree with me, given that they introduced pragmatic secret agencies after TNG to explain the Federation's ability to win wars, and now have back dated them to before the TOS era).

Anyway, wasn't the old leftist complaint during the Bush years that Halo was clearly jingoist right wing propaganda and worse, was popular with US soldiers? It's literally just Starship Troopers mixed with Niven's Ringworld and Known Space series (right down to a forerunner proto-human species being the builders of the Ring all along).

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

Nixon was a fantastic President. Only thing he did wrong was taking us off the Gold Standard.

IIRC, that was literally meant to be a temporary measure to alleviate some of the pain of the oil crisis in the 70s. It was only meant to last for a few years and then we'd be put back on it. It worked for a bit and then Watergate happened and people forgot to put us back on the Gold Standard and now we're here.

 

[Barry McKockner]

The thing is they are noooooot entirely wrong. I actually find myself siding with the liberal justices here. The ruling as is, is amazingly overbroad. I have no clue how it passed both Roberts and Kavanugh that this does basically nullify an entire amendment and in turn raises questions about others. That could have been the point, a rather blatant telling of congress to do their damn job, but I doubt that since I cannot see Thomas or Alito passing up the opportunity to spell that out in the decision.

If you think this nullifies the amendment, then you're not taking into account what literally just happened for this ruling to be required, nor are you understanding the root of WHY section 3 is vastly different from the other qualifications (or other "self executing" sections of the constitution).

Of all the eligibility requirements, only ONE is bound by due process and legal findings due to being a criminal act. What we saw here was nothing short of a bastardization of the law for political purposes. It all hinges on a FEDERAL statute of insurrection and rebellion, of which not one person has been found guilty. I wager that had Trump been found guilty of insurrection, and were serving his sentence, or even had been convicted in the senate of insurrection, we would have seen a completely different ruling. But we didn't. What we saw was state courts attempting to determine guilt of a federal statute of which they have no jurisdiction to find, within an improper process.

Did they go a little too broad? IMO yes. Being charged and found guilty of the insurrection act within it's NORMAL federal court process should be a satisfactory determination, but I suspect they see what's happening just like we are and are close to having enough. I suspect they see the lawfare to subvert democracy for what it is and are starting to see just how destructive this path is going to become in the future. Trump may lose the immunity appeal, and that wouldn't be as big of a blow. But lawfare to keep someone off of the ballot in what's supposed to be a democratic process? That's probably the bridge too far and they REALLY wanted to make sure it couldn't happen again.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Anyway, wasn't the old leftist complaint during the Bush years that Halo was clearly jingoist right wing propaganda and worse

What How? The Main badguy are religious nutjobs, The Covenant was written like a fucking Reddit post.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

What How? The Main badguy are religious nutjobs, The Covenant was written like a fucking Reddit post.

Are you too young to remember early 2000's politics? You weren't allowed to have religious nutjobs as villains unless they carry a cross. As far as the left was concerned, the Halo series was just a blatant right wing power fantasy about American super soldiers killing Space Muslims.

 

[The Ugly One]

Fun fact, Joseph Kennedy said he would support Nixon if JFK had not got the nomination, and the Kennedy's backed and donated to Nixon in the 1950 CA senate race over Helen Douglas. Nixon considered JFK a friend and they maintained good relations until the assassination.

They both supported Joe McCarthy's attempt to remove Communist spies from the federal government.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

IIRC, that was literally meant to be a temporary measure to alleviate some of the pain of the oil crisis in the 70s. It was only meant to last for a few years and then we'd be put back on it. It worked for a bit and then Watergate happened and people forgot to put us back on the Gold Standard and now we're here.

Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Are you too young to remember early 2000's politics? You weren't allowed to have religious nutjobs as villains unless they carry a cross. As far as the left was concerned, the Halo series was just a blatant right wing power fantasy about American super soldiers killing Space Muslims.

I mean I was a child during the 2000s...but I played MCC a few years ago and I found the Covenant to be well

 

[Meat Target]

It worked for a bit and then Watergate happened and people forgot to put us back on the Gold Standard and now we're here.

Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution.

I highly doubt they forgot.

"Never let a crisis go to waste". Why not kick the grand scam of fractional reserve banking into overdrive while you can? It's not like the peasants have the time, the knowledge, or the fucks to give to notice, much less understand or care.

Hanlon's Razor is a cop-out for the corrupt.

 

[Polyboros2]

Are you too young to remember early 2000's politics? You weren't allowed to have religious nutjobs as villains unless they carry a cross. As far as the left was concerned, the Halo series was just a blatant right wing power fantasy about American super soldiers killing Space Muslims.

Are you too young to remember the Early 2000's? The bad guy de jour for most the of the rest of the decade were jihadi terrorists after 9/11.

 

[tehpope]

IIRC, that was literally meant to be a temporary measure to alleviate some of the pain of the oil crisis in the 70s. It was only meant to last for a few years and then we'd be put back on it. It worked for a bit and then Watergate happened and people forgot to put us back on the Gold Standard and now we're here.

Its like Reagan or Milton Friedman said: “Nothing lasts longer than a temporary government program.”

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

was there anything more about that new balloon a week or two back?

 

[tehpope]

https://apnews.com/article/state-department-victoria-nuland-retiring-russia-ukraine-b06cfb9ca517f1a7f2e10ee7520e3086

WASHINGTON (AP) — Victoria Nuland, the third-highest ranking U.S. diplomat and frequent target of criticism for her hawkish views on Russia and its actions in Ukraine, will leave her post this month, the State Department said Tuesday.

Nuland, a career foreign service officer who served as Assistant Secretary of State for Europe during the Obama administration but retired after Donald Trump was elected president, returned to government as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs in the Biden administration.

She had been a candidate to succeed Wendy Sherman as deputy Secretary of State and had served as acting deputy since Sherman’s retirement seven months ago but lost an internal administration personnel battle when President Joe Biden nominated Kurt Campbell to the no. 2 spot. Campbell took office last month.

Nuland had served at the U.S. embassy in Moscow in the tumultuous 1990s and was in the city during the attempted coup against former Russian President Boris Yeltsin.

She then became U.S. ambassador to NATO before being tapped to serve as the State Department spokeswoman under former Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton during President Barack Obama’s first term.

As the department spokeswoman and later as assistant Secretary of State for Europe, Nuland drew the ire of many Russian leaders for her outspoken defense of Ukraine, particularly after Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula in 2014.

Former Secretary of State John Kerry has recalled on numerous times that when Nuland left the spokeswoman’s job during his tenure to become the top diplomat for Europe, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov congratulated him for “getting rid of that woman.” Kerry said he replied to Lavrov that he didn’t get rid of her, “I promoted her.”

Current Secretary of State Antony Blinken praised Nuland for her three and a half decades of public service and thanked her for her role in shaping U.S. policy around the world under six presidents and 10 secretaries of state.

“But it’s Toria’s leadership on Ukraine that diplomats and students of foreign policy will study for years to come,” Blinken said in a statement.

“Her efforts have been indispensable to confronting Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, marshaling a global coalition to ensure his strategic failure, and helping Ukraine work toward the day when it will be able to stand strongly on its own feet – democratically, economically, and militarily.”

Nuland will be replaced temporarily as under secretary by another career diplomat, John Bass, a former ambassador to Afghanistan who oversaw the U.S. withdrawal from the country. He is currently the undersecretary of state for management.

 

[mandatorylurk]

does anyone speak faggot? I don't know how he's getting five in anything:

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Are you too young to remember the Early 2000's? The bad guy de jour for most the of the rest of the decade were jihadi terrorists after 9/11.

I don't think you understand what I was saying. In the 90's the Left generally assumed any depiction of religious nutjob was a Christian Fundamentalist (unless clearly Muslim, like True Lies). After 2001, anything that remotely looked like a religious nutjob was "clearly just a horribly racist Republican fantasy about Islamic terrorists", even an alien species in a purely fictional scenario.

Though now that I think of it, I can't really recall any film that had major Muslim villains until Iron Man (and the real villain is still a white guy). They even changed the plot of a Jack Ryan film to have neo-NAZI villains instead of Muslims like in the book, after 9/11.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

does anyone speak faggot? I don't know how he's getting five in anything:

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Oh that's easy, he thinks the reporter is asking about his Senate election. He thinks he is Senator Biden of Delaware.

I don't think you understand what I was saying. In the 90's the Left generally assumed any depiction of religious nutjob was a Christian Fundamentalist (unless clearly Muslim, like True Lies). After 2001, anything that remotely looked like a religious nutjob was "clearly just a horribly racist Republican fantasy about Islamic terrorists", even an alien species in a purely fictional scenario.

Though now that I think of it, I can't really recall any film that had major Muslim villains until Iron Man (and the real villain is still a white guy). They even changed the plot of a Jack Ryan film to have neo-NAZI villains instead of Muslims like in the book, after 9/11.

Fun fact: That Jack Ryan movie (based on the book The Sum of All Fears) didn't just modify the villains from Palestinians to Neo-Nazis. It also edited out a huge chunk of the story where Jerusalem achieves peace because the US strongarms the region into putting the Swiss Guard in charge of the city after the Israelis massacre a sit in by Palestinians. The same book also criticizes Israel quite a lot by the standards of a Neocon Boomer like Tom Clancy, where he calls them overly paranoid and unable to work together with the USA (which is why the missing nuke ends up on terrorist hands in the first place).