Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.4%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 12.0%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.7%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 156 33.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 113 24.3%

  • Total voters
    465
Actually I'll have to take an L on that, sorry. I had confused two SCOTUS cases about Social Media. In one the Government threatened places like FB with jail time if they didn't censor opposing viewpoints, and another (technically two, but they were merged) regarding public carrier doctrine and Social Media censorship. I had misremembered statements FIRE said about the latter, and my head recalled facts about the first case instead.

Genuinely my fault, and sorry to FIRE. Fucked up like a retard.
 
Actually I'll have to take an L on that, sorry. I had confused two SCOTUS cases about Social Media. In one the Government threatened places like FB with jail time if they didn't censor opposing viewpoints, and another (technically two, but they were merged) regarding public carrier doctrine and Social Media censorship. I had misremembered statements FIRE said about the latter, and my head recalled facts about the first case instead.

Genuinely my fault, and sorry to FIRE. Fucked up like a retard.
It happens. I'm used to being disappointed by orgs. I was the biggest ACLU fanboy back in the day.

Really, keep an eye on individuals, not orgs.
 
I literally do not know how to help you bro. I listed the days SCOTUS issues denials of the petitions for writs. I told you that three times already. I legitimately do not understand how are you being confused
Typically posting a link to the source when asked where you're getting the info is a good way to do it. Thanks to @Not Really Here for doing it though.
 
10th Circuit of Court of Appeals has been informed of the appeal to the Supreme Court by the Clerk of the Supreme Court
And now the 10th gets to sit in anticipation too. Even if the SCOTUS declines to grant cert, the fact everyone involved in this drama has to sit with is kiwis in anticipation is a form of justice in itself
 
And now the 10th gets to sit in anticipation too. Even if the SCOTUS declines to grant cert, the fact everyone involved in this drama has to sit with is kiwis in anticipation is a form of justice in itself
Even if the appeal goes no further, putting the 10th on notice that they dun goofed is worth the price of admission alone.
 
I'm just dropping in to inform everyone that Kiwi Farms is officially The Hardship. Apologies if this was posted earlier, but I'm going to bed and don't have time to flip through the thread.
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I'm just dropping in to inform everyone that Kiwi Farms is officially The Hardship. Apologies if this was posted earlier, but I'm going to bed and don't have time to flip through the thread.
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Kiwifarms and hardship go together like Kiwifarms and the gamer word.
 
To everyone saying that the Court only accepts 1% of the cases submitted, has anyone stopped to calculate how many of the remaining 99% that they reject were submitted by Melinda Scott? If we want a realistic idea of whether Josh's case will be accepted, we ought to remove all of hers from the total first, and then calculate the odds from there.
Many of them are interesting legal issues of pretty significant impact.
 
I'm curious of the small percentage of cases that are accepted by the supreme court, how many of them are cases that have been ruled on by a circuit court?

You could rephrase my question to ask what percentage of cases that are submitted to the Supreme court are cases that actually have a legal matter worthy of consideration vs what percentage is dumb petitions from people that could not accept that they should have lost?

Even if the appeal goes no further, putting the 10th on notice that they dun goofed is worth the price of admission alone.
I don't know much about courts, but I feel I understand power within systems of people.

My hope for why the Supreme court accepts this case is that they want to teach the 10th circuit a lesson. The Supreme Court sets precedence but they also serve as the head of the legal system. Ideally the circuit courts should know they can't be mindnumbingly retarded without the Supreme court spanking them. This could be an opportunity to do that while also setting precedent for a poorly defined area of law in the form of Online copyright.

Maybe I'm just being optimistic but I think there is a real chance of this case being accepted.
 
I'm curious of the small percentage of cases that are accepted by the supreme court, how many of them are cases that have been ruled on by a circuit court?
The fuck? They're all from a Circuit Court or a state Supreme Court. That's literally all you can appeal from to SCOTUS. They're not even going to look at an appeal from a parking ticket in a city court.

The rare exception is something like a suit under their original jurisdiction like a suit between states.
 
It would be interesting to see if there's a clear pattern for what gets accepted and what doesn't. The Texas lawsuit against Georgia for voter fraud was rejected so it'll be funny if the Kiwifarms lawsuit gets accepted.
 
The fuck? They're all from a Circuit Court or a state Supreme Court. That's literally all you can appeal from to SCOTUS. They're not even going to look at an appeal from a parking ticket in a city court.

The rare exception is something like a suit under their original jurisdiction like a suit between states.
The question, badly phrased, was basically which percentage are not things like death-penalty stays, etc.

And the answer had been given (roughly) that even factoring out "never granted basically" as best you can (which is actually nearly impossible because so many types of things have been granted) it still raises it to 5% or so.

Sometimes you can predict if something will be taken up (Trump cases, for example, they can't really ignore) but otherwise you're either using the percentages or reading the tea leaves (e.g., Thomas saying "the court should take a case about this because the previous court was dumb niggers" repeatedly in other cases).
 
Unless they just decide nah. They have original jurisdiction over such cases, but that doesn't mean they have to actually accept them apparently.
I can think of at least one such recent decision. I didn't disagree with the result, but with the Court's refusal to comply with its actual obligation to adhere to the rare cases where its original jurisdiction does apply. That's the case I was implying.
 
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