Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[The Ugly One]

An EU Army is a huge fucking larp, and will basically never come to pass because its a fucking nightmare. The best you could get would be a semi-feudal style of countries being expected to be able to raise and lead formations at request of the EU, but sending six disconnected forces with different equipment, different organizational structures, supplies, logistical trains, and frankly commitment to a given conflict is retarded.

Any attempt to create a truly EU army would both require convincing all the member states to place a military force above and outside the control of their own states, with authority over them, and presumably require the entire EU to actually authorize using it. This is just more of their attempts to slowly sneak a free trade zone into a supranational entity, and its retarded every time.

They're going to eventually need to invade anyone in Europe they can't force to accept infinigger migration.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

They also work cash only jobs to keep gibs.

I also think this is smart, as paying taxes to the Feds is gay.

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

So a t72 knocked out another Abrams tank?

Any media on this?

It seems that earlier in the thread there were only screenshots.

"T-72BM kills Abrams with Invar-M ATGM"

 

[Pаzuzu]

Any media on this?

So a t72 knocked out another Abrams tank?

It's T-72B3 tho, modernized version.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It's a step away from the Donkey Kong minecart roller coasters that supposedly operated in the German death camps in WW2, or the Tom and Jerry wall with holes

Look who's running the Ukraine, there and at the State Department, and then the far-out stories make sense.

with the Russians with Nuland being an obvious impediment

I dimly recall a rumor the bitch got salty with Sergey Lavrov immediately prior to the SMO; as in saying the US and their hohols would destroy Russia, using nice language like иди нaхyи пидopac in Russian. I don't know if its true or not but given all the rumors she was a huge bitch it could be. Russia may have specified "no deals unless that cunt is gone, really gone" so she had to go.

Women have no intuitive understanding of what it means to inflict violence. It's 100% something men do on their behalf.

Well, as a sort of continuation of my comment above there are a lot of women who think they know what's its like to be a tough hard politician/negotiator, and upper middle class women think it involves a lot of threats to maim, kill or bomb, salty language and demands that their men make good on their threats. The don't understand that violence, but especially political violence, is really the ultimate use of force in a political stalemate, not the go to solution in every case. They don't understand resorting to violence in every instance makes you look weak, instead of keeping it in reserve and a smart politician only uses it when they (publicly) have exhausted every single option and they haven't yielded the desired result.

I am 100% certain they don't play chess because it requires abstract thought; they likely think a pawn is just an expendable piece, when it really isn't. Pawns make be numerous and weak but they can effect a lot of damage, and in the occasional rare circumstance can turn into a Queen, one of the most powerful pieces. I have rarely met true American female chess spergs, and the few I have met are not psychos like Nuland or HIllary, and certainly none are politicians.

 

[The Ugly One]

Well, as a sort of continuation of my comment above there are a lot of women who think they know what's its like to be a tough hard politician/negotiator, and upper middle class women think it involves a lot of threats to maim, kill or bomb, salty language and demands that their men make good on their threats. The don't understand that violence, but especially political violence, is really the ultimate use of force in a political stalemate, not the go to solution in every case. They don't understand resorting to violence in every instance makes you look weak, instead of keeping it in reserve and a smart politician only uses it when they (publicly) have exhausted every single option and they haven't yielded the desired result.

I mean women don't understand violence like men don't understand getting pregnant and giving birth, so they can't ever really understand the gravity of it. Anyone who talks about committing forces to war cavalierly is either a bloodthirsty psychopath or has been so insulated from danger their whole lives that violence is a complete abstraction to them. Women tend, I think, to fall into the latter group.

 

[Haftag]

This thread is only 1/10 about SMO.

 

[Betonhaus]

This thread is only 1/10 about SMO.

To understand the SMO, we need to understand the history of it. Hence all the WWII discussion and history lessons

 

[geckogoy]

To understand the SMO, we need to understand the history of it. In the year of our lord 768...

 

[Fapcop]

It's T-72B3 tho, modernized version.
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I saw a video of an orthodox priest blessing the tanks aboard this huuuge ass train, packed with modernized T73 B3 tanks rolling out from the factory in Nizhny Tagil.

Seemed a little silly and quaint at the time, but guess it must have worked.

Can you imagine anything similar happening in the US? Perhaps a mockery of a ceremony where priests, imams, Rabbis and shamans bless a newly constructed Abrams tank, covered in rainbow, MAP and BLM flags.

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

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You see, the Sumerian city of Ur is considered the birthplace of civilization and the Mesopotamian peoples. This is very much like Kiev and the Russian people. We can then consider the Akkadian Empire which is the successor state of Sumer as analogue of Russia.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

To understand the SMO, we need to understand the history of it. Hence all the WWII discussion and history lessons

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In order to truly understand the current armed conflict in Ukraine first we must go back to the year 753 BC where a small town in the middle of Italy by the name of Rome was founded by the Son of Mars Romulus.

 

[Oligarca Caballero]

I saw a video of an orthodox priest blessing the tanks aboard this huuuge ass train, packed with modernized T73 B3 tanks rolling out from the factory in Nizhny Tagil.

Seemed a little silly and quaint at the time, but guess it must have worked.

Can you imagine anything similar happening in the US? Perhaps a mockery of a ceremony where priests, imams, Rabbis and shamans bless a newly constructed Abrams tank, covered in rainbow, MAP and BLM flags.

Nah, a valid drag queen blessing the tank in the name of the Fauci, the non-binary genderless individual and the holy vaccine is mor than enough, the science will turn any Sherman into an Abrams. A priest and an imam is kinda heckin bigoted don't you think?

 

[Fascist Kirk]

Rumors the comedian President attempted assassination in Grease, any one have any info on this, or am I hearing voices in my monitor?

 

[kuuu]

https://t.me/myLordBebo/24638

Doesn't seem to be about zman, really.
I do hope he needed a spare change of pants tho.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Rumors the comedian President attempted assassination in Grease, any one have any info on this, or am I hearing voices in my monitor?

Russian MOD released a statement saying they were targeting a sea drone facility nearby and destroyed it.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Russian MOD released a statement saying they were targeting a sea drone facility nearby and destroyed it.

Presumably Zelensky was showing it to the Greek delegation at the time/shortly before. Ukraine likes dragging foreign politicians into PR acts, sometimes impromptu, and they unveiled a new unmanned boat the other day.

Maybe the foreign politicians will think twice befoing going to an active war zone now. Or not.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Presumably Zelensky was showing it to the Greek delegation at the time/shortly before. Ukraine likes dragging foreign politicians into PR acts, sometimes impromptu, and they unveiled a new unmanned boat the other day.

Maybe the foreign politicians will think twice befoing going to an active war zone now. Or not.

If Russia wanted Zelensky dead he would've been dead a long time ago. Him being in charge is one of the best things Russia has going for it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

women don't understand violence like men

There are some that do, like Elizabeth I, but it's sad I have to go back that far back for a good example. Fascinating how the modern age only creates monsters, on both sides. If you are against war, men say you are a sentimental woman who doesn't understand violence. If you are in favor of war they call you an unhinged hormonal warmonger. Good example:

Snake from the tomb​

— Soviet poster (1945)​

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- showing the snake of Ukrainian nationalism emerging from its coffin, decorated with a swastika and a Waffen-SS helmet.​

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Designed by Semen Gadyatskiy, based off a cartoon published in Radians'ka Ukraina newspaper, Mar 1945.​

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The poem on the poster reads:​

'Do you recognise this serpent?​

The bloody, devouring beast is slithering. Guarded by a spidery symbol [swastika], Its name is Stepan Bandera.​

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'Its name is Judas, Cain.​

These are the deeds of its snaky hands: Fires across our land,​

The spilled blood of innocent children.​

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'And the people stood up defiant,​

The country gave its verdict:​

Crush the serpent and its protectors​

And pull out the reptile's sting and teeth​

link​

So when I say Russia must go up to the Polish border, I mean that even only a sliver of Banderastan remaining is a serious threat to Russia, as it will be funded and armed by the US/EU. It's merely kicking the can down the road. Of course saying this can only mean I am Putin's whore that wants those poor huwite Aryan hohols dead because...reasons.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Meh…

These planes all originate in the 1980ies.
And are all being replaced with American planes.

The Leopard is likewise a decades old design as are European helicopters.

The US and Russia are still building airplanes whose original designs date back to the 80's or earlier: the F16, F-15(EX) are still in production. Russian SU-3X planes are all modernized (1980's and 90's) derivatives of the SU-27, a 1970's airframe design.

The F-35 and SU-57 are the most recent designs in production on either side of the new iron curtain, but they're not going to replace the Eurocanards, F-16's, F-15's or SU-27 derivatives any time soon, and maybe never will due to cost. So it doesn't matter how old the original design was, what matters is they've kept it current with new technology.

If the basic chassis is a good design, there's no need to reinvent it - just upgrade it.

Same thing on tanks. The M1 and T-90 are decades old platforms still in production, but models that roll off the factory floor in 2024 are better tanks than the same models from 1994. New design doesn't always mean better, or Russia would be overrunning Ukraine in Armatas.

I saw a video of an orthodox priest blessing the tanks aboard this huuuge ass train, packed with modernized T73 B3 tanks rolling out from the factory in Nizhny Tagil.

Seemed a little silly and quaint at the time, but guess it must have worked.

The T-72 was designed in the 1960's.

Of course it worked, there's nothing silly about asking God to help you in battle. Military chaplains aren't there to be glorified social workers. If you're not fighting for your faith and fatherland, why fight at all?