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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth has the record of the lowest-selling mainline FF title in Japan, even lower than the previous Final Fantasy 16 which scored 336,027 retail copies on first week. The original FF7 remake (on PS4) initially opened at 702,853 copies in 2020.

Worth to mention that Sony Interactive Entertainment screwed up the manufacturing process of the FF7 Rebirth physicals for Japan and Asia, by mislabeling the "install" and "play" discs.

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I am genuinely shocked by that. Back when this remake got announced, I would've guaranteed that Square could take a dump in a box labeled "Final Fantasy VII" and it would sell like hotcakes to hordes millennial manchildren trying to relive their teenage years.
If I had to guess when the best possible time to release a remake of FF7 would have been, I'd say probably around 2010-ish. Late PS3. That was a time when JRPGs were really not good across the board, and even Final Fantasy XIII was more well received than it should have been, despite being terrible in just about every way.

Reminds me a lot of Shenmue. There was an 18 year gap between Shenmue 2 and 3, and Shenmue 3 didn't actually add much to the story. It was an interim chapter, with the ending addressing hopes for making a Shenmue 4, which isn't guaranteed to be the final one. These games are taking lifetimes to come out, and it's just getting harder and harder to care.
 
A new Final Fantasy VII game

Selling poorly

In Japan

That has got to bode poorly for the future of both Square Enix and PlayStation. Maybe they shouldn't have waited until their audience was geriatric to do something new with Final Fantasy VII. Maybe they shouldn't keep it exclusive to a console relatively few own. Maybe they should have actually remade Final Fantasy VII rather than do a weird reboot and called it a remake.
And maybe even if they did all that then it at least should've been turn-based and not censored. They made a lot of questionable decisions, and I must be retarded to still be planning to play these eventually.
 

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth has the record of the lowest-selling mainline FF title in Japan, even lower than the previous Final Fantasy 16 which scored 336,027 retail copies on first week. The original FF7 remake (on PS4) initially opened at 702,853 copies in 2020.

Worth to mention that Sony Interactive Entertainment screwed up the manufacturing process of the FF7 Rebirth physicals for Japan and Asia, by mislabeling the "install" and "play" discs.

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Just proves that Nomura is a cancer on the industry.
 
And maybe even if they did all that then it at least should've been turn-based and not censored. They made a lot of questionable decisions, and I must be retarded to still be planning to play these eventually.
If it weren't for the Gold Saucer, I wouldn't have any plans to ever try Rebirth at all. So I'll probably still pirate it. I don't really have any other choice but to pirate it, because I certainly don't want to grotesquely overpay for such a game.

I have no plans to buy a PS5 unless I can get one at a yard sale for $25, which won't be until long after the platform's dead. That's most likely the only way the game will have a physical copy, at least until it eventually comes out on Nintendo's platform. I'm sure it will someday, because it is ludicrous to release a game in Japan and not have it available on Nintendo Switch. I'm sure the Super Switch will have a deluge of games that weren't really feasible on 2017's Switch in the first few years. I bring up physical copies, because that's the only way a game can actually come down in price beyond whatever the publisher decides. Square Enix never, ever discounts Final Fantasy games on any digital platform below 50% off, and their pricing structure's already a little nutty.
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Final Fantasy 1 should be like three bucks now. The Pixel Remasters don't even include all the bonus stuff from the GBA rereleases.

So, they'll never drop it below $35. Not at least until the base game gets a good price drop, but that often takes ages. They're still asking $50 for Final Fantasy XII, and that's an 18 year old game that made it to Steam six years ago.

Therefore, I will pirate it. I would be happy to pay $15 for it, because I envision only about $15 worth of fun.
 
I am genuinely shocked by that. Back when this remake got announced, I would've guaranteed that Square could take a dump in a box labeled "Final Fantasy VII" and it would sell like hotcakes to hordes of millennial manchildren trying to relive their teenage years.
Isn't that what they did?

The problem was trying to do it multiple times across different generations I think
 
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Isn't that what they did?

The problem was trying to do it multiple times across different generations I think
Come to think of it, yeah, they did. I remember Advent Children being a huuuuuuuuuge deal. I didn't watch it until years and years later, and it was the worst movie I had ever seen up to that point. For how much it was built up by all the other nerds I was around, I was expecting something pretty awesome, and I got a weird bumbling video game cutscene that lasted for an hour and a half. I barely even remember anything about it.

I know Dirge of Cerberus wasn't well received at all. Crisis Core had its fans, but I couldn't get into it. I don't think there's anything good about Final Fantasy VII other than the original game. Even Cloud in Smash Bros. wasn't great.
 
Come to think of it, yeah, they did. I remember Advent Children being a huuuuuuuuuge deal. I didn't watch it until years and years later, and it was the worst movie I had ever seen up to that point. For how much it was built up by all the other nerds I was around, I was expecting something pretty awesome, and I got a weird bumbling video game cutscene that lasted for an hour and a half. I barely even remember anything about it.

I know Dirge of Cerberus wasn't well received at all. Crisis Core had its fans, but I couldn't get into it. I don't think there's anything good about Final Fantasy VII other than the original game. Even Cloud in Smash Bros. wasn't great.
i was just talking about remake but yeah its all kinda been shit.

people used to tell me i was retarded because i wondered if final fantasy as a series was so far removed from what it was in 1997 that the current fanbase would even like or want a ff7 remake, ley alone 3 of them. and would old fans even care at this point or want an action game.

these are remakes that seemingly cater to absolutely nobody, and the downward sales trend justifies my original thoughts imo
 
I wonder how would FF7 Rebirth would have performed if they released it on the switch successor as a launch title would it have flopped all the same or is the nogamestation keeping it from selling gangbusters.
 
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Something tells me that nu-FF7 is trying to save most of the cast from the compilation to get a happy ending for all, without realizing how much of the OG story they had to erase.
 
I wonder how would FF7 Rebirth would have performed if they released it on the switch successor as a launch title would it have flopped all the same or is the nogamestation keeping it from selling gangbusters.
Would the 2nd Switch even handle Rebirth because I've been seeing some people have graphical issues with the game on their PS5.

Something tells me that nu-FF7 is trying to save most of the cast from the compilation to get a happy ending for all, without realizing how much of the OG story they had to erase.
But why though? Seriously? Does anyone even actually care about all that additional crap including Dirge of freaking Cerberus? If they did, why not just re-master or remake that stuff separately? Who the hek thought it would be a good idea to mash them altogether?
 
Would the 2nd Switch even handle Rebirth because I've been seeing some people have graphical issues with the game on their PS5.
The switch 2 is expected to be as powerful as a ps4 pro. You can probably reduce the graphics and the draw distance to make it run on it considering all the shit they were able to get it running on the switch and I suspect the game isn't optimized at all since it chugs even in performance mode.
 
Final Fantasy 1 should be like three bucks now.
I thought that was the whole collection for a second, $12 for just FF1 is unthinkable.

I know Dirge of Cerberus wasn't well received at all. Crisis Core had its fans, but I couldn't get into it.
DoC was decent, but not enough to finish.

CC really is pretty good, maybe a little overrated (the mission structure is kinda bad). It's worth playing just for the amazing ending imo (so basically you could just watch a playthrough or the cut scenes), one of the best I've seen. Was there anything specific you didn't like?

Would the 2nd Switch even handle Rebirth because I've been seeing some people have graphical issues with the game on their PS5.
If it can run on a base PS4 then a Switch should be able to match that performance at least. I'd imagine the game would be further optimized too.

Edit: I forgot it's only on PS5 for now, I'm used to PS4 getting virtually everything PS5 gets lol
 
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