Poll: Do you want sticker notifications back? - Not the score, just the notifications.

[Harvey Danger]

I’m not reading 100+ pages to figure out what the hell is going on here but I gather it has something to do with people complaining about getting neg-rated. Why not just ban those users?

Because it is vitally important to the health of the site that gay furry roleplayers feel safe enough to ERP in public threads, without fear of negative stickers being applied to their account. I am not making this up.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Now that we've had some time to spend without the notifications, I can confidently say that the way I use the Farms has changed. Mostly because there are threads I would visit less frequently but someone reacting to an older post brought me back to those threads to catch up on them. Sure, the site is perfectly navigable without them, but they did a convenient "Hey, this thread exists" reminder. They also acted as an unintentional quick link.

Granted, there are other features the site has to rectify this, but these are just the changes I notice in the way I personally use the Farms.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

Now that we've had some time to spend without the notifications, I can confidently say that the way I use the Farms has changed. Mostly because there are threads I would visit less frequently but someone reacting to an older post brought me back to those threads to catch up on them. Sure, the site is perfectly navigable without them, but they did a convenient "Hey, this thread exists" reminder. They also acted as an unintentional quick link.

Granted, there are other features the site has to rectify this, but these are just the changes I notice in the way I personally use the Farms.

I've been using the Watch feature and it sucks. It is less effective than sticker notifications were and clutters my front page.

 

[Persian Carpet Salesman]

Oh wow is this really about people being butthurt about negative reactions lololololol, it's even more retarded than I imagined

 

[Chibitzen]

I've been using the Watch feature and it sucks. It is less effective than sticker notifications were and clutters my front page.

I will give it this. I am not liking that I get notified almost as soon as I leave after I post in a busy watched thread that whoa surprise a post was made!... Also, there might be more posts! But you'll have to go back and see...

Anyway, I will probably take it off watch as I use the forum index/bookmarks more anyway as a lurker.

 

[Cascade]

What's the point of stickers now anyway? They used to fulfil exactly 3 functions:
1) Knowing what people think about a particular post
2) Notifications that someone has reacted to my post
3) Updoot system
The last 2 have stopped working, and the first one will die out on its own sooner or later.
Don't be gay. Remove the stickers altogether or bring them back as they were. There is no middle ground.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Now that we've had some time to spend without the notifications, I can confidently say that the way I use the Farms has changed. Mostly because there are threads I would visit less frequently but someone reacting to an older post brought me back to those threads to catch up on them. Sure, the site is perfectly navigable without them, but they did a convenient "Hey, this thread exists" reminder. They also acted as an unintentional quick link.

Granted, there are other features the site has to rectify this, but these are just the changes I notice in the way I personally use the Farms.

Agreed.

To borrow a post I made from the other thread:

I had a ~28000 score, meaning my ratio was 27 points per post. Lost like tears in the rain.

At least now I have no reason not to be an aggressive a-hole to people (within the limits of the rules of the site), neg ratings no longer have power over me.

If this was the desired outcome of this change, fair enough. But I think there are a lot of people like me that put more effort into being "good" civil posters because of good boy points.

I am a self-admitted faggot that liked the goodboy points. I found it generally led to me not spamming posts, aiming to only making quality posts, avoiding arguments, all due to the reinforcement of the points.

Whether it's better this way, I can't say. If Null hated the culture of the forum and wanted to drastically change it, so be it. But without a doubt, this will change the behavior of other pointfags like me. Now I don't care about making low quality or semi-OT posts , spamming responses, and starting fights (within the bounds of the rules of the forum).

This change will lead to a lot more people behaving in different manners, so expect more people acting like @WelperHelper99 (infinite postspam), @LORD IMPERATOR (can't or won't read the room), and countless ragetrollers (HHH comes to mind but there are countless for every viewpoint).

Whether that's a good thing or not, I'll leave to others. I have found myself not really giving stickers out anymore given how meaningless it is now, which unfortunately can have the knock-on effect of breaking the highlight system, arguably one of the strongest gem features of this forum.

 

[Chibitzen]

Oh wow is this really about people being butthurt about negative reactions lololololol, it's even more retarded than I imagined

But remember, stickers don't matter. Also give me back my retard alerts. I needed those, apparently, to obtain personal enlightenment.

 

[The Blue Morpho]

I am a self-admitted faggot that liked the goodboy points. I found it generally led to me not spamming posts, aiming to only making quality posts, avoiding arguments, all due to the reinforcement of the points.

The background insinuation hovering over this whole discussion that responding to social cues in a community makes you a sheep-like faggot is so autistic and midwitty that it physically hurts me. That is how people are, that is how communities work. Or do people only make that insinuation because the social cues and community in question are virtual? Is it because some faggots were gamifying it? As if people don't gamify the real life equivalents as well.

Don't even start crying reddit at me either, as if the Farms was anything like reddit a few days ago or is somehow measurably less like it now.

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

The background insinuation hovering over this whole discussion that responding to social cues in a community makes you a sheep-like faggot is so autistic and midwitty that it physically hurts me. That is how people are, that is how communities work. Or do people only make that insinuation because the social cues and community in question are virtual? Is it because some faggots were gamifying it? As if people don't gamify the real life equivalents as well.

Don't even start crying reddit at me either, as if the Farms was anything like reddit a few days ago or is somehow measurably less like it now.

Reddit is ruined by moderators and admins anyway, not votes.

Being downvoted is still heat. It’s just like pro-wrestling. Not getting any reaction is the only bad reaction.

 

[Chibitzen]

I am a self-admitted faggot that liked the goodboy points. I found it generally led to me not spamming posts, aiming to only making quality posts, avoiding arguments, all due to the reinforcement of the points.

Whether it's better this way, I can't say. If Null hated the culture of the forum and wanted to drastically change it, so be it. But without a doubt, this will change the behavior of other pointfags like me. Now I don't care about making low quality or semi-OT posts , spamming responses, and starting fights (within the bounds of the rules of the forum).

This change will lead to a lot more people behaving in different manners, so expect more people acting like @WelperHelper99 (infinite postspam), @LORD IMPERATOR (can't or won't read the room), and countless ragetrollers (HHH comes to mind but there are countless for every viewpoint).

Whether that's a good thing or not, I'll leave to others. I have found myself not really giving stickers out anymore given how meaningless it is now, which unfortunately can have the knock-on effect of breaking the highlight system, arguably one of the strongest gem features of this forum.

You're projecting your own neurosis onto the rest of the site. People don't "need" negative ratings to be good people. This isn't a church.

Most of my growth here as a user are from generous users who take the time to point out my flawed thinking in a reply. A "rating" is just that. Someone felt something about some random portion of a post and punched a button on their screen. It does have value, but it's not as effective of a tool at solving issues as helpful fellow members... unless you're a sticker collector.

 

[Seventh Star]

As a (former?) newfag, I once made the mistake of poking fun at someone swapping out their stickers on my post because not only was it odd but I had literally never seen anything like it before. I was promptly corrected not to even mention or "sperg" about them. Mmmk. Lesson learned, people are touchy about their stickers,

Then I see the posters here saying stickers help "keep people in line." But we're not an echo-chamber! "They are just stickers", etc

Null is 100,000% right. Activity is being driven by sticker collectors.

You're still a newfag and if you use the royal "we" ever again I will actually send all of the pizzas in the universe to your current place of residence.

Now that we've had some time to spend without the notifications, I can confidently say that the way I use the Farms has changed. Mostly because there are threads I would visit less frequently but someone reacting to an older post brought me back to those threads to catch up on them. Sure, the site is perfectly navigable without them, but they did a convenient "Hey, this thread exists" reminder. They also acted as an unintentional quick link.

Granted, there are other features the site has to rectify this, but these are just the changes I notice in the way I personally use the Farms.

I just lurk like two threads at a time now instead of reading a bunch of them like I did before. It's a great way to reduce the amount of active threads, exactly the opposite of what it was intended to do. Also the watch feature is not that good.

The background insinuation hovering over this whole discussion that responding to social cues in a community makes you a sheep-like faggot is so autistic and midwitty that it physically hurts me. That is how people are, that is how communities work. Or do people only make that insinuation because the social cues and community in question are virtual? Is it because some faggots were gamifying it? As if people don't gamify the real life equivalents as well.

Don't even start crying reddit at me either, as if the Farms was anything like reddit a few days ago or is somehow measurably less like it now.

People who use the dopamine excuse are weird to me. At that point why not remove posting altogether so you don't feel the dopamine rush of talking to people. It's para-social behaviour too, you know, the whole discussion/conversation thing.

What's the point of stickers now anyway? They used to fulfil exactly 3 functions:
1) Knowing what people think about a particular post
2) Notifications that someone has reacted to my post
3) Updoot system
The last 2 have stopped working, and the first one will die out on its own sooner or later.
Don't be gay. Remove the stickers altogether or bring them back as they were. There is no middle ground.

I agree with the post this user has made.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I am a self-admitted faggot that liked the goodboy points.

You fucking coward.

 

[Chibitzen]

You're still a newfag and if you use the royal "we" ever again I will actually send all of the pizzas in the universe to your current place of residence.

Well at least you took the time to properly reply. That's more effort than some people are apparently willing to go through to get the same result.

I will correct that post, because I was paraphrasing other users so it was meant to go in quotes.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Because this is not Reddit.

Says something when your whole reference point is reddit.

Long before reddit there were things called internet forums. They had reactions and ratings, and they were fun. It's leisure/amusement, not work, and your very intense, specific, and highly prescriptive instructions are way more obsessive and salty than [most] of the folks just saying, dang, I liked that and found it useful. Personally, I've been on another large forum on the (probably unmodified) Xenoforo platform before this one and I can recall consciously appreciating the relative efficiency of how information was made available here, including having notifications available, which mitigates against 50 "I agree" comments because people want to make sure the person they agree with knows their comment is supported.

People making comments - especially here - should put neg ratings in perspective. If you didn't want to be distracted by seeing a number on a bell, or wanted only to see reactions by going to look for them, that was an option. But anyone old enough to be here should also be grown enough to learn to self-regulate, or at least to insulate themselves from too-hurtful things, whether by turning off an information push, or by accepting that some people will always disagree with you in life, or by simply not posting stupid shit or shit in places you know will react negatively. And if your intention is to shit up threads, you can't reasonably claim harm when you get exactly what you trolled for.

Was a pleasure gentlemen.

A verbal fedora tip, nice!

 

[SwanSwanson]

Likely super late, but when were the colored join dates in-thread nuked? Is this a technical consequence of ripping user scores out, or something done on purpose because the odd fag got in stupid fights over this?

Screenshot in case this is just a me problem, and for posterity if it's an actual change and it gets reverted:

Within the last 16 hours of of me commenting this. It wasn't like this before I went to sleep yesterday. What is null doing? Who cares if someone gets called a newfag? I make fun of the oldheads all the time for thinking they're better for using the farms longer.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

You're projecting your own neurosis onto the rest of the site. People don't "need" negative ratings to be good people. This isn't a church.

Most of my growth here as a user are from generous users who take the time to point out my flawed thinking in a reply. A "rating" is just that. Someone felt something about some random portion of a post and punched a button on their screen. It does have value, but it's not as effective of a tool at solving issues as helpful fellow members... unless you're a sticker collector.

Well at least you took the time to properly reply. That's more effort than some people are apparently willing to go through to get the same result.

I will correct that post, because I was paraphrasing other users so it was meant to go in quotes.

No joke are you on the spectrum or some shit?

When did I say it was going to infest everyone on the site? I know my brand of autism isn't unique, and I have seen other users just like me. And I know how my posting behavior is already changing after this change. For example, I wouldn't have ever shitted up the thread with a response to your dumb ass back when stickers actually meant something to the poster.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Ratings at least tell me how people see my posts, so I can respond appropriately. If they want more of X, I'll give them X, but if they don't want it, I'll let tempers cool before responding again. I don't mind getting mountains of neg ratings since it actually does tell me that people don't like what I'm saying.

 

[Seventh Star]

No joke are you on the spectrum or some shit?

When did I say it was going to infest everyone on the site? I know my brand of autism isn't unique, and I have seen other users just like me. And I know how my posting behavior is already changing after this change. For example, I wouldn't have ever shitted up the thread with a response to your dumb ass back when stickers actually meant something to the poster.

I guess this is one way to up engagement.

 

[Chibitzen]

No joke are you on the spectrum or some shit?

When did I say it was going to infest everyone on the site? I know my brand of autism isn't unique, and I have seen other users just like me. And I know how my posting behavior is already changing after this change. For example, I wouldn't have ever shitted up the thread with a response to your dumb ass back when stickers actually meant something to the poster.

It's optimal that you responded, because I can respond back: I'm not suggesting others aren't like you. I'm rather sympathetic to your attempts to gain keen insight through connections to others. I'm only suggesting that not ALL are like you. We can persevere together, because stickers aren't the only way to interact on this website.