Edison Like Thread - Embrace our diesel-electric future

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Edison Motors is a company operating out of the (farm) backyard of the compnay owner's parent's house.
Their mission is to make diesel-electric semi trucks, semi truck that have a 100% electric drivetrain but uses an onboard diesel generator to produce power. They started with retrofitting classic truck like peterbuilts or kenmores with their new drivetrain, and have just produced the first prototype of they fully in-house truck and plan to produce more. They are fully privately owned, with their capital investments coming from future buyers invested in the company's future, and not stock traders or mutual funds that only care about making a profit on their return.
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Their plan is to build Semis that are extremely easy to repair by the customer, that gain the high torque of an electric vehicle, and the fuel savings from being able to have regenerative braking and a generator that solely runs at it's most efficient rpm. It will not have the range anxieties that a 100% electric vehicle suffers from. They fully embrace the right-to-repair philosophy and use as many off-the-shelf parts as possible to ensure that any company that buys it's trucks can fully repair it as needed.


Also, they are in the process of making a retrofit kit to convert old (or new, but why?) heavy-duty pickup trucks to their diesel-electric platform. There will ba a RWD kit that provides the equivalent of 350hp, and a 4x4 kit that provides 500 Hp, 8,800 ft-lb torque. Thay are in the process of inviting dealers to partner with them, and they will sell the dealers the kits to install into restored trucks. Minimum order is one kit, so you could choose to find a dirt cheap junker that's been sitting since the 60's and restore it into a powerful electric that makes the Cybertruck look like a kid's toy (not that it needs much help)


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This I find pretty exciting as it will be much more environmentally friendly to recycle an old truck over manufacturing a new disposable electric. Plus it uses modular components that are easy to service and replace and you can use mass produced parts for the original truck chassis. They're currently in the process of finding shops who will partner to handle the refurbishing of trucks. They think that the cost of the kit will be "33%-50% of the cost of a new truck" whish is disappointing vague as I don't know what they are considering the cost of a new truck, but if one of their partners focuses on finding and refurbishing trucks with good frames but dead engines, that could be a decent supply of trucks at a reasonable price.

If this does well then it's reasonable to assume they will eventually offer kits to convert light duty SUVs or trucks, and even cars.

Honestly I think a lot of people would. If anyone is close with a shop that does a lot of restorations or work on vehicles they might be interested in this.

I'm hoping the number work out enough that it's very profitable to find old trucks with dead drivetrains and retrofit them to be electric.

Take this 1941 international Harvester or this 1939 Dodge you can get for less then a couple grand. If it was restored and with an electric drivetrain it would be an awesome truck.
 
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Edison Motors will be working with Deboss Garage for the first electric pickup - the same YouTube creator that put Sherman tank treads on a pickup
 
Now this is the kind of EV technology that I can get behind. If the range is comparable (or I would assume greater) then this is a huge advancement. One thing about EV trucks that will never work is the maintenance/range. I'm preaching to the choir, but these trucks do so many fucking miles it's insane, so the batteries would get obliterated in a record time and the mechanics need to have a PhD in electrical engineering for basic stuff. Plus the whole cost of replacing the batteries would almost not be worth it, so that's also another negative.

Just praying this isn't another Nikola Motors.
 
There is a joke here that Tesla is the big business, centrally controlled EV company with the power of big money and Edison is the one with far more worries about efficient tech and proper advancement of the technology. And Nikola was the scammer of the bunch.
 
What is interesting is this technology has been around for a while in heavy cargo and public transportation. Diesel-Electric rail traction (most modern locos are either diesel-electric or diesel-hydraulic) and buses with a diesel-electric architecture have been a thing for a while.
Machines such as the Stadler EuroDual are possible because the wheels are driven by motor with a VFD drive, and it does not matter if you are getting your angry pixies from overhead power or burning hydrocarbons to spin a generator. But that's for the rail nerds to elaborate on.
Big question is when are we going to see some random dude from Poland show off a ICE-hydraulic passenger car? (to prove it is possible)
 
This is exactly the sort of kit I've been looking for. I could throw it in my old jeep.
 
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This is extraordinarily interesting. An easily repaired vehicle is super valuable due to lower long term costs. The regenerative braking could be absolutely massive as well. If you are a large trucking company especially if you send trucks through a lot of cities and not on the highway these look fantastic. Though I question how durable the electronics are how the energy storage element works and the implications that has.

One thing to note this vehicle has both an electric motors and an engine meaning that there are now two failure points and both costs more than one.
This means that the components will inherently cost more than usual however, it might be made up by the fuel efficiency and low repair costs.

There are all kinds of questions about these things that I won't get into from an engineering perspective but i'm very curious.
 
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