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Woman Says 20-Year-Old Traditional Wives Become Single Moms At 40​

Choosing to become a "tradwife," or traditional wife, in your early 20s is a huge life decision. While most young adults are enjoying the freedom of independence for the first time, these wives have traded burgeoning careers and higher education for diapers and domestic responsibility.

The problem with this narrative is not that tradwives want to be homemakers, it's that these young moms end up sacrificing their own individual paths while their husbands grow in their careers. These moms may even find themselves single by the time they reach 40, having dedicated their lives to a man who may not have been the right match.

One woman shared her controversial opinion about young, traditional wives inevitably becoming single by their 40s.​

Anya Jovita posted a video on TikTok to discuss her opposition to young women making drastic decisions that will likely inhibit them from following their own individual paths.

Her argument centered around the idea that every woman is entitled to her own personal life choices, but women should be cognizant of the challenges they will face when they set their lives aside to be tradwives to a man they met in their 20s.

“The entire stability of your life cannot rely on a man that you marry in your 20s wanting you for the next 60 years,” Jovita emphasized.

Young love can be blinding, but how can a woman be so sure the man she is dedicating her life to will always be there no matter what? How can she be sure that he, or she, won’t eventually have a change of heart?

The decision to marry is not one to be taken lightly, and there are countless factors to consider and discuss before individuals should officially seal the deal. When young men and women choose to marry at the height of their emotions, they are neglecting the challenges and difficulties that are bound to happen later on.

“What happens when you’re ready to walk away, but you have no job experience, no bank account, nothing, because your entire future relied on this guy, this one human being, wanting you forever?” Jovita exclaimed.

When a woman chooses to depend on a man for support and security, she is giving up her autonomy.​

Young parenthood can be challenging, but it offers its own rewards that can be just as gratifying as any other experience. However, it’s important to note that young parenthood does not necessarily equate to the path of a traditional stay-at-home mom. There are many different options parents can explore.

When a young woman makes the decision to marry and rely solely on her husband, she loses the opportunity to have her own sense of freedom and independence. “Our grandmothers had to fight the U.S. government to get bank accounts, and barely even 50 years later, y’all are voluntarily giving them up,” Jovita expressed.

There's no guarantee that the man you fall for in your 20s will be the husband of your dreams for the rest of your lives together, no matter what he leads you to believe.

In fact, research suggests that 30% of white couples who plan "shotgun weddings" end up divorced later on in life. This is due to the impulsive decision to marry for the sake of their child, rather than for genuine, unconditional love for each other.

That being said, it seems irrational to base a lifelong decision on a fleeting moment of love, especially when that decision involves the sacrifice of your career.

With an emphasis on women's empowerment in today’s world, the prevalence of tradwives begs the question: Why are women still sacrificing their autonomy for men?​

Surely, there are rare occasions of finding genuine love early in life, and some women are lucky enough to find a man whom they can trust will take care of them. Yet, just because this stability is available to you does not mean you should willingly abandon your own purpose.

Regardless of a woman’s thought process behind the risky decisions she makes, Judge Judy’s advice from "The Ellen Show" continues to ring true today when it comes to ensuring individual freedom and independence in relationships.

“Once a woman gives up financial independence to a mate, it’s over. Because there's not an equality anymore,” Judge Judy explained. “You don't necessarily have to use your craft, use your career, but you have to be prepared, because if you're not prepared, you’re stuck, and more women have to accept lifestyles that are unpleasant because they are financially stuck.”
 
you're expecting women not to take the position of victimhood rather than one of responsibility
I'm expecting both side to step back and think about what exactly they're doing. For one broken by feminist brainwashing woman there's a broken by incel/redpill man. It's now pointless to blame one or the other, both are fucked up too much to continue this war

Yes, a woman should strive to raise kids and take care of the home and be dependent on the husband

Yes, a man should provide for his wife and children and be ostracized for not marrying and living like a child.

Both of the above must happen at the same time
 
People posting on Kiwi Farms should probably refrain from accusing other users of being broken or weird. It's a-logs all the way down here.

TL;DR: Don't tag me into this bullshit GTFO
Too late, here you are, lol.
 
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People posting on Kiwi Farms should probably refrain from accusing other users of being broken or weird. It's a-logs all the way down here.

TL;DR: Don't tag me into this bullshit GTFO
Yes, but only one of us is a journalist
 
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The simple answer for this is the for man to help the wife set up an emergency fund ($10k or so) for the future that is hers for anything, particularly the death of the man and insurance in case he ever goes insane or turns abusive, and to help her cultivate real-world skills even as she cares for the children at home, possibly even ones that would be useful at home but not necessarily. That's how I do things or would do. I held off breaking off with my first ex until she was fully paid off on her college loans just for her sake. I'm a big believer in acquiring new skills all throughout your life and teaching others and IMO that should be normal for everyone. Most people in America spend money like fucking idiots, if you're not a materialist Burgerperson you can save money up fast if you live beneath your means.
 
I'm expecting both side to step back and think about what exactly they're doing. For one broken by feminist brainwashing woman there's a broken by incel/redpill man. It's now pointless to blame one or the other, both are fucked up too much to continue this war

Yes, a woman should strive to raise kids and take care of the home and be dependent on the husband

Yes, a man should provide for his wife and children and be ostracized for not marrying and living like a child.

Both of the above must happen at the same time
You seem under the impression incel/redpill types want to be that way or are that way to begin with. That the manchild behavior is integral to that identity rather than another byproduct of how rotten society has become. Ask any if they'd trade whatever NEET or miserable life they have now for a traditional one, and they'd say yes in a heartbeat.

The one who doesn't want to play their role the most is women. I don't know how anyone can be under the impression it isn't. So much dysfunction in modern society and the sexes stems from saying anyone can be what they want but the unsaid judgement everyone has that they should still fulfill their roles. When the hell have you ever heard a man in your life that was reputable in anyway say a man shouldn't be a man? I've never heard a non-soyboy say men should be soyboys. Women? I've lost count of the bullshit, even from reputable ones. Don't mistake this for being terminally online: too many women in my honest to god life say men should be two different things and women should be whatever the hell they want.

Both-sideism is nonsensical and if anything would be proof they're irreconcilable if that's the case. Every time, even here of all places, you try to say they've been especially irresponsible. "What about the man?" The people who think women are just as capable as men blame men for their mistakes or for allowing them to happen. How are you supposed to approach this nonsense?
 
Lolwut?! The Author is a nigger? I was expecting some self aggrandizing stupid white bitch with glasses, no makeup and a tattoo of Valerie Solanas. Isn't it like only %15 of niggers actually get married prior to kids? It's like %75 single moms isn't it?! Choose to a be trad wife? Nigger, getting knocked up and a speedy courtroom marriage is not making a choice to be a trad wife, it's fixing the problem of you being to fucking dumb to understand birth control.

Can some please explain to this retarded nigger there is no such thing as a "planned- shotgun wedding", everything this person said after that phrase itself was not to be even considered. Who the fuck writes a published article on relationships and doesn't know what a shotgun wedding is? Even niggers can google the phrase. Jesus Christ journalists are dumb, nobody proof read this?
 
Where does morality come from? I mean this in the Big Thunk sense, not just the answer has to be from God.
Not being a narcissistic or sociopathic asshole that thinks women and kids are property they can treat however they want for one.

I would hope most people have their own internal sense of morality that tell them beating their kids and raping their wife is wrong. Unfortunately trad types seem to lack that.
 
Not being a narcissistic or sociopathic asshole that thinks women and kids are property they can treat however they want for one.

I would hope most people have their own internal sense of morality that tell them beating their kids and raping their wife is wrong. Unfortunately trad types seem to lack that.
Ah yes all those parents who troon out their sons and daughters are the deeply religious bible thumping kind I'm sure
 
I'm expecting both side to step back and think about what exactly they're doing.

Why would you expect a woman to be able to do this?

Tradwife according to young women: Stay at home mom playing dress up

Tradwife according to many men: Woman that cares about her husband and maybe have kids eventually

The women get upset because they notice the guys aren't providing for the entire household which confuses guys that just wanted a loving wife and kids. The arguments about tradwives get retarded because women get tunnel vision only paying attention to the lifestyle that they think means not having to work.

No, the women get upset because they don't think marriage should involve any obligations for them whatsoever, particularly not caring for another human being or fulfilling her evolutionary role in the species. The only reason to get married is because it completes you, the ideal of marriage in the 21st century is something that gives and fulfils without requiring anything from you other than what you feel like doing anyway.
 
Instead single mothers Clever Hans'ing their kids into troondom is a better ticket.
Most kids trooning out are adolescent girls trying to escape the fucked up shit about being a girl.
Ah yes all those women who troon out their sons and daughters are the deeply religious bible thumping kind I'm sure
Actually a lot of girls who troon out do come from conservative/religious upbringings. With how girls are treated in those environments its no wonder so many say fuck this shit.
 
Women overwhelmingly initiate more breakups than men. The number I always hear thrown around is 70-80%.

Even the divorce rate for lesbians is 2x that of gay men.
Occasionally though the men absolutely deserved it. In fact, I stayed with my ex far, far too long. I put up with so much of his shit because of our daughter and other reasons. I really wanted to work things out but he refused, so there that is. The reasons why were something like he didn't think he deserved to be taken back, among other bizarre things that happened on his part. It is just mind boggling to me in retrospect, but the upside is that I found a man who is the complete opposite of my ex's self-lothing self and I love him so much, I can't even. 🥰 Taught me that I shouldn't have put up with me ex's abusive shit as long I did, but that's all water under the bridge now. Just is what it is.
 
Most kids trooning out are adolescent girls trying to escape the fucked up shit about being a girl.

Actually a lot of girls who troon out do come from conservative/religious upbringings. With how girls are treated in those environments its no wonder so many say fuck this shit.
No, they're doing so because of Tiktok and peer pressure horseshit out of social contagion from influence, which is why we are seeing an uptick in trans identifying females. There's no one single thing that would make someone react as transgender, it is a confluence of things but it is ultimately a form of attention seeking in most these days. Angry faces on your phone telling you how terrible you have it is not information, it is not reality. You're not oppressed, you're just a social media addict and swallow the messaging. Men are moving more conservative now so the trend has diminished a bit in younger men. As women keep slanting further to the left thanks to social media propaganda you will see more and more of this. I would not confuse leftwing horseshit with reality if I were you. You're not as oppressed as you think you are, and nothing ever would or could be good enough for you. Trannydom among women is almost always, ALWAYS included with extreme radical communist politics.

Fuck, I knew a chick that went tranny and they did so after joining the Something Awful forums, lmao. Absolute narcissist, and girly as fuck until they fell in with hipsters and the kind of people you see online.

Trannies just prey on traumatized people like any other cult or such.

edit: for example, my very own avatarsake, Nina Hagen, has commented on this, which I found fairly recently:

"In the name of Humanity, Human Rights & Human Dignity,
please let me share my own personal memory of my teenage+puberty-time:
I very well do remember the rather short period of times, where I hated it, having to keep growing into a young woman. At 12 years young i was sexually + emotionally abused, and then outcasted from my circle of friends, (i wrote about it in my autobiography "Bekenntnisse" a.k.a. "confessions") + i started dressing up like a grunge boy even before grunge was invented. I grew my hair like Brian Jones from The Stones, hated the growth of my infronts and tried to wear HUGE t-shirts trying to hide them. Together with Sabine Frost, a girlfriend of mine, I went to a teenage-dance-party at her school-disco, I wanted to test out, if I could ask another girl to dance with me, without her suspecting me NOT to be a boy. Noone did suspect anything. It felt good for me, it gave me a sense of freedom from being limited by society as being "only a girl". Now, after much thought + listening to many detransitioners, including reading Erin`s book, I think, I might have fallen victim to "childhood + teenage-sex-change" advocates - if that kind of atrocity would have been propagated and offered in my times. (I grew up "behind" the iron curtain in eastgermany) But as I`ve gotten older day by day, i dared to LOVE being me, a "female", as i did all through my childhood already anyways. And I can testify that (my) puberty was a time of enormeous changes and "soulsearching" + I believe that children during their childhood and puberty should be cared for with love + patience, but not with puberty blockers.
In Solidarity with DetransAdNet & with all the young people who jump to conclusions to fast to quick. With Love from Nina, a sister and a mother."

I'm not denying that someone can react this way due to trauma, but we are seeing increased rates now, yet more protections for women than ever. It cannot be because, simply, women are escaping only "the fucked up parts of being a girl." Were male to female young trannies escaping "the fucked up parts of being a boy?"

The irony is, AR, the more you push this shit, the more you inadvertently make trannydom seem to "make sense" to young, impressionable, and confused women.
 
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IMO women should have marketable skills, being a thot doesn’t count, because there’s always the risk of the man dying or leaving. It’s fine to be a stay at home mom. But imo women should have something to fall back onto. Furthermore, even if one is a mom, that only really lasts for a few years. What will you do when the kids grow up?
They did from time immemorial until the 1950s (for the working and middle classes at least) for that exact reason, when a sudden explosion of wealth led to the "tradwife" meme. What we're seeing now is the beginning of a return to actual tradition or rather the norm. A lot of the jobs weren't even physically demanding as such, but they were necessary jobs (like being a teacher, church organist or helping out with the farm, etc.) and didn't lead to the typical middle class boredom that a lot of women experience when the nest is empty. It also probably helped put a lot of relationships seeing that a man could rely on his wife to help him out with his job and not be a net drain on resources, which is probably one of the bigger reasons relationships don't work out today.

This isn't wrong, tbh. When Elizabeth Warren wasn't larping as a Cherokee or whatever, she made lecture that had a massive impression on my life.


But what she meant by it was that the woman should just be the secondary and emergency source of income, never the full-time one, and you should only live on one income if possible, even if you both work. She was not saying that women should or shouldn't work, but if they do then just live like you don't and save the money she makes.
Looks genuinely interesting. I'll look at this later (in a private window because I don't want Pocahontas here in my recommendations). Thank you.
 
No, they're doing so because of Tiktok and peer pressure horseshit out of social contagion from influence, which is why we are seeing an uptick in trans identifying females. There's no one single thing that would make someone react as transgender, it is a confluence of things but it is ultimately a form of attention seeking in most these days. Angry faces on your phone telling you how terrible you have it is not information, it is not reality. You're not oppressed, you're just a social media addict and swallow the messaging. Men are moving more conservative now so the trend has diminished a bit in younger men. As women keep slanting further to the left thanks to social media propaganda you will see more and more of this. I would not confuse leftwing horseshit with reality if I were you. You're not as oppressed as you think you are, and nothing ever would or could be good enough for you. Trannydom among women is almost always, ALWAYS included with extreme radical communist politics.

Fuck, I knew a chick that went tranny and they did so after joining the Something Awful forums, lmao. Absolute narcissist, and girly as fuck until they fell in with hipsters and the kind of people you see online.

Trannies just prey on traumatized people like any other cult or such.
Try getting sexually harassed by adult men from age 10 onward and get back to me
 
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