Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[That Other Dude's Persona]

Blocking is bad when Eric July does it.
Blocking and block lists are great when Ethan Van Sciver, Jon Malin, Shane Davis and every other creator of note in comicsgate does it.

He did mention at some point that it's bad when other people do it too, when it was pointed out that CGers do it as well, but he claimed he wasn't aware of that. He seems to have gone back to that talking point.

@motts337 Is this a personal thing with July? Assuming you're a disappointed Rippa customer and not just a Juju fan that got blocked, how do you feel about comic book industry veteran EVS promoting what you see as shitty products (Rippaverse comics) for over a year?

 

[Absurdity]

To break it down for Motts: this really started because Eric wrongfully expected loyalty and discretion from Shiverfrog in not critiquing his stuff instead of letting Shiverfrog do what he does best: talk crap when it's convenient and throat-puffing and leaking DMs because he never grew up around responsible adult men who handled their affairs honorably. In short, he expected the Froghog to treat him the way he himself treated the Froghog up to that point. All Ethan does to make himself feel special is to lower the playing field around him. I don't even think this would have happened at all had Eric's success been mid or low tier CeeGee.

 

[Sewer Rat]

To break it down for Motts: this really started because Eric wrongfully expected loyalty and discretion from Shiverfrog in not critiquing his stuff instead of letting Shiverfrog do what he does best: talk crap when it's convenient and throat-puffing and leaking DMs because he never grew up around responsible adult men who handled their affairs honorably. In short, he expected the Froghog to treat him the way he himself treated the Froghog up to that point. All Ethan does to make himself feel special is to lower the playing field around him. I don't even think this would have happened at all had Eric's success been mid or low tier CeeGee.

The moment CG people started saying that July was taking money that should be theirs or for other "smaller creators" it was clear that it was all about money and envy towards July's success

 

[FedPostalService]

Did we scare @FROG away?

 

[Shazam]

He did mention at some point that it's bad when other people do it too, when it was pointed out that CGers do it as well, but he claimed he wasn't aware of that. He seems to have gone back to that talking point.

@motts337 Is this a personal thing with July? Assuming you're a disappointed Rippa customer and not just a Juju fan that got blocked, how do you feel about comic book industry veteran EVS promoting what you see as shitty products (Rippaverse comics) for over a year?

Personally, I don't find anything wrong with blocking disingenuous retards who never had any intention of having an actual discussion with you. Blocklists and mass blocking people you've never interacted with are bad yes. I don't really see why people conflate the two.

 

[Sewer Rat]

Did we scare @FROG away?

I'm inclined to believe that his ego is so big that he believed that we were all going to be starstruck and forget about his pedophile asociations and dogfuckery, and we would instead inmediately start to suck him off

 

[Still Exceptional]

I love how EVS shows up and acts like nothing has changed, like we haven't been paying attention. Kinda makes me think he broke our most sacred commandment: LURK MORE!

He would have known people here soured on him because he's been behaving really shitty the last couple years. He's failed to fulfill campaigns while attacking a man who has actually fulfilled his own. He screeches about the Stolkas sisters being degenerates after basically saying "It's none of my business if Vito is a pedo!" He pals around with people who are either pedos themselves (Dick and Vito) or if they're not pedos they for some headfucked reason want to "de-stigmatize" pedophilia so pedos aren't treated like the scum everyone knows they are. (Vito has claimed he "just wants compassion" for the poor downtrodden pedos, and I've quickly learned that NOBODY who advocates for this sort of shit is doing so out of some genuine misguided compassion for mentally sick people, but out of self interest because they themselves are mentally sick.)

Then of course the fucker demands to know why we don't go after Eric July? Well, how about we just look at the behavior of Eric July vs his detractors. Has July showed up at anyone else's place of business? Has Eric gone and pissed on the actual grave of one of his detractors dead family?

What has Eric done? Oh, hes thin skinned? He blocks and reports people? SO DO DICK AND VITO WHICH THEY'VE ADMITTED. So guess what, thin skin doesn't mean shit to you. That behavior is fine with you when it's from your fucking toadies and cockriders.

He associates with the Stolkas sisters? Please, you associate with Vito and Dick. You have absolutely 0 moral ground to stand on here in terms of guilt by association. Your moral standing on that end is a bottomless fucking pit, in fact.

His comics suck? SO FUCKING WHAT!? DON'T BUY THEM! You know, if a guy with a "shitty" product is such a fucking threat to you that you have to devote sizable chunks of a goddamn podcast to screeching about him and trying to destroy his business it says more about YOU than it does him. It says your product and business model are even worse so you need to kill the competition so you have none at all to look bad in comparison to.

 

[Captain Manning]

Well a thread could have worked, but you like said it failed because it was basically a list of shit that Dax, Nick and Ethan did to HIM instead of talking about his political takes or whatever.

It was written like a PA request (in that particular case, for the benefit of Dick Masterson), which tend to be identified easily enough around here, and result in the ridicule of the person making the request. The author of the stillborn July thread found that out. Rekieta found that out last month. Now it's FROG's turn to be educated I guess.

I don't even think July's political takes are really all that interesting, but that might be because I have heard a lot of ANCAP claptrap in my time, and have become almost desensitized to it. I think it's a ridiculous, reactionary, and ultimately unworkable political philosophy, but not really all that shocking or funny anymore.

I suppose "Bitch ass roads" is mildly amusing but, to July's credit (and of extreme importance to all that's been going on lately), he's thus far avoided the absolute worst pitfall in all of lolbertarianism: "Okay, but what if the child consents?"

This is quite unlike some of his enemies. Ethan is over there conceding Vito is a pedo, and then trying to draw a false equivalency between Vito and Lewis Carrol. That's utterly bonkers. It only serves to make July look like the more rational party in this slap fight.

I don't even think this would have happened at all had Eric's success been mid or low tier CeeGee.

It wouldn't. They would probably still be nominal allies.

The major catalyst for EVS's meltdown is that he surpassed Caesar. He'll never admit it, mind you, but that's exactly what this is.

 

[Fleetwood]

Ethan can only appropriate youtube content. The anti-Eric July stuff is copying other channels that did it first. Comicsgate itself was appropriated from YBZ, Cummings, Ernst and Englentine. For a while he was appropriating the Fandom Menace and made Star Wars content. Coming next/currently is appropriation of Killstream / R.O.T.C sektur drama.

 

[ExGater]

I'm sure cancelling younger artist in CG and trading them for a dogfucker, a self proclaimed pedo, and autistic furry onlyfans girl will help CG turn the tides of the culture war and help them gain back the momentum that Eric July stole from them!

Classic #CANCELPIG Ethan move. He honestly thought he could come in here and rile you up and sick you on his enemies like rabid war dogs. And all the artists he CANCELLED are sitting back watching @FROG dig himself deeper and deeper.

It's my educated guess that the artists he CANCELLED are going to be getting together soon to form an artists collective to run in direct competition with EVS. If/when that happens, expect him to go FULL #CANCELPIG, frothing at the mouth and pounding on his desk.

And hey, Ethan.I know you're still following this thread to keep tabs on your ever growing army of enemies and detractors. How does it feel having come in here and then, when your plan went sideways, you ran out of here like the cowardly faggot you are? MANGINA. You make Dylan Mulvaney look like Sam Elliot.

 

[Exwarito]

Reset my password! I’m back, Kiwis!

This faggot blocked me on Twitter for making funny memes about him. And has the audacity to call Eric July weak for not taking criticism. Ethan Van Sciver is not a clown he is the full circus. He is now sending night letters to the farms to investigate his enemies .

 

[Fleetwood]

Classic #CANCELPIG Ethan move. He honestly thought he could come in here and rile you up and sick you on his enemies like rabid war dogs. And all the artists he CANCELLED are sitting back watching @FROG dig himself deeper and deeper.

It's my educated guess that the artists he CANCELLED are going to be getting together soon to form an artists collective to run in direct competition with EVS. If/when that happens, expect him to go FULL #CANCELPIG, frothing at the mouth and pounding on his desk.

And hey, Ethan.I know you're still following this thread to keep tabs on your ever growing army of enemies and detractors. How does it feel having come in here and then, when your plan went sideways, you ran out of here like the cowardly faggot you are? MANGINA. You make Dylan Mulvaney look like Sam Elliot.

Stop threatening and do something coward

 

[FluffyJackal]

The moment CG people started saying that July was taking money that should be theirs or for other "smaller creators" it was clear that it was all about money and envy towards July's success

Wasn't that "taking money away from smaller creators" horsecrap the excuse that soyfaced cuck faggots supposedly gave for harassing Keanu Reeves for crowdfunding a comic book himself?

 

[Shazam]

Daddy Elon just acknowledged Eric's existence. Apocalypse incoming. Link.
EDIT: Should've screencapped it at that part but Eric's actually in the video and is talking in the clip.

 

[The Tall Man]

To break it down for Motts: this really started because Eric wrongfully expected loyalty and discretion from Shiverfrog in not critiquing his stuff instead of letting Shiverfrog do what he does best: talk crap when it's convenient and throat-puffing and leaking DMs because he never grew up around responsible adult men who handled their affairs honorably. In short, he expected the Froghog to treat him the way he himself treated the Froghog up to that point.

You make EVS seem based.

EVS should always say all the negative things he sees in other people's comics; that is literally the only good thing that comes from the guy.

When he praises one of his CG buddies' work, his reviews suck.

The problem isn't that he criticizes poor EJ; it's that he doesn't do that with the people in his own club.

I watched his review of ISOM #1, and there was nothing wrong with his critique.
I would have gone harder against not just the art but the story too, but EVS' stories suck, so he probably isn't all that great at realizing how bad ISOM's story is.

I would rather all independent comic creators have animosity towards each other and tell me if another's comic sucks, rather than it be a big happy club that is always nice to each other.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Wasn't that "taking money away from smaller creators" horsecrap the excuse that soyfaced cuck faggots supposedly gave for harassing Keanu Reeves for crowdfunding a comic book himself?

Yeah, same shit happened when Brandon Sanderson, a prolific YA sci-fi/fantasy author, used kickstarter to fund some books and broke all kickstarter records by a wide margin, then YA twittertard writers screeched the exact same lines, just with "books" instead of "comics." These people exist in all places, they can only bitch and complain and it's best to just ignore them and deliver.

 

[Absurdity]

You make EVS seem based.

EVS should always say all the negative things he sees in other people's comics; that is literally the only good thing that comes from the guy.

When he praises one of his CG buddies' work, his reviews suck.

The problem isn't that he criticizes poor EJ; it's that he doesn't do that with the people in his own club.

I watched his review of ISOM #1, and there was nothing wrong with his critique.

I would have gone harder against not just the art but the story too, but EVS' stories suck, so he probably isn't all that great at realizing how bad ISOM's story is.

I would rather all independent comic creators have animosity towards each other and tell me if another's comic sucks, rather than it be a big happy club that is always nice to each other.

Debased because he only rips into people when it's convenient and he feels they're disposable. Eric should never have been in his circle to begin with, but Sciverfrog took him in for the views. The absolute snake move was when he leaked the DMs. Now had Eric ever gone to a creative arts school of any kind, he would have been able to take the rather light initial critique Ethan offered.

I don't find it hard to believe Ethan knew this and was getting ready for the showdown in advance but his ego blinded him to the optics and he is rapidly approaching his auto destruct phase with Dick & Vito & Ralfalpha in tow. Besides, nobody on top of nobody expected Isom to be any good and the fact that the overall competence of the series already places it in the top 5 of all CeeGee sleaze offerings speaks for itself.

No matter how Ethan decided to approach this, it was doomed to flop harder than a Ragepig revenge tour of Portugal. He could have made a complete admission of personal and professional failure, but that would probably be a bullet-pilled moment for him.

 

[The Tall Man]

Debased because he only rips into people when it's convenient and he feels they're disposable. Eric should never have been in his circle to begin with, but Sciverfrog took him in for the views. The absolute snake move was when he leaked the DMs. Now had Eric ever gone to a creative arts school of any kind, he would have been able to take the rather light initial critique Ethan offered.

I don't find it hard to believe Ethan knew this and was getting ready for the showdown in advance but his ego blinded him to the optics and he is rapidly approaching his auto destruct phase with Dick & Vito & Ralfalpha in tow. Besides, nobody on top of nobody expected Isom to be any good and the fact that the overall competence of the series already places it in the top 5 of all CeeGee sleaze offerings speaks for itself.

No matter how Ethan decided to approach this, it was doomed to flop harder than a Ragepig revenge tour of Portugal. He could have made a complete admission of personal and professional failure, but that would probably be a bullet-pilled moment for him.

The great thing is all parties involved can be complete low-life scum, and you can still get something out of them if they attack each other.

But if the same pieces of trash are chummy with each other, you can get nothing out of it.
A group that is nice to each other are all these media culture commentators in the larger FNT and EFAP sphere, aka the griftosphere.
Many of them praised God of War and called all the White erasure not a big deal and not really woke (LMAO, Niggers inserted into Norse Mythology isn't woke?), now want nobody to remember that, because Sweet Baby has worked on that game.
And because they are all such chummy friends, they will not call each other out.

This is just the most recent example. They have all shown not to care about what they claim to care about—the degeneration of media. What they care about is making super berries and getting headpats for their outrage videos.
They are completely useless to anyone; all their fans are either parasocial weirdos, complete dementoids, or simply haven't tuned out yet due to laziness.
It's also extremely telling what low moral value they all have when considering those rad fem sisters; all the critique they ever throw at modern media is from the anti-feminism angle. But they are on their team, so kid gloves it is.
That is what you get when you have some online community where everyone is nice to each other.

If you listen to the above-mentioned griftosphere, then you would think ISOM is a great comic, but it sucks.


EVS' criticism of ISOM is 100% correct; that doesn't magically improve his personal character or his own comic or make the people he associates with the good guys.

The majority of the people around EJ and EVS are scum.

The only rational position here is a third position, which allows you to enjoy them ripping into each other, without trying to argue which piece of shit smells better.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

Seems like it’s just me going after RIPPAVERSE because it sucks and Eric can’t take criticism.

care to explain why this page isn’t going after him? On time books?

who are the pedos (aside from Vito) and the revenge pornographer?

He's not the one creating the drama. Seems like he's the one carrying out ZACK'S dream (Because everything started with Zack, not you) better than you are, and you're salty about it.

 

[Absurdity]

I never thought I'd see Sciverfrog unravel like this, and I must say that I am richly enjoying the arc. It's not that he's technically wrong about Isom, it's that he's a tremendous homosexual hypocrite. He deserves this many times over and suddenly he's finding himself out maneuvered by an upstart who isn't even an artist or a good writer. Ethan isn't in a minimally optical position to be honest about anyone else because he can't be honest with his own tremendous mismanagement within his own brand, which is now trash and pointless to buy into by any reasonable human being.

And that is why Eric is immune from Frog's poison darts and why Frog is redarted by his own retarded petard. The only hot take available to him now is a total acknowledgement of failure to teh "movement". The prognosis is brutal: he will never be based again. For now, Rippa can dance on the CeeGee grave with peace signs galore, regardless of his own specialness.

Oh and Mr. Tall Man, I officially give you permission to expand your paragraphs beyond one sentence!