Disaster Angela Chao may have died after accidentally putting her Tesla in reverse, a mistake she made before, WSJ reports

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Angela Chao may have died after accidentally putting her Tesla in reverse, a mistake she made before, WSJ reports​

  • Angela Chao, Foremost Group CEO, died on February 11 in a car accident near Austin.
  • Authorities said she may have drowned when her Tesla submerged into a pond.
  • The Wall Street Journal reported that Chao may have accidentally put her Tesla in reverse.
Angela Chao, Foremost Group CEO and younger sister of former US Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, may have accidentally put her Tesla in reverse while making a three-point turn, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Chao died on February 11 after her vehicle was found submerged in a pond located by her sprawling, 900-acre private ranch in Blanco County, Texas, about 12 miles outside Austin. She was 50.

Blanco County Sheriffs told Austin American-Statesmanthat Chao may have "succumbed from being under the water."

But details of how Chao's Tesla ended up in the pond have not yet been divulged by authorities, leading some people, including J. Kyle Bass, a prominent hedge fund manager and founder of Texas-based Hayman Capital Management, to question if the Tesla was hacked.

"Does the Blanco County Sheriff have the technical capacity to investigate the Tesla logs to determine if the car was tampered with or even hacked?" Bass wrote on X. "This case continues to become more and more suspicious."

In a letter to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton dated February 29, which was obtained by Business Insider, a Blanco County public information officer wrote that, while the preliminary investigation indicated that the incident was an "unfortunate accident … the Sherriff's Office is still investigating this accident as a criminal matter until they have sufficient evidence to rule out criminal activity."

A spokesman for the Blanco County sheriffs did not respond to a request for comment sent outside working hours.

Based on interviews with people close to Chao, county officials, and reviews of law enforcement documents, the Journal reported that the incident may have happened while the Foremost CEO was making a four-minute drive back to her ranch.
After a Friday evening celebrating Lunar New Year with close friends, Chao decided to drive back to the main house on the ranch around 11:30 p.m., the Journal reported.

Only minutes after saying goodbye, Chao called one of her friends, saying that her vehicle, a Tesla Model X SUV, wound up in a pond after attempting to make a three-point turn.

According to the Journal's account, Chao told her friend that she had put her car in reverse instead of drive — a mistake she had made before — leading her to back over an embankment and into the pond.

A spokesperson for Tesla did not respond to a request for comment sent outside regular working hours.

Experts previously told Business Insider that drivers only have about a minute to get out of a sinking vehicle.

The Journal reported that some friends and a property ranch manager came outside shortly after the call. Due to the remote location and terrain of the ranch, some emergency responders had to get out of their vehicles and walk to the site of the incident, according to the report.

By the time the vehicle was towed out of the water, Chao was taken out of the vehicle and found unresponsive, The Journal reported.
 
Even then, no car has a factory contingency for full water submergence.

In such a scenario, you can't open the door against the pressure of the water you are in. You only have two options: use something to break a window, or, counter-intuitively, wait for the interior to fill up, and when you're almost out of space to breathe, take a deep one and then open the door, the pressure should be close enough to equalized that it opens.... I'd wager a lot of people who die in this scenario do so because they panic trying to get the door open, or become disoriented and ensnared in their seatbelt.
That's why we have a rescue tool in our car. Can cut belts, point on handle designed to smash out windows.
 
Or if you can, yank the headrest out and use the metal posts to break the window.
You're really going to have a difficult time swinging hard enough for those to work. You want to hit a corner where it's weakest and positioning will make it hard to do. The purpose made hammers have much finer/harder points that mostly make it a non-issue. A spring loaded center punch is probably the best tool. Doesn't require swinging space or any real strength to be effective.
 
Look she was leaving a Chinese New Years party ( drunk ) and drove into a pond. People do that shit all the time & die. The fact she was able to call someone is crazy. I would have been trying to get out of the car immediately.
I think her level of intoxication bears a little more examination. She must have been super sloshed to get lost so close to home, end up trying to pull a U-turn by a pond, and then phone a friend as her car sank.
 
I went down the "Underwater search and recovery" rat hole on youtube a few years back.

Sadly it is very common for someone to accidently drive their car in to the water, die and not be found for years.

Also it is a common means of suicide and a way to get rid of stolen cars.

I was surprised that consumer grade sonar made for finding fish has gotten advanced to the point it can be used to find submerged cars.

I don't know if there is a thread about it but one of the biggest names in the underwater search community got outed for diddling a relative or something of that nature.

Sorry for the thread drift.
 
I went down the "Underwater search and recovery" rat hole on youtube a few years back.

Sadly it is very common for someone to accidently drive their car in to the water, die and not be found for years.

Also it is a common means of suicide and a way to get rid of stolen cars.

I was surprised that consumer grade sonar made for finding fish has gotten advanced to the point it can be used to find submerged cars.

I don't know if there is a thread about it but one of the biggest names in the underwater search community got outed for diddling a relative or something of that nature.

Sorry for the thread drift.
The guy who had the YouTube channel Adventures with Purpose was the kiddy diddler. His whole team practically disowned him and created search teams of their own. I think one is called Chaos Divers or something like that. They are still doing missing persons without him.

What I learned a lot from those shows was unfamiliar roads, boat ramps, and big deep rivers, ponds, and lakes don't mix well with early dementia. They find a lot of 50s, 60s and 70s year old people.

Rarely do they find a body with the flesh still on it, often it's bones piled up in the front seat or on the rear seat when the force of the water pushes them into the back. And God help you if your car 'turtles' (flips onto it's roof) because that's even harder to get out of. You become disoriented and your weight holds you against the seat belt.
 
I mean considering you can pop the charging ports open with a flipper with little effort I wouldn't be shocked if you could make the thing go in reverse on somebody if you were extra clever, or just glowed in the dark.
Or were an Asian female driver who thought calling someone on the phone were a normal response to sinking to your inevitable drowning death in a submerged car.
What's a 3 point turn?
I hope to fuck someone as retarded as you does not have a driver's license because the very thought of people like you sharing the same road as me terrifies me.
 
Also betting it has no manual door locks or window controls, so she would have been unable to get out.
What whould she do if it had, push the door against the mass of water? Climb out of the window into the water? Her only chance was a gun.

I'm impressed that she was dumb enough to end up in a pond (whoever is to blame), and call a friend to complain, instead of getting out of the fucking car.
But the victim inside the car underwater calling a friend at a party is a new one. It is possibly the most current year thing ever. Did she TikTok it too?
The article is weird (behead journos). Watch this:
After a Friday evening celebrating Lunar New Year with close friends, Chao decided to drive back to the main house on the ranch around 11:30 p.m., the Journal reported.
The first Friday of the 2024 lunar year was February 9. The second was obviously February 16. February 11 2024 was a Sunday, which is her reported date of death and also the reported date of the accident wherever a date is reported.
Did she sink her car on Feb 9, get out, call her friend, then sink it again with herself inside 2 days later?

That said, it's fucking hilarious if she did really call a "friend" while drowning.
 
I went down the "Underwater search and recovery" rat hole on youtube a few years back.

Sadly it is very common for someone to accidently drive their car in to the water, die and not be found for years.

Also it is a common means of suicide and a way to get rid of stolen cars.

I was surprised that consumer grade sonar made for finding fish has gotten advanced to the point it can be used to find submerged cars.

I don't know if there is a thread about it but one of the biggest names in the underwater search community got outed for diddling a relative or something of that nature.

Sorry for the thread drift.
If I’m still in good health when I retire, I think it’d be cool to get a cadaver dog and just walk down random trails to see if we could find anyone that’s dead and missing.
 
Yes. I have the evidence to back it up.

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Everyone there is terrible. The guy pushing the women out of that spot probably took five minutes to do so and even then he couldn't manage to get it between the lines. They should all be stuffed in the same shitty Chinese SUV and hurled off the top of the parking garage.
 
I can't tell you how many times I have responded to cars accidentally put in gear and driven into lakes, duck ponds, rivers, creeks, swimming pools, cesspools, the long island sound and the Atlantic.
The prospect of diving in a sanitary lagoon is the most horrifying thing I have ever read.
That's why we have a rescue tool in our car. Can cut belts, point on handle designed to smash out windows.
Every vehicle needs a harbor freight automatic center punch. For the low, low price of $4 it keeps you from drowning and you can save a kid locked in a hot car. (do not break the window next to the kid)
 
Why the fuck do people defend this shit? What a godawful piece of trash.
This is exactly why I'd rather have something from last century, everything now has to be touch screen and voice activated. And "green" despite the fact that electric cars tend to catch fire more easily than gasoline ones, ironically.
Because it's F U T U R I S T I C
The future sucks.
 
Why the fuck do people defend this shit? What a godawful piece of trash.
This is exactly why I'd rather have something from last century, everything now has to be touch screen and voice activated. And "green" despite the fact that electric cars tend to catch fire more easily than gasoline ones, ironically.
Because it's F U T U R I S T I C
The future sucks.
 
The guy who had the YouTube channel Adventures with Purpose was the kiddy diddler. His whole team practically disowned him and created search teams of their own. I think one is called Chaos Divers or something like that. They are still doing missing persons without him.
He's still going with a new team, apparently. His latest video came out two weeks ago.
 
This happened in a neighborhood where I used to live.


Four members of a former Houston family who died when their van plunged into a retention pond near their home in central Indiana will be buried here on Wednesday.
Police in Carmel, Ind., said Batul Jeddy Abbas, 47, apparently lost control of the vehicle she was driving on the ice-covered road. She was able to call for help, but the van was submerged when rescue crews arrived. Abbas and her daughters, Shazreh Abbas, 18; Shaail Abbas, 14; and Azmeh Abbas, 8, were pulled from the icy water and taken in critical condition to a local hospital, where they later died.


I knew a local fireman who told me that both the mother, and the 18-year-old, made phone calls to 911.

He said it was baffling, because the firefighters had no trouble opening the doors when they got to the car. It was like they made calls on their phones, but they never even tried to open the doors. They all just stayed in the van and drown. They didn't even unclip their seatbelts.

The pond is only about 5 feet deep. They could've opened the doors and stepped out, and their heads would've been above the water.

I reckon they were just dumb dirkas, and they panicked, and just sat there and drown like nitwits.
 
This happened in a neighborhood where I used to live.


Four members of a former Houston family who died when their van plunged into a retention pond near their home in central Indiana will be buried here on Wednesday.
Police in Carmel, Ind., said Batul Jeddy Abbas, 47, apparently lost control of the vehicle she was driving on the ice-covered road. She was able to call for help, but the van was submerged when rescue crews arrived. Abbas and her daughters, Shazreh Abbas, 18; Shaail Abbas, 14; and Azmeh Abbas, 8, were pulled from the icy water and taken in critical condition to a local hospital, where they later died.


I knew a local fireman who told me that both the mother, and the 18-year-old, made phone calls to 911.

He said it was baffling, because the firefighters had no trouble opening the doors when they got to the car. It was like they made calls on their phones, but they never even tried to open the doors. They all just stayed in the van and drown. They didn't even unclip their seatbelts.

The pond is only about 5 feet deep. They could've opened the doors and stepped out, and their heads would've been above the water.

I reckon they were just dumb dirkas, and they panicked, and just sat there and drown like nitwits.
Desert people just don't understand water, I guess.
 
Have you seen the transmission controls on a Tesla? If it was any other car, I’d say she’s a dumbass, but Teslas literally use a swipe on the touchscreen to change gears.

That’s assuming the car didn’t just automatically decide that she wanted to go in reverse when she took her foot off the brake:
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A car is a MECHANICAL device, why in the everloving fuck are ANY of the controls outside of the radio and heat/AC fucking digital?! I'm not an engineer or certified in anyway, and yet I'm still insulted by such ass backwards design stupidity. They are big metal death machines that weigh a ton and can easily fucking kill people, it's COMMON FUCKING SENSE that all controls for the device need TO FUCKING BE MANUAL! Holy fuck am I MATI right now. That's not a "someone needs to be fired" blunder, that's a "the mother fucker who thought this up and the mother fucker that OK'd this should be launched into fucking orbit" blunder.
 
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