Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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1st off EJ didn't crowd fund his book. They were pre-ordered. Most creators don't have money to make a book so they crowdfund and depending on how much it makes they can afford to pay a colorist, letterer etc. That's why it takes so long to get a crowd funded book and why EJ put his out so fast. His book was finished already when he started taking orders.
EVS only needed to crowdfund his first book. With those proceeds he could've pre-produced everything else going forward and done exactly the same thing EJ is. We even suggested that but he told us we were crazy to think he should risk his own money instead of yours going forward. He spent it and yours on himself instead and now can't afford to print and ship the products everyone paid for. Now he's an IBS drama streamer.
 
EVS only needed to crowdfund his first book. With those proceeds he could've pre-produced everything else going forward and done exactly the same thing EJ is. We even suggested that but he told us we were crazy to think he should risk his own money instead of yours going forward. He spent it and yours on himself instead and now can't afford to print and ship the products everyone paid for. Now he's an IBS drama streamer.
Why would he use his own money when his campaigns make $1million? Plus the stretch goals are what gets more people to spend more money. It's an incentive for people to get invested in the campaign. EJ has monthly memberships that only get you a discount on merch and priority shipping. That makes no sense at all. EJ's biggest comic is launching today and there isn't even any mention of it on his site. He has no idea what he's doing.
 
1st off EJ didn't crowd fund his book. They were pre-ordered. Most creators don't have money to make a book so they crowdfund and depending on how much it makes they can afford to pay a colorist, letterer etc. That's why it takes so long to get a crowd funded book and why EJ put his out so fast. His book was finished already when he started taking orders.
Maybe they shouldn't be in the crowdfunding business if they can't even do half of the work in their own pocket. You should at least have the storyboard & a few pages done before expecting people to drop as much as 200 dollars for the variants, ash cans & other perks.

He has no idea what he's doing.
Yeah he should be fighting other creators and ignoring the flood of refund requests on projects that were abandoned for almost 2 years.
 
Team Masterson/Vito is objectively worse than Team July
July is chummy with the entire griftosphere, the sheer amount of degens he has on his side, which includes raging faggots, troons and furries makes this statement only true if you focus in on the inner most people.

As far as I can see, this is the larger CG group battling with EJ and the griftosphere. To pretend that you have measured the degeneracy on each site accurately is preposterous.
To be clear, I'm not going to go out of my way to defend July, but I don't think I'm under obligation to alog him either.
How could you interpret anything in my previous post as a call or endorsement to alog?
Aloging is always supremely gay and you shouldn't do it period.

Again the only rational position here is a third position.

For all the people with a chronic need to stand with a community, I will simplify my comment.

This fight between CG and the griftosphere is a good thing.
Because if either of them were friendly with each other you wouldn't get entertainment or truth fueled by hate out of any of them.
All you would get is a bunch of guys sucking each other off and telling people that the gutter trash they produce is actually gold.
 
Why would he use his own money when his campaigns make $1million?
His campaigns don't make $1 million any more do they? His flagship barely made half that last summer and if there's a next one you can halve it again. Because he DIDN'T use that money to make a real business, he blew it all on his ego instead and fucked everybody over.
 
Maybe they shouldn't be in the crowdfunding business if they can't even do half of the work in their own pocket. You should at least have the storyboard & a few pages done before expecting people to drop as much as 200 dollars for the variants, ash cans & other perks.


Yeah he should be fighting other creators and ignoring the flood of refund requests on projects that were abandoned for almost 2 years.
Without crowd funding they can't even make the book so I don't understand where you're coming from. Most small crowd funds don't have stretch goals because they barely make enough money as it is. Only the big established crowd funders do all the perks.
 
His campaigns don't make $1 million any more do they? His flagship didn't even make half that and if there's a next one you can halve it again. Because he DIDN'T use that money to make a real business, he blew it all on his ego instead.
It should be a wakeup call that cyberfrog 3 peaked at 605k and it's mostly people asking for refunds.

Without crowd funding they can't even make the book so I don't understand where you're coming from. Most small crowd funds don't have stretch goals because they barely make enough money as it is. Only the big established crowd funders do all the perks.
There's webtoon creators who make less than cg creators putting out weekly chapters. No excuses.
 
@FROG what is your favorite part about your friendship with ralph? Is it the wife beating, calling his infant daughter a bitch, driving drunk down the wrong way with his infant in the car, the xanny water, threatening to kill mexican escorts, or calling for the release of nudes to children like he did to clarebere? Or maybe it was ralph telling his mother to eat a dick and walk in a hot summer blaze to her dialysis treatment that you just love about him?

Maybe it was when ralph wished that gabe and his family were raped to death by hamas on oct 7?

Which of these mutual interests do you share with the ralphamale? Hope you sell a million frog toys buddy you're hanging out with some real winners these days.
 
His campaigns don't make $1 million any more do they? His flagship barely made half that last summer and if there's a next one you can halve it again. Because he DIDN'T use that money to make a real business, he blew it all on his ego instead and fucked everybody over.
I'm not defending anyone here but do you have proof he spent all the money? Indigogo doesn't give you your money until 15 days after the campaign ends.

It should be a wakeup call that cyberfrog 3 peaked at 605k and it's mostly people asking for refunds.


There's webtoon creators who make less than cg creators putting out weekly chapters. No excuses.
Apples and oranges
 
I'm not defending anyone here but do you have proof he spent all the money? Indigogo doesn't give you your money until 15 days after the campaign ends.
He already admitted the Snowman book that was completed last summer hasn't gone to print because the cost has risen too high. Thats a relatively small print run too so even if it meant less or no profit it wasn't worth the damage to his already radioactive reputation to just not deliver it and leave everyone hanging. You do the math on the other 7 or so late campaigns.

That's another reason to pre-produce product when you have the money to do so instead of waiting several years later and be blindsided by inflation especially after being warned that would happen.
 
That's another reason to pre-produce product when you have the money to do so instead of waiting several years later and be blindsided by inflation especially after being warned that would happen.
Especially coming from a industry veteran he should've on principle have a few pages done before expecting customers to pay. He's acting like star citizen.
 
Especially coming from a industry veteran he should've on principle have a few pages done before expecting customers to pay. He's acting like star citizen.
He had such a low opinion of his backers that he thought they would just tolerate it forever and keep backing his trinkets to pwn the SJW's. Then he got a wake-up call with the CF3 campaign failure and now he's an IBS drama streamer picking fights with more successful people on the internet for superchats.
 
I'm not defending anyone here but do you have proof he spent all the money? Indigogo doesn't give you your money until 15 days after the campaign ends.
You're not defending anyone here? Sounds like you're going hard in the paint for EVS.

You said: "I dislike EJ because he's a fraud and he treats people like shit. I watched him years ago and sussed him out pretty quickly. Say what you want about evs but I think his books are great and EJ's are terrible trash."

You don't want anyone to accuse EVS of fraud, but you're constantly attacking EJ. If we need proof EVS spent the money, where's your proof that EJ is a fraud and treats people like shit?
 
Thanks, but I don't need a breakdown. I've witnessed the whole thing play out. You forgot to mention EJ was acting like an unhinged asshole because everyone was licking his balls even though they didn't bother to even read his shitty book. Once people realized they could get attention they read the book, realized it was shit and EJ flew off the handle. He lied about the 3d assets and for some reason didn't fire Cliff. Has evs gone too far? Absolutely. But EJ deserves a good humbling
Do we live in alternate universes? None of that happened. Eric was beaming that his book was a massive success, thanked his fans a lot, and then reinvested his profits back into his company to improve it. Then Dick shows up, trashes the book without reading it (which is true, he got basic details wrong and quite literally admitted it), Eric responds as literally anyone would to that, and then it proceeds to snowball from there.

Also, learn how to multi-quote already dumbass. It's not difficult.
 
I vaguely remember a time where Ethan (or maybe it was YBZ) was going to complete campaigns before starting new ones, just so that he could get them out on time, because, you know, he's usually late.

July got humbled, I guess, because that damn nigger dared to fight back against disingenuous actors and go against the Sunbeam. But all the shit that's getting thrown at Ej isn't being afforded to EVS and his cronies, so I gotta wonder, again, why there's so much laser focus on a guy who happens to be a different skin color... Hmmm
 
Eric dropped Yaira and it's already almost at half a million
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Why would he use his own money when his campaigns make $1million? Plus the stretch goals are what gets more people to spend more money. It's an incentive for people to get invested in the campaign. EJ has monthly memberships that only get you a discount on merch and priority shipping. That makes no sense at all. EJ's biggest comic is launching today and there isn't even any mention of it on his site. He has no idea what he's doing.
Maybe the dumbass should reinvest into his own books since his campaigns don't make $1 million anymore because he spends all day on youtube and twitter instead of fucking finishing his books. There's nothing stopping him from having stretch goals AND completed books besides his own laziness. The only ones still investing are his simps because the others got tired of waiting for their books. Crowdfunding isn't an excuse to be late. I've backed books and gotten them on time. Fatboy is just lazy.
 
That's another reason to pre-produce product when you have the money to do so instead of waiting several years later and be blindsided by inflation especially after being warned that would happen.

He doesn't even have to have them printed. He can easily finish it and then have them printed after 3 months or so after seeing how many people will want it. Maybe print some extras issues to hit a tier on getting printing costs cheaper and to have something on hand for conventions or to sell on eBay.

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Sounds like the site queue had some issues at the start. But not bad after 90 minutes.
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Apparently, the Soska's did a little Yaira intro/movie. One of the benchmarks is a live action movie too. And Graham Nolan did one of the covers. Will be interesting to see if EVS reacts to that.


I'm not defending anyone here but do you have proof he spent all the money? Indigogo doesn't give you your money until 15 days after the campaign ends.

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The campaign technically ended back in August, but it's still open so people can buy from it. Does he get his $500,000 then or will it be held until it finally gets fulfilled in 2026? But yes. There is no way to know if he spent it all without looking at his books. But personally, I think he blew his wad on the toys.
 
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EVS could have got off his cowardly chapped ass and actually laid the foundation of a comic publishing company to compete with the mainstream companies. He had the credibility (which is now at a all time low), he probably had some celebrity left to promote a CG publishing company.
He rather not stick his non existent neck out, bitch for hours on stream, and engorge himself on vanity and lard. No wonder EVS defended George R. R. Martin because he took the insults to his late books personally.
 
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