Warhammer 40k

[Second Missing Primarch]

I read “The Path of Heaven” last night, I find it really funny that the White Scars and the Khan are pretty much the 2003 Clone Wars cartoon’s depiction of Clone Troopers and Obi-Wan now. Like reading Warhawk they do that “Mount up” scene almost 1:1.

But regardless the Khan is awesome, he’s one of the few likeable loyalist Primarchs and his rivalry with Morty is hilarious, it’s a Mongolian gigachad versus a hunched, racist farm boy who drinks rancid moonshine.

Book was good, had some neat ties to the larger world and conflict but was mostly self-contained. Eidolon calling Horus a “warp-bloated abortion” was inexorably based and he steals the spotlight, at one point giving Mortarion a man to man talk about the warp and it’s consequences, “the bill comes due” sorta thing.

Wraight also deserves props for repairing the characterization of Mortarion from his past contradictory appearances. This is also the book where Horus gives his “My brothers are witless idiots, you’re my only friend Morty” monologue.

Chris Wraight is one of my favorite BL authors at this point. I can't think of a single book of his that I don't like. Scars and Path of Heaven were both great and Warhawk is one of the best of the Siege of Terra books. Lords of Silence and the Watchers of the Throne series are also really good.

 

[I Know 孤独のせい]

I remember reading "Flesh and Iron" a couple of years ago and enjoying it. It's basically something like "Apocalypse Now"just set in 40K.

 

[ForTheHoard]

So I was looking for my next book, and I found this bullshit on amazon.
Why the fuck does a paperback cost a thousand fucking dollars!?!
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The other paperbacks by this author are also outrageous at 80 and 100 dollars, but wtf.
He's the guy behind the new Dark Coil series in the Warhammer Horror line, which I have been interested in getting into, but now maybe not.

It would be cheaper to pirate the .pdf, take it to a local printer, and have it bound yourself.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

Finished 'Pilgrimage of Fire'. Aside from giving some solid math on how many Sisters an Adeptus is worth (5 when the Sisters are defending their home turf so realistically 15 in open combat), it also gave a piece of lore so insane I had to put the book down and think about it. The Sisters Repentia are not solely let out of their cells to throw themselves suicidally at the nearest demon. They have to do dog and pony show parades for the public too. They also have what I can only describe as Dress Blue Rags. Like a special velvet hood with their sins stitched in gold thread. Who's maintaining those? When they show up for uniform inspection two hours prior, do they have to ensure their rags are properly shabby? How does that work?

And if that's not enough, the Penitent Engines also have to march. The Penitent Engines get in formation and left-right-a-layoo their miserable asses down the street. Do the implants driven directly through their eyes force them to feel guilt that can only be abated by keeping in step? Do they get let out into the yard to drill? Is there a manual of arms for a buzzsaw arm?

 

[Humble Architect]

Finished 'Pilgrimage of Fire'. Aside from giving some solid math on how many Sisters an Adeptus is worth (5 when the Sisters are defending their home turf so realistically 15 in open combat), it also gave a piece of lore so insane I had to put the book down and think about it. The Sisters Repentia are not solely let out of their cells to throw themselves suicidally at the nearest demon. They have to do dog and pony show parades for the public too. They also have what I can only describe as Dress Blue Rags. Like a special velvet hood with their sins stitched in gold thread. Who's maintaining those? When they show up for uniform inspection two hours prior, do they have to ensure their rags are properly shabby? How does that work?

And if that's not enough, the Penitent Engines also have to march. The Penitent Engines get in formation and left-right-a-layoo their miserable asses down the street. Do the implants driven directly through their eyes force them to feel guilt that can only be abated by keeping in step? Do they get let out into the yard to drill? Is there a manual of arms for a buzzsaw arm?

That shit is why I hate the modern 40k setting, give me the 31st millennium’s brother war and Primarch drama over that shit any day.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

That shit is why I hate the modern 40k setting, give me the 31st millennium’s brother war and Primarch drama over that shit any day.

Disagree. I know I called it insane and nit picked it, but give me more of that shit. Imagine being a Repentia, denied a name, denied humanity, confined to a bare cell. The only thing you can possibly do to redeem yourself is die fighting the Emperors foes. A life of pure misery. And then the fuckin Sister Superior or who ever kicks your door open and tells you the pilgrims have arrived to your shrine world, and you are going to spend four days in rehearsals and practicing drill. Any free time after that is going to be caring for your uniform. Two days before you have to draw your Eviscerator from the armory at 05 and clean it to a shine. Day of you show up 2 hours early in your dress rags for a series of inspections. Will the Emperor cast his gaze kindly on your soul if 1st Sgt finds oil on your weapon? You don't know. You only know you have to march in step with out water for 10 hours to impress officers even though you took the oath volunateraly to die. That's more grim dark than any shit Horus pulled.

 

[vern]

Does anyone have any good Fantasy or AoS books they'd recommend?
The gotrek and felix books are the only ones I've touched so far, I might look at the Thanquol and Ulrika books to see what exactly they where doing in the 10 year timeskip unless anyone has some better recommendations.

 

[augment]

So I was looking for my next book, and I found this bullshit on amazon.
Why the fuck does a paperback cost a thousand fucking dollars!?!
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The other paperbacks by this author are also outrageous at 80 and 100 dollars, but wtf.
He's the guy behind the new Dark Coil series in the Warhammer Horror line, which I have been interested in getting into, but now maybe not.

Amazon does this all the time when a book edition goes out of print. It has something to do with how the listing tables work, but the guy who explained this to me didn't do a good enough job and I can't seem to follow. I've largely given up on amazon as a whole and have taken to scouring local used bookshops for stuff I've missed.

About 1d6chan, it's disappointing that there's going to be a schism from now on between cockguzzling discord groomers and 2d4chan but I don't see any other way around it. At least the stuff they deleted was that loli crap that just baffles me (as to why the hell is there loli in a warhammer wiki?)

 

[NerdShamer]

(as to why the hell is there loli in a warhammer wiki?)

/d/ took the Slannessh lore literally.

 

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About 1d6chan, it's disappointing that there's going to be a schism from now on between cockguzzling discord groomers and 2d4chan but I don't see any other way around it. At least the stuff they deleted was that loli crap that just baffles me (as to why the hell is there loli in a warhammer wiki?)

For the same reason this "GamerGate 2" shit's discord had an anime chat that was filled with them. You get a group of gamers -- vidya, tabletop, whatever -- together and you're gonna pull in some degenerates at the same time. It's just a fact of the modern internet + porn addiction.

 

[ChampFantana]

Does anyone have any good Fantasy or AoS books they'd recommend?
The gotrek and felix books are the only ones I've touched so far, I might look at the Thanquol and Ulrika books to see what exactly they where doing in the 10 year timeskip unless anyone has some better recommendations.

Never read any of the Age of Smegmar, but I can recommend some great WH Fantasy novels. Riders of the Dead by Abnett is excellent, and Guardians of the Forest by Graham McNeill is great. The Witch Hunter Trilogy by CL Werner is also very good.

 

[p1138]

Chris Wraight is one of my favorite BL authors at this point. I can't think of a single book of his that I don't like. Scars and Path of Heaven were both great and Warhawk is one of the best of the Siege of Terra books. Lords of Silence and the Watchers of the Throne series are also really good.

Chris Wraight is good when he's allowed to do what he wants. His white scars books are great The vaults of terra books range from ok to great. Valdor was actually pretty good as he does far more than simply write a book about Valdor.

The problem is when you get to a book like Sea of Souls. I don't blame Wraight for it being bad, I blame it for being stuck writing some mandated bullshit to shoehorn into a boring attempt at an ongoing narrative that is kind of a dumpster fire. The book is basically The Shining, but in space and that's fine as a concept but the whole damn thing just seems phoned in. Hopefully with this dawn of fire shit ending soon, they let him go back to writing what he's actually interested in. It's just unfortunate when a decent writer gets stuck on a project they don't seem to give a shit about.

Which weirdly enough reminds me of Matt Ward. The shit that man has received for the ultramarinesspace marines codex in 5th edition is well deserved but when you look at the lore he came up with for the necrons clearly the guy has some braincells to rub together. I think he simply got the short end of the stick with a corporate mandate from GW, did his job, and then wound up being the scapegoat for it.

 

[MustIBeLoggedInToDoThat?]

I'm a shit painter
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Don't be so hard on yourself. I know professional painting standards have increased in the last 40 years but even your close up looks good. It's a lot easier to criticize when you know how you wanted ot to look.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

If AOS 4th Edition ditches the magic system in favor of 10th Edition 40k's repulsive take on psychic powers, it will be a tragedy.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Since people are posting book reports, I shall too

I read Leviathan

It was shit, like sceptic tank-level shit. In all seriousness the characters were forgettable and it could have been way darker but it was incredibly safe.

I read Son of the Forest after and so far it's pretty neat.

 

[Pedophobe]

Astartes are the literal Work of the Emperor, calling them mere mutants could be seen as Heresy.

Yes but it's not unheard of, at least quietly, within the ranks of the Inquisition.

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

Which weirdly enough reminds me of Matt Ward. The shit that man has received for the ultramarinesspace marines codex in 5th edition is well deserved but when you look at the lore he came up with for the necrons clearly the guy has some braincells to rub together. I think he simply got the short end of the stick with a corporate mandate from GW, did his job, and then wound up being the scapegoat for it.

I think Ward is one of the most uneven writers GW ever had. He had some good moments, like with the Necron revamp, his writing for the elves in WFB, and that tweet where he roasted PETA, but then he also gave us 5th edition Ultramarines, Kaldor Draigo, the Khornate Knights incident, and that WFB Daemons of Chaos book that was so overpowered it broke the game and they had to release a new edition to fix it.

Obviously we can't know how much of that was him and how much was GW mandating that the new codex needed to be good to sell units, but it seems to me like Ward needed someone around to slap him when he started getting too enthusiastic about whatever he was writing and that never happened, so he just let his fanboyishness run away with him.

 

[ZMOT]

I'm a shit painter but I tried really hard on some free handed boils on a WE chaos spawn proxy.
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I missed a lot of support marks. It's really hard to tell when they're white on white.

it's fine. I mostly slap on speedpaints and call it a day. no one is pulling out a magnifying glass to look at my shit anyway. plus I'm too lazy for that.

He had some good moments, like with the Necron revamp

 

[p1138]

I think Ward is one of the most uneven writers GW ever had. He had some good moments, like with the Necron revamp, his writing for the elves in WFB, and that tweet where he roasted PETA, but then he also gave us 5th edition Ultramarines, Kaldor Draigo, the Khornate Knights incident, and that WFB Daemons of Chaos book that was so overpowered it broke the game and they had to release a new edition to fix it.

Obviously we can't know how much of that was him and how much was GW mandating that the new codex needed to be good to sell units, but it seems to me like Ward needed someone around to slap him when he started getting too enthusiastic about whatever he was writing and that never happened, so he just let his fanboyishness run away with him.

Oh I know a lot of the other stuff he came up with was a total shit show. I just mean with regards to specifically the Ultramarines stuff hated by so many(and rightfully so) that it seems entirely likely that was a mandate from GW. There's absurd lore, and then there's writing crap like how every other chapter aspires to be them.

 

[gagabobo1997]

How do I get into warhammer as a complete newbie? I think the figures are cool but I imagine there's a bunch of games I would need to play if I wanted to understand all the lore right?