Science Children to no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England confirms

Children to no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England confirms​

The decision follows a review after a sharp rise in referrals were recorded at the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) run by the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, which is closing at the end of March.
Tuesday 12 March 2024 17:14, UK

Children will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.
Puberty blockers, which pause the physical changes of puberty such as breast development or facial hair, will now only be available to children as part of clinical research trials.

The government said it welcomed the "landmark decision", adding it would help ensure care is based on evidence and is in the "best interests of the child".
It follows a public consultation on the issue and an interim policy, and comes after NHS England commissioned an independent review of gender identity services for children under 18 in 2020.
The review followed a sharp rise in referrals to the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) - a specialised service for young people who experience difficulties in development of their gender identity - run by the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, which is closing at the end of March.
In 2021-22, there were over 5,000 referrals to GIDS, compared to just under 250 a decade earlier.
The clinic has faced repeated scrutiny.


Gender identity clinic to close
Dr Hilary Cass, who led the review, published an interim report in February 2022 saying there was a need to move away from one unit and recommended regional options be available to better support children.
She also said there was a lack of long-term evidence on what happens to young people prescribed blockers - adding that GIDS had not gathered routine and consistent data meaning it was "not possible to accurately track the outcomes and pathways that children and young people take through the service".

After Tavistock closes, two new NHS services will open in early April, situated in Great Ormond Street Hospital, London, and Alder Hey Children's Hospital in Liverpool.
The NHS said children attending these clinics will be supported by experts in neurodiversity, paediatrics and mental health, "resulting in a holistic approach to care".
Around 5,000 children and young people are currently on the waiting list for referral into the new clinics, as 250 patients are expected to be transferred to them when they are open.
Currently there are fewer than 100 children on puberty blockers, who will continue their treatment at Leeds and University College London Hospital.

Health Minister, Maria Caulfield, said: "We have always been clear that children's safety and wellbeing is paramount, so we welcome this landmark decision by the NHS.
"Ending the routine prescription of puberty blockers will help ensure that care is based on evidence, expert clinical opinion and is in the best interests of the child."
The consultation on the future of services received more than 4,000 responses, comprised of members of the public, 22% from patients, 21% from parents, 10% from trans adults and 5% from clinicians.
John Stewart, national director of specialised commissioning at NHS England, said the responses were "polarised" in line with the debate around puberty blockers.
Mr Stewart said: "Many people said the policy didn't go far enough in terms of still allowing potential access (to puberty blockers) through research, and others saying clearly they disagreed fundamentally and that these should be routinely available to everyone who believes they need it."
Former prime minister Liz Truss "welcomed" NHS England's decision ahead of her Health and Equality Acts (Amendment) Bill which is up for its second reading on Friday.
The bill includes a ban on the prescription of body-altering hormones to children questioning their sex, both privately and on the NHS.
The most commonly used puberty blockers suppress the production of hormones, including testosterone and oestrogen.
NHS England hopes to have a study into their use by December - with eligibility criteria yet to be decided.

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[Something Awful]

Children will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers at gender identity clinics, NHS England has confirmed.

Cool, now close all "gender identity clinics" (what the fuck?), and sentence all the charlatans involved to a couple of decades of hard labour.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I predict a sudden massive increase in clinical trials. This is gonna turn out to be worthless isn't it?

It's next to impossible to run clinical trials with children in this country. I don't think they'll be able to use that as a loophole.

 

[Al from Dadeville]

I believe it means that by December NHS England will have a completed study that they can use to inform future decisions. I believe that the studies will have similar outcomes to the ones taken in Denmark, which highlighted many problems with previous studies into providing kids with puberty blockers, and caused Danish clinics to stop providing drugs in most cases.

I assume the preliminary results on the NHS study are pretty fucking horrifying for them to stop prescribing blockers already

 

[Chongqing]

A broken clock is right twice a day, after all.

In the UK it's only half that because they use a 24 hour clock.

 

[Anomalous Coward]

Nhs realising that they're on the hook for paying for all the psychotherapy, ssris, cancer and bone treatments that will be necessary as an indirect result of gender therapy

 

[Otterly]

saying there was a need to move away from one unit and recommended regional options be available to better support children.

One door closes…

After Tavistock closes, two new NHS services will open in early April, situated in Great Ormond Street Hospital, London, and Alder Hey Children's Hospital in Liverpool.

And another two open. I’d be cautious about celebrating this as a victory

Currently there are fewer than 100 children on puberty blockers, who will continue their treatment at Leeds and University College London Hospital.

That’s a hundred too many. It should be zero

Hopefully kids with Precocious Puberty can still get them. No one should have to go through puberty before they're even old enough to start kindergarten.

No they shouldn’t. Having said that, lupron is a terrible drug and imo it should be totally removed from use. As @Diana Moon Glampers says, they’ve caused terrible problems with kids who have taken them even for what they’re actually approved for. Lupron is a scandalous tale of a drug in search of a condition. This is a good intro to just how bad it is https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/women-fear-drug-they-used-to-halt-puberty-led-to-health-problems
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It causes twenty year olds to have crumbling bones, destroys joints, seems to cause brain damage and gives lifelong pain and disability. The risks outweigh the benefits and we need better treatment pathways for PP. however none of these kids are on it for that, they’re on puberty blockers like lupron or triptorelin becasue the adults around them are chemically and surgically neutering and mutilating them
The FDa has tens of thousands of adverse event reports for this drug. If i had a child undergoing precocious puberty I would not consent to them taking this or any similar medication.
Amd it’s always bloody Leeds isn’t it? I think the devil has a regional office there

 

[Birdie0]

Troons wept at the sight of this headline. The NHS has taken away one of their biggest tools to indoctrinate children into troonery.

 

[Dedans]

I assume the preliminary results on the NHS study are pretty fucking horrifying for them to stop prescribing blockers already

I'd assume its a mix of that; the controversy surrounding Tavistock; following in the footsteps of our Continental brethren; and, the massive increase in kids asking for life-altering drugs.

 

[Android raptor]

causes twenty year olds to have crumbling bones, destroys joints, seems to cause brain damage and gives lifelong pain and disability. The risks outweigh the benefits and we need better treatment pathways for PP. however none of these kids are on it for that, they’re on puberty blockers like lupron or triptorelin becasue the adults around them are chemically and surgically neutering and mutilating them
The FDa has tens of thousands of adverse event reports for this drug. If i had a child undergoing precocious puberty I would not consent to them taking this or any similar medication.
Amd it’s always bloody Leeds isn’t it? I think the devil has a regional office there

And PP causes an increased risk of everything from breast cancer to depression

The earliest antipsychotics also had some pretty nasty side effects (like permanent organ damage), doesn't mean we should've stopped developed and prescribing those drugs to people with schizophrenia, bipolar, etc

 

[Pilgrim of Grace]

She also said there was a lack of long-term evidence on what happens to young people prescribed blockers

Strange. I thought the science on this was settled?

And going through puberty as a toddler can have some horrific consequences.

You're overlooking the root cause of her suffering, which is an uncharacteristically-negligent action on your part.

She didn't get pregnant spontaneously without "input". And for the little information that remains on her later life, it appears she had a fairly normal life divorced from media.

Sounds like we need to develop a newer generation of puberty blockers with fewer potential side effects, not force kids to go through puberty in preschool.

This I agree with, however you're talking about halting a critical physiological metamorphosis that naturally occurs in the human body. Mother nature is a forgiving mistress but she does not operate on neither mine nor your schedule.

 

[Otterly]

They do not want scrutiny of the Tavistock. A lot of very unsavoury stuff has and does go on there.

And PP causes an increased risk of everything from breast cancer to depression

None of these kids have precocious puberty. Lupron and all similar drugs should be banned outright.

 

[derpherp2]

None of these kids have precocious puberty. Lupron and all similar drugs should be banned outright.

I like the part where the literal spedo is lecturing you.
With...
"statnews"
Probably didn't even read it. Again.
She forget what pubmed is again or something?

 

[User names must be unique]

psychotherapy

Genuinely barely exists in the UK outside of inpatient treatment facilities, best you'll get is some Better Help tier bullshit.

 

[derpherp2]

Genuinely barely exists in the UK outside of inpatient treatment facilities, best you'll get is some Better Help tier bullshit.

Psychotherapy is a meme anyways. Literally every issue in psychology as a field stems from freud's incest-laden faggotry.

 

[Garamok]

Hopefully kids with Precocious Puberty can still get them. No one should have to go through puberty before they're even old enough to start kindergarten.

you seem a bit extreme... not every child needs puberty blockers.

However, Black, Hispanic, and Native American children might naturally reach puberty earlier.

Treatment for precocious puberty depends on the cause. However, when no cause can be found, treatment may not be needed, depending on the child's age and how fast puberty is moving. Watching the child for several months might be an option.

I think society should be more careful with pharmaceuticals. Especially when it comes to children.

 

[Android raptor]

You're overlooking the root cause of her suffering, which is an uncharacteristically-negligent action on your part.

She didn't get pregnant spontaneously without "input".

Of course not, but increased risk of sexual abuse is one of the many problems associated with precocious and early puberty in girls. I think this also plays a huge role in why it's also correlated with an increased risk of mental illnesses and substance abuse.

I went through puberty young enough, I can't imagine going through that shit as a toddler. Unless we get to a point where society stops doing such horrific shit to girls when they start puberty, I think it's dangerous to stop giving those kids puberty blockers entirely (and even in a perfect society they're still at higher risk of shit like breast cancer, stroke, PCOS, and other health problems).

We didn't stop giving schizophrenics antipsychotics just because the first generation of them had nasty side effects.

 

[Muppetstudios]

In 20 years you will not find a single person who supported transing kids, like Nazi Party supporters in 1950s Germany

 

[Garamok]

And going through puberty as a toddler can have horrific consequences.

Sounds like we need to develop a newer generation of puberty blockers with fewer side effect, not force kids with Precocious Puberty to go through puberty before they're even old enough to start kindergarten.

It seems like you are obsessing over this. Because boys can also get precocious puberty. Here's a case of a man who inherited precocious puberty from his father, who inherited from his father, who inherited it from his father.... they tracked it down during history. I think your actual problem is when degenerates take advantage of girls. It's not the early puberty itself.

 

[Android raptor]

It seems like you are obsessing over this. Because boys can also get precocious puberty. Here's a case of a man who inherited precocious puberty from his father, who inherited from his father, who inherited it from his father.... they tracked it down during history. I think your actual problem is when degenerates take advantage of girls. It's not the early puberty itself.

They can but girls outnumber boys 10/1 with Precocious Puberty cases. There's also less research on the effects on boys, though some of the articles I read said they probably are at similarly increased risk of shit like depression, substance abuse, anxiety disorders, etc.

Early puberty itself doesn't cause pedos to abuse girls since that's ultimately the fault of the pedo, but it's much easier said than done to elimate all inappropriate behavior towards pubescent girls (especially when so many people refuse to believe the scope of the problem).

 

[derpherp2]

Oh look she's mad literal scientists are calling her a retard.
Guess that vaunted "personal experience" not working well?

Speaking of how's trying to prove you're not the prime example of behavior models pertaining to second-gen pedos?

I'm all for people doing whatever with fiction as long as it doesn't hurt real people, but some subject matter is stuff lots of people find gross or upsetting and needs a content warning. Sexualization of child characters is one of them.

Which is fucked up, because free speech ends where the safety of real children begins.

Not very well I see.