Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Pedophobe]

If cert gets granted, lawyers will come out of the fucking walls and throw themselves at Greer's feet for the chance to go argue in front of SCOTUS.

Pity they won't be able to reach him by mail.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Deadbeat parents in CPS cases will do similar stall tactics. Hopefully it does not work for him.

 

[Kosher Salt]

that's like handing in an eviction notice as proof of address

this is some of the most phenomenally stupid shit i've seen in my life

I don't really see anything wrong with it. There's no reason why he should've paid before the due date, and he's presumably going to renew it.

This is why you use the ZIP+4.

1155 E TWAIN AVE # 108420
LAS VEGAS NV 89169-4208

That's asking a lot of our modern postal service, friend.

The USPS might not do address fuckery with certified mail. Deliver as said or return.

Honestly, the USPS might not even accept it for delivery, if their computer said the address was invalid and wasn't able to print a postage label for it. But if that happened, I'd like to have just seen Harden say that, rather than some vague reference to public records.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Deadbeat parents in CPS cases will do similar stall tactics. Hopefully it does not work for him.

That's expected. But in this case HE IS THE PLAINTIFF! He is the Moving Party. Courts tend to look upon this sort of shit as wasting the courts time. Uncooperative defendants playing hard to get is normal. Uncooperative Plaintiffs is something almost uniquely Russ.

 

[Thomas Talus]

That's expected. But in this case HE IS THE PLAINTIFF! He is the Moving Party. Courts tend to look upon this sort of shit as wasting the courts time. Uncooperative defendants playing hard to get is normal. Uncooperative Plaintiffs is something almost uniquely Russ.

If you want to see an uncooperative plaintiff, wait until discovery starts.

 

[mindlessobserver]

If you want to see an uncooperative plaintiff, wait until discovery starts.

Which is bizarre world since if a plai tiff does not want to cooperate they could just drop the lawsuit.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

If you want to see an uncooperative plaintiff, wait until discovery starts.

Oh god I hadn't even thought about that.
"Your honor I need this case to be put on hold for the next 3 years while I go through the evidence Mr. Moon and kiwi farms (a website) has given me. Then I will respond with what Mr. Moon has requested. I am too busy answering emails, legalizing sex work in bumfuck Nevada and opening a brothel there while waiting for my music career to take off."
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[AnOminous]

I don't really see anything wrong with it. There's no reason why he should've paid before the due date, and he's presumably going to renew it.



Honestly, the USPS might not even accept it for delivery, if their computer said the address was invalid and wasn't able to print a postage label for it. But if that happened, I'd like to have just seen Harden say that, rather than some vague reference to public records.

They check the ZIP+4. This particular building has about a dozen or so, so it doesn't just tell you this exact building, but what part of its address block.

But if that happened, I'd like to have just seen Harden say that, rather than some vague reference to public records.

Public records are subject to judicial notice without having to go through affidavits and all kinds of evidentiary bullshit.

 

[ScooterL]

If you want to see an uncooperative plaintiff, wait until discovery starts.

I'm looking forward to Russell trying to explain what economic loss he can prove he's suffered.

 

[trash cat]

Russell uses a different, but really-existing, address on the website for his fantasy PAC:



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He knows the right address. He's fucking around because he's retarded.

Nice find.



Russell had no trouble getting his PAC address correct on his shit Squarespace site.

He clearly changed East Twain Ave (real) to South Twain Ave (fictitious) in his federal court filings.

I think Russell Greer is a piece of shit liar playing games with the court, hoping to buy himself time because he knows , on some level, that he is way out of his depth.

But he's such a fuckup, he tripped over his own lies and face-planted.

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

Which is bizarre world since if a plai tiff does not want to cooperate they could just drop the lawsuit.

This right here is the crux of the retardation for me and what made Russ a solid lolcow. He's not LOTY material unless he does something profoundly stupid, like if this goes to SCOTUS he manages to fuck it up instead of the facts or his free lawyer, but he's still good.

He's the one making claims and he even got a kick back with some retarded 10th circuit judge using his "KF bad so they must be wrong" argument as truth, and now that there's resistance with good arguments he's stalling. It's like those cartoons where the character gets caught out as a fraud and they stand there before dropping everything and making a beeline to the horizon, except shitlips is still standing there, still waiting, hoping something magically changes.

 

[Thomas Talus]

I'm looking forward to Russell trying to explain what economic loss he can prove he's suffered.

Statutory damages can normally run between $750-$30,000. If he can show willfulness as an added burden of proof, that can be raised to $150,000. I see that Russ registered or applied for registration for the works, although I don't know whether he did so timely and I'm not going digging to find out, so he could in principle go for statutory rather than actual. Now he might also have, through his conduct, inadvertently changed the court's thinking on what constitutes just compensation when it comes to that original range...

 

[Pee Cola]

Even though Russhole hasn't given Hardin the (presumably) correct address as per ASN, is there anything stopping Hardin from using the ASN address for service? Other than Russhole physically marking the envelope "return to sender", of course.

 

[Warm Lasagna]

Even though Russhole hasn't given Hardin the (presumably) correct address as per ASN, is there anything stopping Hardin from using the ASN address for service? Other than Russhole physically marking the envelope "return to sender", of course.

Why miss an opportunity to label Russ a fuckup? Other than that, I imagine sending court documents to an address that was not provided to the court could be construed as “in bad faith” or some shit. Better not to make assumptions at this stage.

 

[Moths]

The funniest timeline where Russ is held in contempt or sanctioned for refusing to share his fucking mailing address.

Its ok Russel you can share your mailing address with us buddy.

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

The upside to all of this is, when Russ makes prostitution legal and accepted all over the world, Null can finally ask to use his mouth and any other hole to cover his attorney's fees.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Statutory damages can normally run between $750-$30,000. If he can show willfulness as an added burden of proof, that can be raised to $150,000. I see that Russ registered or applied for registration for the works, although I don't know whether he did so timely and I'm not going digging to find out, so he could in principle go for statutory rather than actual. Now he might also have, through his conduct, inadvertently changed the court's thinking on what constitutes just compensation when it comes to that original range...

going off my memory, he did register them before they were taken down.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

I'm looking forward to Russell trying to explain what economic loss he can prove he's suffered.

I guess he'll have to show sales figures from his book at discovery.

 

[Jotch]

I think the most realistic scenario is that he fucked up and actually forgot which of the four cardinal directions the address was.

 

[Betonhaus]

I think the most realistic scenario is that he fucked up and actually forgot which of the four cardinal directions the address was.

Once, maybe. But then he doubled down