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I've been looking into REITs lately and been wondering how safe they might be. Some of the nicer ones seem stable enough and make their monthly divident payments on time (which I like), but being tied to real estate, even non-commercial real estate has me fearing another 2008 and having the who damn thing be dissolved. Anyone have any insight?
 
I've been looking into REITs lately and been wondering how safe they might be. Some of the nicer ones seem stable enough and make their monthly divident payments on time (which I like), but being tied to real estate, even non-commercial real estate has me fearing another 2008 and having the who damn thing be dissolved. Anyone have any insight?
You can't easily generalize given that what you can do with real estate is extremely varied, just like you can't easily generalize stocks and bonds. A data center REIT like Digital Reality behaves much more like a tech stock, office and residential REITs are generally heavily exposed to shifts in the real estate market, and some are much more esoteric.
 
Want a tip? I'll give you one...you know about the layoffs globally so I won't talk about that - but here at home...

I contacted a supplier that I use often enough and I was used to begging for my products to be produced in under 10 weeks. however this time he told me they were totally open, could produce what I wanted and ship it in a week.

Now let me tell you (given that I won't reveal the industry), but this should alarm the shit out of everyone because he and I are in a bellwether industry. If he has open books, it means late 2024 and early 2025 are not looking good.

But it wasn't isolated either because I went to another place where I get products and they too were able to produce and provide the order in half the usual time.
 
Hearing that I can buy product/services here&now instead of waiting on 3 month leadtimes makes me much more willing to spend this cash I've been hoarding. This post-covid, buy now, deliver next year at best business attitude has soured me to thoughts of construction or production.
 
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Hearing that I can buy product/services here&now instead of waiting on 3 month leadtimes makes me much more willing to spend this cash I've been hoarding. This post-covid, buy now, deliver next year at best business attitude has soured me to thoughts of construction or production.
I heard something the other day that construction in general is getting pretty fucky. Lots of apartment buildings and multi-family housing projects that were started during COVID are supposed to be "delivered" this year.
 
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Has anyone of you people diversified your investments and managed to create a steady stream of passive income? I have some money set aside and I'm wondering if I need to even try. I'm also saving for my own place so I'm not sure how much I can afford to lose.
There's a huge investment company in my city, should I just pick up the phone or go there and ask to speak to somebody?

I go out I see some 25yo guys driving $100 000 cars, in my country's subreddit some 26yo fag posted how he made 75k in the last 5 months.
Is it crypto? What is it? How do these people have so much money? I'm an experienced fullstack developer making 3 times the national average and I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a car for half that price and to make $75k for 5months ill need to become a drug mule or something. Meanwhile some people younger than me appear to be making twice the USA national average and I honestly have no idea how that happens.

How did you become rich?
 
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I go out I see some 25yo guys driving $100 000 cars, in my country's subreddit some 26yo fag posted how he made 75k in the last 5 months.
Either they are leasing them to project the image of wealth, or you live in an extremely affluent area. Maybe you should stop paying attention to the conspicuous consumption of others.

Is it crypto? What is it? How do these people have so much money? I'm an experienced fullstack developer making 3 times the national average and I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a car for half that price and to make $75k for 5months ill need to become a drug mule or something. Meanwhile some people younger than me appear to be making twice the USA national average and I honestly have no idea how that happens.

How did you become rich?
In the absence of actual skill or experience, risk and survivorship bias.
 
I heard something the other day that construction in general is getting pretty fucky. Lots of apartment buildings and multi-family housing projects that were started during COVID are supposed to be "delivered" this year.
Its all apart of the CRE bubble, the mainstream media and the finance grifters on youtube all shit on china for there cities with no one living in them, same shit is going on here. I live in an area with multi familly units that shot up on mass starting in 2018, none of these new buildings have occupancy, I like to walk and ask questions. Its a giant bubble. People need places to live, but unless they are getting HUD Section 8 hand outs, or illegal immigrants no onbe is buying, either because they can't afford it, or they are not that stupid.
 
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Please elaborate. I have 0 skill in finance. I'm yet another code monkey.
Fundamentally, if you lack any sort of knowledge or strategy edge, your returns are based on time and risk. Making money requires either a lot of time (putting retirement funds in safe blue chip indexes and increasing to millions over decades) or risk (gambling on shitcoins and short term options). Making it rich quickly in this case is just a lot of risk and luck, which means even an idiot who has no idea what he is doing, statistically if you got enough of them a few of them are going to make it big even if most lose everything.
 
Unless you have around seven figures to invest, you're not going to create a steady stream of passive income by investing. Expecting anything less to bring in a useful profit is going to depend on making risky investment moves that basically amount to playing the lottery. You might get lucky. You also might just lose a big chunk of the investment.

Your best investment is really just to put it in something that's got fairly good long-term prospects and continue putting money in regularly. At the front end of your investment, your account will grow because you continually put more money in, not because you were an investment genius. Whatever you can spare to budget to go into that account is going to absolutely dwarf whatever percent return you could hope to get without risking it all on some gamble.

It takes a lot of time and a lot of investment - by which I mean putting money into your investments - before you'll have enough invested that you can afford to start taking money out of them. It's why they're typically used as retirement assets.
 
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Has anyone of you people diversified your investments and managed to create a steady stream of passive income? I have some money set aside and I'm wondering if I need to even try. I'm also saving for my own place so I'm not sure how much I can afford to lose.
There's a huge investment company in my city, should I just pick up the phone or go there and ask to speak to somebody?

I go out I see some 25yo guys driving $100 000 cars, in my country's subreddit some 26yo fag posted how he made 75k in the last 5 months.
Is it crypto? What is it? How do these people have so much money? I'm an experienced fullstack developer making 3 times the national average and I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a car for half that price and to make $75k for 5months ill need to become a drug mule or something. Meanwhile some people younger than me appear to be making twice the USA national average and I honestly have no idea how that happens.

How did you become rich?
Fundamentally, if you lack any sort of knowledge or strategy edge, your returns are based on time and risk. Making money requires either a lot of time (putting retirement funds in safe blue chip indexes and increasing to millions over decades) or risk (gambling on shitcoins and short term options). Making it rich quickly in this case is just a lot of risk and luck, which means even an idiot who has no idea what he is doing, statistically if you got enough of them a few of them are going to make it big even if most lose everything.
Unless you have around seven figures to invest, you're not going to create a steady stream of passive income by investing. Expecting anything less to bring in a useful profit is going to depend on making risky investment moves that basically amount to playing the lottery. You might get lucky. You also might just lose a big chunk of the investment.

Your best investment is really just to put it in something that's got fairly good long-term prospects and continue putting money in regularly. At the front end of your investment, your account will grow because you continually put more money in, not because you were an investment genius. Whatever you can spare to budget to go into that account is going to absolutely dwarf whatever percent return you could hope to get without risking it all on some gamble.

It takes a lot of time and a lot of investment - by which I mean putting money into your investments - before you'll have enough invested that you can afford to start taking money out of them. It's why they're typically used as retirement assets.
Someone correct me if I'm way off-base, but:

Easy to acquire assets
  • Stocks
  • Bonds
  • Precious metals

Harder to acquire assets
  • Real estate
  • Businesses
 
I'm thinking of putting some cash in stocks, I was at Salt Shack and I overheard some friends saying it's ripe enough, but Is this a good time to buy stocks? I’ve been sitting on over $545K equity from a home sale and I’m not sure where to go from here, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?
 
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I'm thinking of putting some cash in stocks, I was at Salt Shack and I overheard some friends saying it's ripe enough, but Is this a good time to buy stocks? I’ve been sitting on over $545K equity from a home sale and I’m not sure where to go from here, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?

The best time to buy was yesterday, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, etc. The second best time time to buy is now.

 
I'm thinking of putting some cash in stocks, I was at Salt Shack and I overheard some friends saying it's ripe enough, but Is this a good time to buy stocks? I’ve been sitting on over $545K equity from a home sale and I’m not sure where to go from here, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?
Come up with a portfolio based on the duration of investment and risk tolerance you are taking. Keep in mind if you are planning on withdrawing from this investment you will need to account for that as well. Once you have a portfolio plan come up with a plan for entering the market. Placing all your money in an asset at once will be more volatile then dca-ing into a position over some amount of time. Personally i think 5% is a decent return on cash so i wouldnt have a problem dca-ing over a long period of time. I personally see the top S&P stocks and bonds (us10yr+) being overvalued but its foolish to try and time the market, especially if you are asking for advice.
 
I live in an area with multi familly units that shot up on mass starting in 2018, none of these new buildings have occupancy,
No shit, the most important housing stock that is needed in the US and Europe are first homes: simple two bedroom houses that people can get in and start chipping away at their mortgage payments. What is getting built? Shoebox sized 3 bedroom houses that are designed for people on 50k+ per year's first house or someone's second house.

Why? Because construction firms aren't making any money off those basic 2 bedroom starter houses, no council wants to approve the planning of huge estates of cheap housing because it makes their town/city look more impoverished, so instead they approve these houses that barely anyone can afford so end up going empty.

Just like retail space etc. companies are willing to just let these empty units remain empty to avoid tanking in value by cutting the price of them.
 
Beginner PSA: you can get ~5% just by parking money in a Fidelity cash account (or equivalent). Too many people leave money in what their bank calls a "high interest account" that's offering something stupid like 1%. Do that through your 20s and you've basically been robbed of 5 figures.
 
Beginner PSA: you can get ~5% just by parking money in a Fidelity cash account (or equivalent). Too many people leave money in what their bank calls a "high interest account" that's offering something stupid like 1%. Do that through your 20s and you've basically been robbed of 5 figures.
At the beginning of my adult financial life saving accounts/money markets were paying 3%, then after the 2008 financial crisis they paid jack squat for 15 years(!) until end of 2022. The idea of getting paid for cash has to be a totally foreign concept for younger people. That said, 5% is not going to last forever.
. I personally see bonds (us10yr+) being overvalued
You think interest rates are going to go up a bit before they go down?
 
Beginner PSA: you can get ~5% just by parking money in a Fidelity cash account (or equivalent). Too many people leave money in what their bank calls a "high interest account" that's offering something stupid like 1%. Do that through your 20s and you've basically been robbed of 5 figures.
Money Market Funds are based. Just make sure you don’t get Buck Broken. Basically, the money market fund is supposed to be $1 per share at all times. If it goes below $1 a share, this is extremely bad, and known as Breaking The Buck. You have to hope that whatever institution is running the fund will infuse cash to make it $1 per share again. The institutions are giants like Blackrock and Vanguard and it’s extremely bad if the buck gets broken, so chances are they would make it whole. But you never know with someone like Larry Fink at the helm.

Still, 5.25% is much better than Wells Fargo or CitiBank giving you a 1.9% turd in a bucket. MMFs will get you a nice $100-300 a month and you can pull out whenever, unlike a Roth.
 
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