UK Inside the dark world of bug chasing - Moment gay man, 53, on a mission to get HIV reveals he 'liked it' when a man he'd slept with texted him to reveal he had AIDS

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A controversial sexual fetish where people actively seek to contract HIV has been explored in a Channel 4 documentary.

It’s a Sin actor Nathaniel J Hall, from Manchester, investigated the world of 'bug chasing' and spoke to a 'chaser', a man who doesn’t take PrEP – medication which prevents HIV from getting into the body – in his mission to contract the virus.

Elsewhere Nathaniel met another man, a so-called 'gifter' with HIV, who is happy to transmit the virus to willing recipients.

Nathan, who is HIV positive himself, became emotional at one point, asking: 'Why do we feel so s*** about ourselves that we want to do this to ourselves.'

One gay man explained it that it was always on his mind tht he could contract the virus, so his way of dealing with it was to 'actively chase it', while others seem to love the thrill of the 'risk' of catching the virus through unprotected sex.

Although the outlook for people with HIV has significantly improved over the past 10 years, the virus damages the immune system, making it hard for the body to fight other diseases, which means it still has the potential to cause serious illness.

Despite this, 'the chaser' admitted to going on the dark web to actively seek out people with HIV to send him their semen in a condom.

He said: 'I went onto the dark web website, and they supposedly send you their semen in a condom. I tried it once and it hadn't worked.'

'The chaser' also revealed he wouldn't consider taking PrEP before sex with men whose viral load is detectable.

Viral load refers to the amount of virus in an infected person's blood. If a person is taking HIV treatment but their viral load is detectable, the treatment is not working properly and there may still be a risk of HIV transmission to sexual partners.

Asked why he doesn't take PrEP and carry on with the fantasy of having sex with HIV positive men, he said: 'If you’re going to do what you feel is right, then it should be real, so PrEP is not on the agenda.'

'The chaser' revealed he would never take HIV medication if he did end up getting the virus, despite knowing he could die.

He said: 'I don't feel the need to, I would just be my normal self until I can't carry on. I am prepared and ready for my time when it comes.'

Nathaniel pointed out that living with HIV costs the NHS, however the 'chaser' wasn't phased saying: 'I paid into the NHS my whole life. If I need to be cared for by the NHS then I expect to be.'

The 'chaser' detailed the first time he slept with someone with HIV, saying: 'I went to Amsterdam and went down the stairs and there was loads of hot guys, I gave one my phone number and three days later he messaged saying ''I got AIDS, haha'. I quite liked that.'

When Nathaniel asked if he was scared of getting HIV, 'the chaser' replied: 'No it's just like getting the flu.'

Nathaniel responded: 'Well, it is a little bit different to the flu, it can actually kill you.' To which 'the chaser' quipped: 'It can, but so can the flu.'

The actor pointed out that without treatment AIDS is 'guaranteed to kill you' but the chances of dying from the flu 'are much less.'

'The chaser' added: 'Well on that point you are correct but I am 53-years-old, I have come to the point in life where I do what I want to do.'

Elsewhere Nathaniel met with a 'gifter' to find out the reasoning behind wanting to pass on the virus to others.

Nathaniel, who was diagnosed with HIV when he was 16 and became an activist after years of shame, first heard about bug chasing 10 years ago when someone messaged him on a dating app asking would he 'gift them' his HIV.
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Elsewhere Nathaniel met another man, a so-called 'gifter' with HIV, who is happy to transmit the virus to willing recipients

The actor said: 'I can't wrap my head around this. Why would someone want to pass on HIV? Most people who are HIV positive like me are taking medication so we can't pass it on and we are desperate not to, so this is the bit that I have been absolutely dreading.'

The 'gifter', who covered his face with a mask to conceal his identity, revealed he has been HIV positive for 18 months and he doesn't take any medication for it.

He said: 'I have been doing unprotected bareback sex for about seven or eight years. It was always on my mind if this would be the time that I would end up HIV positive, I couldn't fully relax so in the end I decided to actively chase it.

'When I started doing bareback sex it was like being let off the leash almost, because I had led quite a closeted life until that point.'

Speaking about 'gifting' his HIV to someone for the first time he added: 'I feel like I gave him a present he had been wanting for a long time.'

He added: 'When people ask me to infect them, I do have quite a long chat with them about potential consequences.'

Nathaniel discovered that although most of the bug chasing is taking part online as a fantasy, there are a small minority of people who are acting it out in real life.

He said: 'It's complicated but I think it has something to do with our shared experiences of stigma and shame as gay men.'

Looking on an online forum, he discovered posts from people who talked about the efforts they've made - using the slag term 'poz' to indicate HIV positive.

'I've crashed a few poz only parties. At one I had to pretend to be poz to get in, which by itself was such a rush,' one wrote.

'You can see there's risk involved here. The thrill,' Nathaniel commented.
 
Unfortunately, these people have a tendency to not keep it in the family, as it were. Remember when Monkey Pox was the new scary disease on the rise? Right up until people started asking why small children and Dogs were catching it? Funny how it immediately dropped off the media's radar after that.
That was strange wasn't it? This was supposed to be the new pandemic until it turned out the clusters of infection were from piss orgies and other weird gay fetish sex parties. Then the kids and dogs started getting this clearly sexually transmitted disease and it disappeared overnight.

All this wouldn't be anywhere near as much of an issue without same-sex couple adoption.
 
Shit like this makes me wonder whether its time to fuck off all rights, all laws and purge the cancerous and the weak.
The purge you describe is naturally occurring under certain conditions. Historically, all collapsing societies descend into internal strife and barbarism--either quickly or slowly, but the end is the same. Hedonism as practiced by these death-seeking, barebacking clowns described in the article is unsustainable in such a world, although the young and attractive will be able to barter with sexual favors. The HIV-positive will die for lack of medicines and medical treatment, along with diabetics and cancer patients and old people in general.

This isn't dystopian science fiction. This is now in the real world in places all over the globe, and it can happen here. One could argue it already is happening here.
 
Imagine being so completely and utterly broken by degeneracy, that your primary goal in life is to contract a deadly, incurable disease.

"But life expectancy for HIV+ people is the same as for negative people now!" If, and that is IF you're on regular courses of drugs. You become a slave to pharmaceutical companies FOR LIFE. Or you die a miserable death.

Somewhere in the Immataerium, Nurgle laughs with glee...
 
One of these days some pissed off fag is going to get the gift without warning, then pop off and start trapping and murdering dudes on these bugchasing forums. Probably just like blowing their heads off.

Some reporter's gonna notice a pattern, write up a story about it, but then their editor's gonna force them to omit the HIV angle to it and play it up as yet another "serial killer targeting vulnerable population forced to hide underground" (like it's the fucking 70's again).

And then we'll get a netflix documentary in a couple years that all the housewives will binge along with other true crime shlock. Rinse, repeat.

(true crime's entertaining, don't get me wrong)
 
Nathaniel pointed out that living with HIV costs the NHS, however the 'chaser' wasn't phased saying: 'I paid into the NHS my whole life. If I need to be cared for by the NHS then I expect to be.'
I seem to recall that NHS refused to treat certain COVID/vaccine-related stuff. If they can refuse people who paid into NHS their whole life while giving Abdul and Mojumbo free care, then he's in for a shock.
 
I thought the LGB was totally cool and baste and it’s only the Ts that are the problem?

Eventually there will be an HIV strain that PrEP can’t deal with and it’ll be the 80s and 90s all over again where we have to pretend we can get AIDS by drinking from a water fountain just so we can pretend it’s not from fag sex or infected needles from druggies to avoid hurting anyone’s feelings. We’ve learned nothing.
 
No sane person would think this is controversial, but rather insane, plane and simple. The people defending this "lifestyle" are obviously degenerates who are very, very mentally ill. Do you know any normal person who would like to willingly get the flu? Me neither, now imagine a way more dangerous and deathly disease.
The original Patient Zero for AIDS, the flight attendant, got off on infecting people. Even when he was visibly sick with lesions he'd go to bathouses trying to infect as many people as he could and got pissed when people told him to stop.
 
Anyone who still believes in gay equality and that most of the beliefs are old-time superstitions, really need to read "And The Band Played On." Gay journo covering the AIDS epidemic in the 1980's, doctors easily figure out it's mostly a gay dude problem and recommend to stop fucking or at least use a condom; and the gay community couldn't handle such an insult. They later went on to blame Reagan and everyone else about their health problems.
 
Anyone who still believes in gay equality and that most of the beliefs are old-time superstitions, really need to read "And The Band Played On." Gay journo covering the AIDS epidemic in the 1980's, doctors easily figure out it's mostly a gay dude problem and recommend to stop fucking or at least use a condom; and the gay community couldn't handle such an insult. They later went on to blame Reagan and everyone else about their health problems.
The Reagan angle never made sense to me, even in my most liberal days. They blame Reagan for what, not taking it seriously? What would taking it seriously have meant? Probably shutting down gay bars, which if he had done they would have called him a fascist. STDs really are just a material thorn in the side of libertine ideology. Biology is punishing you for your sins in the most unambiguous form imaginable, so what else can you do but blame "the system". Anything to keep from admitting those desert nomads with their funny stories about sodom and gomorrah might have not been completely full of shit.
 
I do respect sodomites who embrace their misanthropic condition and get "pregnant" through chasing the bug and spreading it out as much as possible. Not like those fags who want to start lame normie families and be respectful members of npc society.
And just like the movie cruising where they stab each other in public parks spreading their anti-life mission is based too.
 
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