I think it is trade off that we don't see the value in yet, we lose the utility of knowing what are level of engagement is in payment for cutting off the danger of a perverse incentive to posting habits, not everyone should need this of course but if we dosee a change in content quality or not I hope it is something lord and saviour will give us a perspective review on. Maybe even consider other options because I do miss the pop ups.
There's always tradeoff, and while the pro-sticker sperging gets heated, the anti-sticker brigade isn't helping by pretending there's absolutely nothing of value being lost. I've been sperging about this for a week, but I actually agree with most of what Null said about DMs, reaction scores, and the SQL performance. I don't agree about the sticker notifications, or that their removal will fix the behavior he dislikes.
I have yet to see anyone explain a positive model of how you're supposed to navigate the site "properly", other than "don't hide in DMs". Using sticker notifications to jump between threads is "wrong", doing the same thing with extra clicks is somehow "acceptable" since it's still allowed, but what is
ideal?
- Are we all supposed to click every new Watched Thread notification like dopamine addicts?
- Or do we ignore those and click whatever's top of board?
- Are we supposed to focus on threads we're interested in, or spread out across the boards?
- Either way, doesn't the Featured banner funnel traffic in a way antithetical to both models?
- If Null wants us to random walk through the site, why is there no Random Thread button?
- Null previously said he wishes more people used the Off Topic boards, and the front page features help that; but then why expect us to navigate the faster-moving boards the same way as largely static cow boards/threads?
There's a missing element of intentionality here, and in the ~40 year history of software design, that
always has blowback.
Null should have just nuked the reaction scores (or made them generically positive/negative) and waited a week, see how that turns out. If he still sees gay furfags doing ERP DMs and needs that out in the open,
then he could try turning off individual users' notifications. If that doesn't move things the way he wants,
then try nuking sticker notifications.
Instead we went from Yet Another DM Scandal to site-wide meltdown in the space of one afternoon. Incrementalism would have been way more informative, letting us actually see how each individual part affected site users. Not to mention it would be less contentious.
I understand Null got pissed, and I don't blame him for raging at some the crap in this thread. He's been accused of everything from Tumblr style hugboxing, to selling out for paypigs, to banging the biggest man-hating tophat collector. But a lot of this reflects the wildness of multiple changes and multiple generalizations being flung out.