Avatar: The Last Airbender / The Legend of Korra

Avatar: Best animated series or best animated series ever?

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Corbax said:
I doubt that Iroh was a saint, but that's part of the reason I like his character. His attempt at conquest cost him his son and that loss changed him for the better. He paid the price for his part in the war and had to atone for it. It's more interesting than him being purely good from the start.
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Nobody was a saint in ATLAB, neither as individuals or as nations.

Aang didn't want to be an avatar and kept running away from responsibility and hard decisions. Katara was moody and bossy. Zokka could be arrogant and jumping into ideas he really hadn't thought trough. Toph intentionally behaved in very rude and gross manner because she wanted be rebellious. Zuko had daddy issues.

Fire nation were war mongers. Water tribes were sexists, devastated by the war and kinda miserable palaces in general. Earth cities were more concerned with keeping up appearances rather than dealing with the problem. Air temples were dead because they were not able to defend themselves.
 
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Amber the Hedgehog said:
Nobody was a saint in ATLAB, neither as individuals or as nations.

Aang didn't want to be an avatar and kept running away from responsibility and hard decisions. Katara was moody and bossy. Zokka could be arrogant and jumping into ideas he really hadn't thought trough. Toph intentionally behaved in very rude and gross manner because she wanted be rebellious. Zuko had daddy issues.

Fire nation were war mongers. Water tribes were sexists, devastated by the war and kinda miserable palaces in general. Earth cities were more concerned with keeping up appearances rather than dealing with the problem. Air temples were dead because they were not able to defend themselves.
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I don't remember Sokka being arrogant except very early on in the series when he was still being sexist, he was mainly unsure of himself because of his lack of bending because he wanted to be a great warrior.
 
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Mary Lee Harvey Walsh said:
Anyone ever play tabletop game? I haven't played it but the fact that this page exists in it makes me immediately turn in the other direction.

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You can thank the shitty Legend of Korra comics for introducing this horseshit, with its crowning achievement of hilarity being Korra proclaims Sozin was “the worst” for banning gay marriage after being told that by Aang’s lesbo daughter.

The genocide and starting a world war campaign doesn’t matter if two gays can’t kiss in public.
 
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Rondo Richter Belmont said:
You can thank the shitty Legend of Korra comics for introducing this horseshit, with its crowning achievement of hilarity being Korra proclaims Sozin was “the worst” for banning gay marriage after being told that by Aang’s lesbo daughter.

The genocide and starting a world war campaign doesn’t matter if two gays can’t kiss in public.
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That was the thing about Korra as opposed to TLA - the latter was a kid's show that was surprisingly mature, whereas the former was a show for teenagers that was every bit as immature as one could be.

All the relationship angst, Korra herself, the fart jokes and lord knows how many other examples of things that broke the immersion.
 
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starborn427614 said:
That was the thing about Korra as opposed to TLA - the latter was a kid's show that was surprisingly mature, whereas the former was a show for teenagers that was every bit as immature as one could be.

All the relationship angst, Korra herself, the fart jokes and lord knows how many other examples of things that broke the immersion.
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Other people in this thread have mentioned it (Or in video with E;R) is that Korra had just a lot of stupid shit besides that, killing off the original Avatar Cycle for a new one where Korra is the first one or bringing the Airbenders by Harmonic Convergence was far more terrible and breaking than shitty love triangles or fart jokes at least for me overall.

That and the massive time jump of the world and Republic City because Bryan had a hard-on for 1920s NYC.
 
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Rondo Richter Belmont said:
Other people in this thread have mentioned it (Or in video with E;R) is that Korra had just a lot of stupid shit besides that, killing off the original Avatar Cycle for a new one where Korra is the first one or bringing the Airbenders by Harmonic Convergence was far more terrible and breaking than shitty love triangles or fart jokes at least for me overall.

That and the massive time jump of the world and Republic City because Bryan had a hard-on for 1920s NYC.
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The killing off the original Avatar Cycle is what angers me far more than anything else. I can put up with the annoying Kyoshi suddenly being bisexual, the fart jokes, the awful love triangles, and everything. But by severing that link - the 10,000-year link, no less! - they have proven they don't give a single shit about the original Avatar series. I found it fascinating that Aang had past lives. Even if he didn't interact with all several-thousand of them, I just found the concept really neat. But whoops! Nope! We can't have that anymore! We have to have angsty teen drama instead!

Defenders of this absurd decision say that they did it so that the show didn't have to rely on constant callbacks to AtLA. If that was the case, then why did they do that anyway by having Toph randomly show up as a swamp grandma? Or have Zuko show up for three minutes? Or the whole "Aang was a shit father" saga? (Then again, that's also somewhat of a, "See? We are cooler and edgier than our predecessor" decision.) Or they say that Korra had to learn how to be her own person without being "the Avatar." Okay, but Korra learned precisely nothing except that Sozin was "the worst" for outlawing gay marriage.

I should have just turned off Korra the moment she lost her connection with the past. But I think I kept watching in a vain hope that she would regain it. But no, they just kind of shove it aside and don't address it again.
 
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Mary Lee Harvey Walsh said:
I should have just turned off Korra the moment she lost her connection with the past. But I think I kept watching in a vain hope that she would regain it. But no, they just kind of shove it aside and don't address it again.
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Breich doesn't care about the series. They didn't write everything. ATLA was just lightning in a bottle. Breich are very much ideas guys who have interesting ideas but no filter for bad ones. They need a team of writers that tell them "No. That's dumb. Try again". to bring out the best they could do.
 
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Mary Lee Harvey Walsh said:
The killing off the original Avatar Cycle is what angers me far more than anything else. I can put up with the annoying Kyoshi suddenly being bisexual, the fart jokes, the awful love triangles, and everything. But by severing that link - the 10,000-year link, no less! - they have proven they don't give a single shit about the original Avatar series. I found it fascinating that Aang had past lives. Even if he didn't interact with all several-thousand of them, I just found the concept really neat. But whoops! Nope! We can't have that anymore! We have to have angsty teen drama instead!

Defenders of this absurd decision say that they did it so that the show didn't have to rely on constant callbacks to AtLA. If that was the case, then why did they do that anyway by having Toph randomly show up as a swamp grandma? Or have Zuko show up for three minutes? Or the whole "Aang was a shit father" saga? (Then again, that's also somewhat of a, "See? We are cooler and edgier than our predecessor" decision.) Or they say that Korra had to learn how to be her own person without being "the Avatar." Okay, but Korra learned precisely nothing except that Sozin was "the worst" for outlawing gay marriage.

I should have just turned off Korra the moment she lost her connection with the past. But I think I kept watching in a vain hope that she would regain it. But no, they just kind of shove it aside and don't address it again.
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That defense is incredibly fucking retarded.

Korra has used ATLA as a crutch since day one, back when shit like news articles or SDCC had Tenzin and revealing him as Aang’s airbender son. The first episode has Katara validating Korra and encouraging her to leave for her own adventure, like how Gran Gran told her as a teenager or how about Tenzin coming with his kids and Jinora asking Katara about Zuko’s Mom?

This is just surface level and doesn’t include stuff such as Lin Beifong who ends up in a relationship with Tenzin before it’s broken off, Flame-O Noodles, Zuko’s grandson who is named after Iroh and also holds General as his rank while being voiced by Dante Basco when the character is apparently forty...Or that Toph’s other unmentioned daughter started her own city / micronation in the Earth Kingdom.

This shit NEEDED the callbacks.

Let’s be honest they got rid of the Avatar Cycle as a means of not only “subverting expectations” but to make Korra important as fuck, because she’s now the VERY FIRST AVATAR in this cycle.
 
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Lazy Printer said:
"And also outlawed same sex marriage later in his life" leftists need to stip making villains look good.
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Its also hilarious since pretty much every renaissance (and most classical) societies just outright started out killing or at least heavily ostracizing people for just being gay. The fact that the fire nation ever legalized it is beyond fucking retarded.
 
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The first comment on this thread is so wholesome and sincere lmao. From "I love this show, I hope the next season is good" to "Sozin did nothing wrong, wokies ruin everything, fuck this franchise".
 
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