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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

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In a statement, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The BBC understands no other royal - including the Queen or Prince William - was consulted before the statement and Buckingham Palace is "disappointed".

Senior royals are understood to be "hurt" by the announcement.

In their unexpected statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen."

They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said discussions with the duke and duchess on their decision to step back were "at an early stage", adding: "We understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through."

The couple's announcement on Wednesday comes two months after the Duke of York withdrew from public life after a BBC interview about his ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August.

 
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I’m not an expert but it seems to me that a colostomy bag here is entirely possible.
If it’s on her right side it’s an ileostomy bag (they stink worse by the way) and if it’s on her left it’s a colostomy bag. As pointed out earlier in the thread a stoma can be either temporary or permanent. I can buy into the school of thought that she is between surgeries and that’s why she hasn’t been sighted.
If Charles has pancreatic cancer that’s a death sentence. Very few people survive it, you’d need to catch it immediately. Many patients often have surgery as well and as far as we can see he hasn’t - if it was caught during prostate surgery my bet would have been a bowel/lower GI tract tumour. How fingers show he’s had some issue for a while. The irony of waiting so long then dying in a year or so. Buy commemorative coins i guess, they’ll appreciate in value
I cannot see wills knocking Kate around somehow, it just doesn’t scan.

This would be good, she’s about the most sensible of the lot.
Pancreatic cancer is indeed a death sentence.
I lost my dad and uncle (his brother) to it, my dad died in 18 months despite a successful initial surgery (which is rare in itself) and my uncle died in just over six months. The problem with this type of cancer is that usually by the time you exhibit symptoms it’s already too late to treat effectively.
 
She had severe hyperemesis with the pregnancies. That can also do a lot of damage - if she’s needed a mesh repair for a hiatal hernia or similar she will need a long recovery time. She’s judged relentlessly on how she looks (I know people like to screech about how women are in general but really, no one gives a shit if I’m at work and didn’t notice one of the kids spilled something on me before I left the house - but she genuinely is judged for it.) I don’t blame her for lying low.
I've always been surprised that Will and Kate had a third child -- her first two pregnancies were rough enough, and a lot of Britons were angry because the everyday folks are encouraged to have no more than two children to avoid burdening the state. Some feel having a third child was an offensive show of their affluence. I wouldn't be surprised if the third baby tanked her health, especially if she had autoimmune issues beforehand.
 
So just say that, and say she doesn't want to be photographed because she looks like death following a colon resection. The only reason there is a feeding frenzy now is because they decided to go full "weekend at bernies" with her twitter account.

Or, hear me out, she could continue to say nothing about her (imaginary, speculative, quite possibly entirely made up) colostomy bag and/or hysterectomy because who the hell cares and spoiler alert, if she caves and gives in to the screeching of weirdos who keep demanding the deets, it won't actually shut anybody up but in fact will train the obsessive freaks that screeching loudly and long enough will get them whatever they want. You know, whatevs, either way.
 
lost my dad and uncle (his brother) to it, my dad died in 18 months despite a successful initial surgery (which is rare in itself) and my uncle died in just over six months. The problem with this type of cancer is that usually by the time you exhibit symptoms it’s already too late to treat effectively.
I’m sorry to hear that. Hopefully chance and not genetic (likely not so) Keep an eye on your blood sugar - raised blood sugar with no reason can be a very early indicator, esp. if combined with unexplained weight loss.
I've always been surprised that Will and Kate had a third child -- her first two pregnancies were rough enough, and a lot of Britons were angry because the everyday folks are encouraged to have no more than two children. I wouldn't be surprised if the third baby tanked her health.
I know someone who had this - worse than Kate, she was sick dozens of times a day from conception to birth, and she had four kids. But she was very weakened by it, and continues to have after effects, ended up in hospital on a drip needing rehydration and electrolytes sorted a few times. Lots of problems from it, including a hernia. The drive to reproduce is pretty strong.
 
I think some of the media have never seen a child before.
Well, people are used to the artificial images of instathots detailing every aspect of their lives and they rarely have kids and when they do, they hide them. That's one of the reasons they're freaking out for, they aren't sure what to do with someone who's not gonna vent all her issues in some tell-all video playing the ukelele.
 
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I’m not an expert but it seems to me that a colostomy bag here is entirely possible.
Why would they put her in a form fitting dress though? She could have worn something that didn't hug her waist so much. Not saying there's no bag under her dress, but it's a puzzling choice.
But...why?
From what I understand the main value of the royal family is appearances. They're like some kind of public dollhouse for people to ogle and gossip about, so they try to look as perfect and flawless as possible. They also have this tabloid culture that is always looking to sensationalize anything that happens to them and frame things in the worst way possible to sell copies. Not that I'm empathizing with them mind you, Kate especially chose to be where she is, she knew what she was getting into.
“Royal ai image generator why did you create a picture where the future young prince has a mangled hand.”
Honestly I don't think the hand looks that fake. That's just that weird "west coast" hand symbol that american black people use, with the pointer finger folded back. You can do it yourself, probably with some effort, but little kids are stretchy and could do that easily.
 
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Why would they put her in a form fitting dress though? She could have worn something that didn't hug her waist so much. Not saying there's no bag under her dress, but it's a puzzling choice.
yeah that seems weird, even if it's just a weird lumpy bulge by happenstance it seems like somebody should have gone "wait there's a weird lumpy bulge on this dress, let's use one of the dozen others custom made for you because that's how we roll"
 
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I’m not an expert but it seems to me that a colostomy bag here is entirely possible.
Theres definitely something there. Heres another pic which looks to be taken within the same couple seconds of the one in above image. In this picture its less obvious but you can still see a circular outline of something thanks to the seqins:
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Basing anything on the contents of Spare is retarded. The entire DV/affair/pegging narrative came from Meghan. Besides, if William was having an affair, I'd expect it involve rubber wellingtons and a horse. That's much more in keeping with previous royal behaviours (not looking at anyone at all Charles).
I thought the Rose Hanbury as mistress was fairly well known, altho illegal to say so in Bongland in a direct way thanks to some super injunction. Ended November, supposedly. Farm animals and men / youths can never be discounted obviously given the context.
 
Why would they put her in a form fitting dress though? She could have worn something that didn't hug her waist so much. Not saying there's no bag under her dress, but it's a puzzling choice.
I saw the pic and didn't notice. Unless you want to notice something is odd, it's more likely your brain will ignore it and assume it's just a bad fold going on there.

I am going to assume the royals aren't yet aware of 4chan levels of autism that it's now normal online among obsessed fans and "stans".
 
The main reason this has attracted so much attention is because the initial story wasn't adding up.

On the 28th December (shortly after she was last seen on Christmas Day), The Palace had announced a variety of Spring engagements for the Princess, including a planned tour of Italy and more focus on her "Shaping Us" campaign for the Centre for Early Childhood Royal Foundation. Allegedly later that same day a police convoy and ambulance rushed out of Sandringham (where Kate and the rest of the Royals were spending Christmas) all the way to Marylebone in London (there were some photos etc. on twitter) where the London Clinic is (the London Clinic is the largest private hospital in the UK and often treats royals)

The Palace didn't say anything but announced in mid-January that Kate had gone in for a "planned abdominal surgery" at the London Clinic. Close friends apparently were "blindsided" by this according to Palace sources (while this sounds like gossip, the Royal Family correspondents have a complex web of reporting and sources). This resulted in planned appointments being cancelled (through to Trooping The Colour in June), but if it had been planned then it's not clear why the appointments were made in the first place. Shortly after there's a hatchet job on Kate published by The Mirror painting her as a crazy bitch, which is then hastily edited to be about Prince Harry. There's archives showing the original (and look at the URL) but the Internet Archive is now throwing errors.

A Spanish journalist, Concha Calleja, went on national TV in Spain around this time claiming to have a very trusted inside source (and it's worth noting their expert nanny/bodyguard who works closely with Kate, Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo, is Spanish) and insisting that the Palace was lying and that actually Kate had been in hospital since the 28th of December.

During her hospital stay, William was seen visiting only once and the children weren't seen visiting at all. She was discharged shortly after Charles also began treatment at the London Clinic and "returned home" (and by comparison there were multiple noted visits to the King - this radio silence is very at odds with Royal PR). That Spanish journalist then reiterated not only that the Palace was lying, but that Kate had been in a medically induced coma and her life was in "great danger", and "an entire hospital" had been set up at the Princess's home.

Will remains evasive after this point, claiming he's "focusing on work" and possibly appears drunk at the investiture ceremony, swaying and blinking weirdly and dropping a medal. He also issues a statement on Gaza using only his crest (the W)
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rather than the normal Kensington Palace header they use to show unity
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Suddenly, at the end of February, Wills short notice pulls out of a reading at his Godfather's memorial service and a few days later Kate is seemingly spotted for the first time since Christmas in a drive with her mother.
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Subsequently there's the weird family shot photo that seems to have digitally altered outfits matching an excursion by the Royal family back in November (it's too autistic for me to get into on this already autistic post). The very first time we actually hear from Kate directly (supposedly) is after that photo gets pulled by the press and Kate goes "oopsie I photoshopped it haha". And then we get another pap shot which may in fact be a digitally altered photo from Christmas -
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- and the accompanying explanation is confused (seemingly Kate rode with William in a car to a Royal Engagement she did not attend).

So it's PR-fumble after PR-fumble if the official story is true and it has left loads of gaps where this speculation has arisen - not so much "did Kate photoshop the pictures" but "did the Palace photoshop a picture to make it look like Kate is ok".

I think the clearest point is that the surgery in January cannot have been planned much in advance, as they wouldn't have announced the Spring plans only to cancel them. Possibly she's had a medical emergency and they're trying to downplay it, or there were serious complications that resulted (or maybe she's just got post-surgery moonface and doesn't want to be seen). But also there's arguments to be had that Kate was either completely AWOL or was in some way refusing to cooperate with the Royal PR machine (due to the marriage being on the rocks?). Feasible (but unlikely) is she demanded some plastic surgery ahead of short-notice becoming Queen if Charles is really taking a turn for the worse, she had to get psychological treatment for bulimia ahead of being Queen, she bulimia'd herself into needing hospital treatment or indeed that Wills is a wife beater and the palace weren't sure if Kate would recover. My personal favourite is she drunkenly cut her own bangs and is trying to grow them out without people noticing.
 
I don’t think it was a hysterectomy, but I have no idea what it could have been. Hysterectomies can go bad as mentioned before, but typically require a hospital stay of less than a week, sometimes even only 48 hours, though it varies by procedure type and hospital policy. Even before her surgery concluded, Catherine scheduled to convalesce in the hospital for TWO WEEKS prior to her months-long absence. That is a SERIOUSLY long stay for a planned surgery. I think part of her digestive tract is gonezo.
 
but if it had been planned then it's not clear why the appointments were made in the first place.
Just a few things to be pedantic. Planned means anything not brought in under screeching blue lights. If you have a serious issue come on fast and you can wait while they plan it, it’s planned
the children weren't seen visiting at all
The London clinic has a no children policy, so I think this is no issue. I would t want my kids to have visited me if I was in a state, it’s upsetting for them
but that Kate had been in a medically induced coma
This one cannot be true becasue they claimed she had been pretty much up to discharge. Even plebs don’t get kicked out the day after being in any kind of coma.
Sorry for being pedantic
 
On the 28th December (shortly after she was last seen on Christmas Day), The Palace had announced a variety of Spring engagements for the Princess.... Allegedly later that same day a police convoy and ambulance rushed out of Sandringham (where Kate and the rest of the Royals were spending Christmas) all the way to Marylebone in London (there were some photos etc. on twitter) where the London Clinic is (the London Clinic is the largest private hospital in the UK and often treats royals)

The Palace didn't say anything but announced in mid-January that Kate had gone in for a "planned abdominal surgery" at the London Clinic.

Couldn't it simply be that she experienced an emergency of some sort that day, was rushed to the hospital where the emergency was stabilized, and then they scheduled ("planned") a necessary surgery subsequent to that? I feel like William of Ockham screaming into the increasingly-complex void over here.
 
Couldn't it simply be that she experienced an emergency of some sort that day, was rushed to the hospital where the emergency was stabilized, and then they scheduled ("planned") a necessary surgery subsequent to that? I feel like William of Ockham screaming into the increasingly-complex void over here.
for me it's like JFG and The Mystery Of The Missing Potato
yes, this _might_ not be something hella sus, but holy shit have they managed to do every single thing possible wrong to make it look sus af if it wasn't already
 
One of the current books on the Royal family (Palace Papers, IIRC) said that Catherine was bullied so badly at her first boarding school she developed a skin condition, and her parents immediately transferred her to a better school, where her condition cleared up.

I cannot imagine being in the public spotlight, with Charles being ill, and having the gruesome twosome constantly nipping at her heels has made anything better lately.

Don't care what anyone says, I like her, William, and their family, and hate to see anyone put through all the BS they're going through.
 
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