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He hasn't even done the easiest thing in the world, setup a scheduling conference. Call Mr Hardin, propose a date for the meeting, go to the meeting, work out a plan.
Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)
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This isn’t how things are supposed to go. He was supposed to appeal, get his thread taken down, open a brothel, and force everyone who applied to work there to suck his dick as an audition. And Null is ruining that. He’s going off script. Error. Error.
He doesn’t get it. He tried the same thing he always does and it still didn’t work! Clearly the judge hates the disabled.
He doesn’t get it. He tried the same thing he always does and it still didn’t work! Clearly the judge hates the disabled.
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He doesn't even have to GO to the meeting. He can just do it over the fucking phone.
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And he's had his fill of it, so he's just going to ignore it and it will go away. He probably thinks he'll just brush it aside like he does with every other project he starts that doesn't instantly hand him fame, fortune, sex, etc.
He's been spending this entire time doing very important things like trying to buy a building for his imaginary brothel with no money, blogging about how he's going to overturn a law and force brothels back into Nevada's most religious county, and harassing a local pastor/lawyer on twitter in an attempt to have him disbarred for being against prostitution.
You know, things that actually matter.
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Before that call, he's been ordered to propose a schedule in the form of a draft attorney planning meeting report, and holy shit but he will not be able to work out what he should write in this document.
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I didn't mean to imply in-person. But actually that might be a good idea.
They have to meet at the Buc-ee's closest to equal distance from their homes, large public place, safe for both, unlikely to draw attention.
Fair enough. But the biggest problem with that document is the boxes are too small to fit in all of Greer's superior legal knowledge.
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They're supposed to deal with emergency motions like this immediately, so this had to come out first. It might be on Josh/Hardin to file a motion saying "hey, deadlines are blown past, new motion to dismiss" now. Technically I think the court can do something about it on their own but usually it's in response to a party motion.
They could rule on the other motions now, but they'll probably give Russ a chance to object, whine, claim he's getting lawyers in another 60 days, etc. Ultimately they 'll probably give him a small extension so everything isn't immediately due today.
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Its called Sua Sponte , or "On own Behalf". Which basically means the Court issues an order absent a motion requesting it do so. This is in the category of extraordinary remedies and Judges hate doing it. But they can, if they find the filings in the case present such a materially deficient scenario that they are against law or the rules on their face. This situation is far more "common" (as in, negligibly present, but more present then totally nonexistent) in Criminal law, where a Judge may throw out a Jury conviction, or end a trial before a Jury reaches a verdict. Of course, they better have a damn good reason, because this is one of the rare situations in which a criminal prosecutor can appeal.
In civil law, its VERY uncommon, because in Civil Law the role of the court is not to administer justice. Its to arbitrate an equitable outcome by determining if there was an injury, and if there was, what must be done to make the injured party whole. Putting the thumb on the scale is contrary to the intended purpose of civil litigation.
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Mr. Hardin already did that, at least for the scheduling order. "92: Feb 22, 2024 MOTION TO COMPEL COMPLIANCE WITH SCHEDULING ORDER OR FOR ALTERNATIVE RELIEF"
He could I guess file motions about all the other missed deadlines, or just let the court rule on the one open motion, two I guess if you include the invalid mailing address, not sure if that's considered a 'motion' or not.
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I mean he could bundle it all together and make a compelling motion to dismiss for failure to prosecute. Between all the missed deadlines, the stonewalled court ordered communications and the sworn documents declaring a mailing address that does not exist, is in fact Russ's point of service. It's transparently clear Russ is not ready to proceed and is deliberately fucking around hoping that his Pro Se Lawyers ride to his rescue. The Judge just called him out on that. It will be interesting to see how far the Judge is willing to take the matter.
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Yeah, but that risks mooting the Supreme Court grant of cert. Of course on that front Acerthorne has helpfully provided the reason for why Cert should still be granted (the forum is perpetually prejudiced by the decision), but the boat should not be rocked there.
At this point i feel letting things ride for the next few weeks is fine. Let Russel stew. let the 10th circuit stew too. The situation as it stands is fully briefed. Anything Hardin could add at this point would be more of the same.
At this point i feel letting things ride for the next few weeks is fine. Let Russel stew. let the 10th circuit stew too. The situation as it stands is fully briefed. Anything Hardin could add at this point would be more of the same.
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Russell's one redeeming trait is he doesn't live on welfare checks. He's gainfully employed. This means his paychecks can be garnished (and we can add "This thread has been funded by Russell Greer" to the title of his thread.) I'm not sure how garnishing paychecks works (and I'm too lazy to look it up), but I do believe it's automatic.
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Yeah, the court makes your employer fork over what you owe before your boss gives you what's left. It happened to a guy a know with child support.
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He could literally go to prison if he doesn't honor his debt.
Negative 14 days kinda does count like time, so I guess you're right
If they cared about that they would have either issued the requested stay, or issued their own pending the resolution of the writ request
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how? i thought debtors prison wasnt a thing anymore
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It would be a lot funnier to get Russ to assign the copyright to his songs over to Null in lieu of having to pay monetary damages. They're not worth anything, but trying to collect from Russ is just going to see him file even more stupid lawsuits and waste more of everyone's time.
Null could put them all together and release an album. There are probably enough Kiwis that can buy copies to get it high up on the charts, similar to Cuckmas Carols. I think it would piss Russ off to no end to see his songs sell thousands of copies and not get a single dime for it.
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If the court orders you to pay, you pay. Fatrick faced a similar dilemma with his debt to Quasi. Disobedience of court orders, Civil or Criminal, can lead to jail time. Of course, he wouldn't get an order like "you failed to pay debt, be in prison for 10 years", but instead would get an order like "stay in jail until you comply with the order". It would be different if he actually materially couldn't comply, but then it rests on whether or not the judge is a massive fucking dick.
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It's not, they can't put you in jail for being unable to pay. On the other hand refusing to follow a court order, when you have the ability, is contemptuous.
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I'd love to buy some physical copies of the book. A run of those would be some great site fundraiser merch.
Amazon doesn't have the option to buy a hard copy, just digital, and Russ already handed that out for free. On release day even.
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If Null personally signs it or something, I'd buy it.