Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Russia: launches cluster mines via MLRS
Ukraine: we have string!

I can't decide if NATO are really that shit, or if everyone in the west is just trolling Zelensksy for the lulz.
There is something to be said for simple equipment over really expensive and complicated ones. But you don't have to go quite so low tech as an RC car and some string.
A mine scatterer is a great compromise for that. It's low-tech enough that if need be you can just put it on the back of a Hilux, but it'll also work great on dedicated tracked vehicles like that Shielder, or on the side of a helicopter, and so on.
 
Everytime I check the ukies have one idea more stupid then the next. I'm not sure who the fuck is incharge of military strategy but if I was Jewlinsky I'd be asking for my fucking money back. Hopefully they surrender or are forced to negotiate soon because I'm not sure my brain cells can handle anymore blatant stupidity.
 
The Russians are reporting 1500 casualties, 500 KIA and 51 destroyed armoured vehicles/tanks for the Ukrainian PR offensive.

Those are probably inflated numbers but there's no doubt the Ukrainians are getting decimated on Russian soil. What the fuck were they thinking when planning this operation? This is as pointless as the Krinky firebag.
You are not seeing it from the general staffs perspective. they have invaded Russia and put the war on their home soil and diverted units away from the front. that will be the line used internally. the fact local Russian units were able to get to the front and help the local national guard units fucking decimate the SBU units is not important. it seems ever since the coooonter offensyiv its all about optics for the government.
 
The Russians are reporting 1500 casualties, 500 KIA and 51 destroyed armoured vehicles/tanks for the Ukrainian PR offensive.

Those are probably inflated numbers but there's no doubt the Ukrainians are getting decimated on Russian soil. What the fuck were they thinking when planning this operation? This is as pointless as the Krinky firebag.
PR win? I think the people planning these things haven't let it sunk in that these people and weapons are being decimated, and when they're gone they cannot be easily replaced.

They probably still think that if they get a superficial win then Russia will back off or NATO will send them more weapons and soldiers.
 
They probably still think that if they get a superficial win then NATO will send them more weapons and soldiers money for nose candy and villas in Côte d'Azur.
Fixed that for you. And they are not wrong, they have already secured the future for their great-grandkids while being hailed as heroes despite never being in any danger themselves. Nice gig, huh? I am sure you can see why they want it to last.

Speaking of which.

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Ukraine is very serious about this offensive into Russia proper. Do they think it will relieve pressure at the other fronts, or do they hope they can take some Russian town so they are in a better position when they surrender?
It's also funny how MSM is spinning this as Russian rebels who are "liberating" them from ebil P*tler's tyranny. Like, nigga, they just spent the last 2 years kvetching about the DPR being hecking Russian bots and now they are trying to create their own kosher version? Jewish tricks are so blatant.
I doubt its about any taken land, there's no world in which they can seize a town in Russia, then use it as a negotiating stick of any meaningful nature in a surrender - This isn't a videogame with "Warscore" to achieve aims, they'd just be told that they're giving back the Russian town, or Russia walks from the table and takes it back.

If it was wildly successful, it could have relieved pressure on other fronts for a while, but all it probably does is harden Russian resolve. While I really hate the idea of describing this as any sort of "Terror" attack, it really is just a case of striking at a civilian target to try and demoralize your enemy, which doesn't really get you far against Russians.

My position on this, especially with the MSM spins, is that this is supposed to be PR. Again, the average person is war ignorant - The idea of multiple disparate fronts and advances across various lines is outside of the average persons scope of vision for the war - In their heads, it goes one way, or the other. So when there's people fighting on Russian land, that means Ukraine is winning because they're not fighting in Ukraine anymore, otherwise they wouldn't be in Russia. People are really stupid about conflict and really don't understand how big this, or Ukraine, really is.

it seems ever since the coooonter offensyiv its all about optics for the government.
That really is what they got left. If you want to keep up recruitment rates, foreign support etc, you need wins to talk about, or at least force your enemy into as many Pyrrhic Victories as you can. Nobody wants to jump in to help the losing side too hard, so mask the fact your losing to most of the public as much as you can.

There is no plan as to what they're buying time for, there's no master plan or secret weapon, more of just "Hold out for anything that might happen."
 
If it was wildly successful, it could have relieved pressure on other fronts for a while, but all it probably does is harden Russian resolve. While I really hate the idea of describing this as any sort of "Terror" attack, it really is just a case of striking at a civilian target to try and demoralize your enemy, which doesn't really get you far against Russians.

It wouldn't though Russia hasn't left it's military districts undefended or drained of resources.

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Ivanivkse is about to fall. Whenever the FABs are focused on one front, it means that Russian progress there will just quicken and another Ukrainian stronghold will fall. Ukrainian AD has been mauled badly this past set of weeks and the U.S. hasn't done anything to resolve this huge issue for the AFU.

Even the strongest Ukrainian fortifications can't resist this unrelenting bombardment.
 
Ivanivkse is about to fall. Whenever the FABs are focused on one front, it means that Russian progress there will just quicken and another Ukrainian stronghold will fall. Ukrainian AD has been mauled badly this past set of weeks and the U.S. hasn't done anything to resolve this huge issue for the AFU.

Even the strongest Ukrainian fortifications can't resist this unrelenting bombardment.
The restructuring of UAV chains of command. the introduction of more and more shock groups based largely on how Wagner Shock troops worked. the rapid introduction of hunter killer Iskander teams. and as you have noted, the unprecedented level of communication between the ground forces and the air wing. a art the soviets and later russians had 0 interest in.
 
The restructuring of UAV chains of command. the introduction of more and more shock groups based largely on how Wagner Shock troops worked. the rapid introduction of hunter killer Iskander teams. and as you have noted, the unprecedented level of communication between the ground forces and the air wing. a art the soviets and later russians had 0 interest in.
Actual conflict is the great innovator. All of the USSR doctrine around how to use air that the Russians inherited got binned pretty quickly in favor of a solution that seems to be working wonders. Same goes for all the other use cases - Turns out the higher officer corp is a lot more interested in immediately effective strategies over thinktank ideas for how to fight, when getting it wrong is gonna get them killed personally.

It wouldn't though Russia hasn't left it's military districts undefended or drained of resources.

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I've never seen someone completely fuck up a quote like that such as to attribute it to a rando post a day in the past, impressive.

As for the balloon fakery, I find that a bit hard to believe. Not that I think Ukraines been honest about its supposed rash of air kills, but rather that balloon decoys to fake air kills is just cartoon level villain stuff.
 
I'm sure there's a totally legit strategic reason for bragging about this
So whilst they're sending soldiers to be doomed in Kursk and Belgorod and have failed spectacularly, they need to display another ownage of Putler. Pretty much everyone knows Putin will win the elections, so this isn't anything more than a desperate attempt to win over western trust. Still amused at the "There are no elections and democracy there anyway". Huh, like the country you yourselves are living in?
 
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