Margaret Pless / idlediletante / Stan - Official Kiwi Farms Advertiser and Enthusiast Who Has Proudly Eaten Ass. Now Posting Her Tits to Own the Troons!

[Stan]

Ok then why did you refer to yourself as a Jew here?

Another Jew implies that you see yourself as one. You also tried to come off as an expert on Hasidim in that thread. Which one is it?

Because the wehraboos and poltards tend to label me as one. And I hate to correct people giving me unwarranted compliments.

I can see that you and MM are malding because I know your religion, practiced it, and still admire it. This is silly; did you think the beit Midrash was a secret clubhouse?

Is DEI an immutable fact of the universe? Because the entire concept seems political to me. And many institutions have diversity pledges or policies. DEI is a left-wing political belief. By institutionalizing it you’re implicitly excluding those who disagree.

Where I live we have this concept in the law called at-will employment. It means that you, the worker (pleb lol) or your employer can quit/terminate you for any reason or none at all. The only exceptions are if you’re being fired for being a part of a protected class. Political beliefs are not a protected class, so you can get canned for being too nuts about them.

Don’t ask don’t tell is back, baby. (But I can talk about my impassioned progressive beliefs all I want)

I actually avoid talking politics at work. I think most people do this.

I'm not cheering harm to men in general, or white men in general. It sucks to experience both casual and formal sexism (or some other -ism) - especially when it messes with coin or means objective merit isn't recognized or is assumed away. I haven't particularly enjoyed those experiences. The people who will do well are the people who work hard as fuck and stand out for it. Yeah, it's hard. And yes, it feels unfair when there is or seems to be a cap on how many people who look like you get picked.

You don’t need to coddle them. They’re malingering.

If you keep hammering someone, at a certain point they might not have that extra slice of cake, or that glass of wine.

There’s a body of research that directly contradicts this. Fat shaming tends to encourage fat people to binge and feel they have less control of their eating. Fuck. I said this before, why am I repeating myself?

It's sort of a shitty thing to do, sure, it's even worse for folks to act like they are doing a service, but just calling a fat person a fat person adds to the chorus really. Now the qualifier of "acceptable" is something else entirely. I think it should be okay to do a bit more shaming, but that's an entirely different discussion.

If Kiwi Farms had a political platform, “the right to be a seething cunt” would be a center plank.

Now, I'll openly admit no one here is doing it to help you, they are mostly mocking you, sort of like you are openly trying to mock us.

It’s not exactly a fair fight, as none of you are man enough to show your face but love to look at mine. So I do still think I’m different and somewhat morally better than Kiwi Farmers, because they’re generally hateful little keyboard warriors who wouldn’t keep posting if their names and photos were live here.

Here’s a thought experiment: Also you Kiwi Farmers are plebs, you’re poor. Have you tried not being poor? Maybe if I plebshame you a little more you’ll stop wasting your money on avo toast and vodka and vidya. It’s for your own good, you know. Being poor is bad for you! Stop being poor. Be ashamed you are poor. Nice clothes, shame you had to get em from the Goodwill, because you’re poor. It is a fact universally acknowledged that poor people have no self control, never bathe, and blow $5000 annually on lotto tickets. Poor people are subhuman, they just drain our govt benefits and provide nothing to society. Do you really need to buy that, pleb? You’ re already how many tens of thousands of dollars in debt?

…does that make you want to start saving more money? No? Then maybe you can reconsider the ethics of fat shaming.

Ps I hope you didn’t take that personally, I’m trying to illustrate a point. Not actually trying to plebshame you.

Personally, I have tried to keep myself from being an asshole to you, that doesn't serve my purpose anymore.

Whatever you want I guess. I did appreciate you being civil to me instead of weening. I will still tag you in to my recipe posts, if I ever get time to do them.

 

[Begemot]

@Stan I'm sorry, you are suffering from a misapprension regarding your previous faith. The only true Jews are Black Israelites like me, though, anyone else is an Edomite, descendants of those who converted under the Herodian dynasty. You need to become a concubine to your nearest Black Israelite in order to become a true Noahide believer.

Luckily I'm here and willing to let you seduce me....

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Change those shitty diapers, you strong stay at home mother.

Bragging about wealth you didn't earn is meaningless, Marge. You're incapable of earning at that level. Generational wealth reflects well on your antecedents, not on you. You were set up to succeed and you didn't, at all.

You're not a Jew so I don't know why you'd think I'm malding, tourist.

 

[Shidoen]

@Stan if you poorshame me some more I’ll have to keep some old, rich woman company. You wouldn’t want my brand of annoyance towards another woman do you?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Most are American; most are very conservative. As for aligning to your specific opinions, I couldn't say. They are likely (I speculate) more pragmatic in their day-to-day views/life than what you've expressed here. In their hearts-of-hearts, who knows.

That's just not true.
Americans like you are deeply, deeply confused about ideology and politics. You think that wealth spreading and nationalizing are some extreme left positions, and that the far right is fiscally conservative. You think that people that argue for Freedom and Liberty, like freedom of association and speech are often far right. You think collectivism is far left.

And yes "women/poc" (lumped together as a headline data point, which says something) are making gains. But not to worry: model projections indicate it will be 2060 before white men are only represented at their population percentage (well, their population percentage today, which will also be lower then, so still ahead of the game). In one sense, that makes some sense; on the other hand, the rapidity of the shift is somewhat startling.

So in which way are men not entitled to fight back as hard as they can to maintain their social, economic status? Why the hell should white Europeans give up ANYTHING?
I consider white European Americans utterly mentally deficient for not struggling for power.
So you see, there are disagreements on what should be done and how, but also on definitions.
Libertarians and conservatives are all various splinter groups from liberalism. They literally obsess about individual freedoms and being left alone, they consider the state evil.
They are liberals in each and every way that it is classically understood. Sure, not progressive, but liberal nonetheless.
The actual right is always collectivist and has a core of elites or an "elite" demographic. It is preoccupied by the welfare of the nation and its rebirth, i.e. palingenetic nationalism. Markets are ALWAYS to be subordinated to the state and capitalism exists not on its own, but as means to make the state and its citizens richer and better. Excessive capital accumulation means corrupting the body of the state and creating unrest.
And the same can be said about rebellious minorities that demand all sorts of stuff, when they should be treated as mere guests, always foreigners.
The libertarian/conservative men you mention are worthless. They have no skin in the game, and just want money. That itself is quite gross and should be a behavior that is disincentivized. Material benefits are important, but the welfare of the collective will forever be above its individual components. There is simply no other way to do this, you know, bundle of sticks strong together, single stick breaks easy.

 

[Shidoen]

I wouldn’t care if more women or colored get hired on, as long as they do their job right. Too bad that’s mostly not the case.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Just nod your head and smile

If I did that like with the most resent Margarete post people would think I'm some kid on the short bus banging my head on the seat with how often they type stupid shit.

Whatever you want I guess. I did appreciate you being civil to me instead of weening. I will still tag you in to my recipe posts, if I ever get time to do them.

I don't get why you insist on people being civil towards you when you weren't civil towards them first. What the fuck did you parents teach you? You've done fuck all to earn a persons respect here for them to ever be civil towards you nor has your personality shown them that you're a civil person. Fix your attitude and personality and that may change.

 

[Stan]

@Stan I'm sorry, you are suffering from a misapprension regarding your previous faith. The only true Jews are Black Israelites like me, though, anyone else is an Edomite, descendants of those who converted under the Herodian dynasty. You need to become a concubine to your nearest Black Israelite in order to become a true Noahide believer.

Luckily I'm here and willing to let you seduce me....

Yes whatever you say queen Sheba.

So in which way are men not entitled to fight back as hard as they can to maintain their social, economic status? Why the hell should white Europeans give up ANYTHING?

I'm not sure I agree the immigrants of your country are degrading the social and economic status of the current citizenry by opening kebab shops and working at filling stations and other low-skill service jobs; but even if that were the case I thought you believed in competition, survival of the fittest and all that. If Nigerians are willing to do the same job for less, and your solution is to prevent Nigerians from getting jobs in your town, that's basically labor protectionism for whites. and if you get mad when other classes of people get a handicap at your expense, you get all salty. So shouldn't it be fair that the whites don't get handicaps?

But frankly I think you think about this whole issue as a zero-sum game when it isn't. An economy can grow, as can a country. So it isn't as if every job taken over by an immigrant is a job taken from a European. The Rewe Mart can hire more people if necessary, and it turns out immigrants also eat food and buy things, creating demand for stuff and services. More housing can be built, more jobs created, and so on. It's why this Great Replacement stuff always smacks of moid insecurity to me.

Now, whether or not it's sustainable for developed economies in Europe to get their fix for growth by importing people from elsewhere, that is another problem. But it seems to me your concern is more to do with racial and national identity than concern for a spiraling trade deficit or excessive gov't spending (I figure you care if the spending is on black ppl, or Muslims, but you're probably OK with the country allocating some gov't spending to things you use and like, like sidewalks and parks etc.)

Change those shitty diapers, you strong stay at home mother.

Bragging about wealth you didn't earn is meaningless, Marge. You're incapable of earning at that level. Generational wealth reflects well on your antecedents, not on you. You were set up to succeed and you didn't, at all.

You're not a Jew so I don't know why you'd think I'm malding, tourist.

MM, money is fungible. It doesn't matter whether I earn it by working, if I earn it by passive income on assets that were entrusted to me, or if I sell something valuable in exchange. It all spends the same, and what power I control through wealth is undiminished even if it's acquired passively. Most wealthy people are at least partly the result of generational wealth. Capital accrues capital, like a snowball rolling down a hill. The rich become richer, and plebs like you keep staying poor.

And the coping and seething you do is evident. It's kind of amusing when you confidently tell me I've failed, didn't succeed, my life is a failure, etc. when this is so self-evidently untrue. It's like listening to you expound on how the sky is green and airplanes are fake news. You're so deep in denial I hope you have travel visas to Egypt.

@Stan if you poorshame me some more I’ll have to keep some old, rich woman company. You wouldn’t want my brand of annoyance towards another woman do you?

I only plebshame the plebs who deserve it, heartsweet. IRL I am really pretty sympathetic to the poor, not just in terms of feeling bad for them and ashamed that this country can't do better (why are any Americans going hungry when we produce such a stupendous surplus of food?), but in terms of using my money to do something about it (I compulsively buy 3-6 items at the grocery to put in the food bank bin every time I go to the store, donate monthly to the food bank as well, and the animal shelter too.) I even wrote this unpublished essay 12 months ago [attached] about why it's morally imperative to give alms to the poor.

Is that going to fix the whole world? No, probably not, but that's the conundrum of philanthropy.

 

[The Ugly One]

What the fuck did you parents teach you?

Her parents taught her that inheriting wealth makes you better than others, since that's how they got to their station in life.

 

[Stan]

Her parents taught her that inheriting wealth makes you better than others, since that's how they got to their station in life.

Stay salty my friend

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Marge keeps saying how angry we are, when she has an ignore list as large as her ass. And if that weren't enough, she seek out posts from people on her ignore list to seethe over. You're the lolcow, Marge, and this is your thread. You're far too smug considering that.

 

[Shidoen]

I only plebshame the plebs who deserve it, heartsweet. IRL I am really pretty sympathetic to the poor, not just in terms of feeling bad for them and ashamed that this country can't do better (why are any Americans going hungry when we produce such a stupendous surplus of food?), but in terms of using my money to do something about it (I compulsively buy 3-6 items at the grocery to put in the food bank bin every time I go to the store, donate monthly to the food bank as well, and the animal shelter too.) I even wrote this unpublished essay 12 months ago [attached] about why it's morally imperative to give alms to the poor.

Is that going to fix the whole world? No, probably not, but that's the conundrum of philanthropy.

So gloating about your wealth doesn’t make me believe you do much for the poor. At least not out of legitimate concern.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Her parents taught her that inheriting wealth makes you better than others, since that's how they got to their station in life.

That's a sad way to live. I couldn't imagine raising my children to be as worthless as her. It's no wonder she thinks being a proper parent is "white trash". Should have just thrown her down a storm drain like Romans used to instead letting her grow up to be this.

 

[AgendaPoster]

but even if that were the case I thought you believed in competition, survival of the fittest and all that. If Nigerians are willing to do the same job for less, and your solution is to prevent Nigerians from getting jobs in your town, that's basically labor protectionism for whites.

You misunderstood, which is expected.
I believe in ethnic nation states and can't stand large, multicultural empires, so that means that small fish Ukraine must band together with smaller states to fight back the big, aggressive Russian fish.
Competition is good, but only as a means to hone and perfect your tribe, not as general praxis.
Foreigners are to be excluded from anything important.

But it seems to me your concern is more to do with racial and national identity than concern for a spiraling trade deficit or excessive gov't spending (I figure you care if the spending is on black ppl, or Muslims, but you're probably OK with the country allocating some gov't spending to things you use and like, like sidewalks and parks etc.

Indeed. You probably misunderstand my reasons though. Immigration is destabilizing. We are still segregating from the Rroma (oh, the stories I could tell you). We had rather severe conflicts with the Hungarian minority which nearly ended in lynchings just 2-3 decades ago, and tensions remain rather high still.
The country is always supposed to be defined by a majority ethnic group. It's not purely biological. For example I'm like half German/Hungarian, but that's irrelevant as I don't speak their languages well at all and strongly identify with Romanian history and its struggles to shake off imperial powers like Austria-Hungary. Most Hungarians identify with the Kingdom of Hungary and Austria-Hungary instead, and consider the Romanian state as an occupier of lands that were once theirs.
So you can see how biology is just one factor in many.
Also, it's not a matter of superiority, but ideology.
This is why I strongly support the creation of a Palestinian state according to the UN mandate, even though most Jews look far whiter and have significant European admixture.
And that is why I also strongly support leaving the Sentinelese and the Amazonian tribes alone, and not attempt to modernize them, even though they're brown savages basically.
Being a white gaijin in Japan and meddling in their shit is equally offensive to me as being a Jew or Muslim in Romania and demanding respect or whatever privileges, having Politics of Memory and the sort.
Fuck right off my land, either you humble yourself as a guest, or we should deport your ass.

Capital accrues capital, like a snowball rolling down a hill. The rich become richer, and plebs like you keep staying poor

I know you're baiting and shitposting, but I am not surprised to see a WASP progressive eventually finding out their pulyoselfbythebootstraps capitalist side.

 

[AnOminous]

This is why I strongly support the creation of a Palestinian state according to the UN mandate, even though most Jews look far whiter and have significant European admixture.

What is so nuts about this situation is the majority of people on both sides realize only a solution ending in two states is ever going to be stable but the leadership of both sides has a perverse incentive to continue scuttling any such resolution whenever it appears even to be feasible.

And that is why I also strongly support leaving the Sentinelese and the Amazonian tribes alone, and not attempt to modernize them, even though they're brown savages basically.

They're almost the human version of an endangered species. Their culture, such as it is, has isolationism as such an intrinsic part of it that mere contact would be literal genocide. The people would still exist, but they would no longer be Sentinelese. That culture would essentially cease to exist within a lifetime or less.

 

[Sammich]

Whatever you want I guess. I did appreciate you being civil to me instead of weening. I will still tag you in to my recipe posts, if I ever get time to do them.

I appreciate that, and my reason is it does no good to keep hammering away on someone when it doesn't land. And I did feel bad for talking about your kid, they didn't need to be brought into some half hearted internet slap fight. It's about ethics in online shitposting heh

 

[The Ugly One]

That's a sad way to live. I couldn't imagine raising my children to be as worthless as her. It's no wonder she thinks being a proper parent is "white trash". Should have just thrown her down a storm drain like Romans used to instead letting her grow up to be this.

She reminds me of lesser nobility in Jane Austen books/movies whining that they're too poor to afford enough servants to live the idle lives they feel entitled to. The servants, of course, were born to work their fingers to the bone. We're supposed to feel sorry for the rich lady who's struggling to find a sufficiently rich and handsome baron to marry.

Except she's an angry retard, unlike the Mary Sues in Austen's works, who are always clever, sweet, and talented.

 

[Marble Jack]

TIL not wanting to have shitty OpSec means your opinions are somehow null and void. This is the most boomer fucking take in the history of the Internet.

 

[Sammich]

TIL not wanting to have shitty OpSec means your opinions are somehow null and void. This is the most boomer fucking take in the history of the Internet.

That's the standard take of a ton of people, completely disregarding that if you have opinions that different from norm it's standard issue to get you fired, debanked and sued into bankruptcy. It's perfectly fine to put your name beside HR approved opinions.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

I'm not sure I agree the immigrants of your country are degrading the social and economic status of the current citizenry by opening kebab shops and working at filling stations and other low-skill service jobs; but even if that were the case I thought you believed in competition, survival of the fittest and all that.

I marvel that someone could mischaracterize Agenda Poster's position so flagrantly.

If Nigerians are willing to do the same job for less, and your solution is to prevent Nigerians from getting jobs in your town, that's basically labor protectionism for whites. and if you get mad when other classes of people get a handicap at your expense, you get all salty. So shouldn't it be fair that the whites don't get handicaps?

Yes, protectionism for the people who rightly belong to and are a part of that nation, Volk, or civilization. That is the reason why collectives exist in the first place. The Japanese as one example are familiar with this concept--Japanese citizens born in Japan (who are Japanese by ancestry rather than being just born there as Jared Taylor war) are provided protections and benefits in Japan not available to outsiders. Non Europeans have no right to set foot in Europe. Moreover, not only are European people's not obligated to take them in, there is affirmative duty to expel them. If we ever get beyond this nonsense about democracy and human rights, whatever document arises should enshrine the people's inalienable right not to be subject to racial and national suicide.
Also, multicutluralism just does not work, absent tyrannical rule. Tito made it work in Yugoslavia for a few decades, but that was not exactly a free or open society. The Soviet Union lasted a few decades. Rome in its latter phases but again not really for the faint of heart. Peter Brimelow's book Alien Nation sets forth how this is so much better than I ever could

It’s not exactly a fair fight, as none of you are man enough to show your face but love to look at mine.

You have no one to blame but yourself.

Also you Kiwi Farmers are plebs, you’re poor.

Keep telling that to yourself. Some are undoubtedly poor or not as well off as you are, but you really do not know anything about anyone here except what people choose to volunteer. I find the crass class snobbery in eighties teen movies much more interesting--at least the obnoxious rich kids were good looking and had style. In any case, this is a mask off moment for you and those of your ilk who tout luxury beliefs. By all means please continue.

I can see that you and MM are malding because I know your religion, practiced it, and still admire it.

More than one person claiming to be Jewish (persuasively so) says you don't know jack shit about Judaism. I take their word for it. See an admission whereby you admit that you longed to be Jewish but realized you could not.

Yeah, those are born Jews. The kind who loathe their birthright and wish they could become Gentiles. A convert, like I was trying to be, can't break the law like that without jeopardizing their identity as True and Honest Jews. I actually used to really resent the Jews who disregarded their born-Jewishness, because they despised something I really wanted and could never achieve.

HA! HA!

I actually avoid talking politics at work. I think most people do this.

Would be a shame if or when they catch wind of this thread you stupidly keep bumping to the top.