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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 332 31.8%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 528 50.5%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 185 17.7%

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They attract audiences because of how they behave on the show and people want to see if they're like that irl. (they usually are)
Its safe to assume that the contestants either know they cant keep up a facade for as long as they'll be in, or they try and fail hard enough to act like larger asshats for their stay (airsoftfatty)
I'm sure it was torturous to be a woman on the show
Imagine being watched for long hours in the day by loads of men who have never seen or interacted with a woman when they werent in a professional environment or putting on a show to promote their OF, It must be like a field trip for them :story:
 
Betty has weird stalkers because she posts porn of herself and photos of herself slashing her wrists not because she did a bit on fishtank. She brought it on herself. When you're posting piss porn of yourself for the world to see you are going to attract freaks.
Uh I don't disagree about the nudes and the audience it draws, but that is an entirely different thing from what she was bringing up regarding the fishtank production crew and habits. Most people were surprised at how quickly the whole kayfabe hatred of this or that fish evaporated the moment S2 ended, this wasn't the case for S1 at all, Letty and Betty had frothing tier lunatics screwing with them and I believe its a large part why Letty just gave up streaming, though admittedly she was always regarded as a lazy neet, which of course is part of her charm.

I admit I expected Trish and particularly Tayleigh to be subject to the same level of lunacy from the fans since she was regarded as the season's villain, the TTS towards the last week was insanely hostile to the point she couldn't even go into the goon cave and have a short chat with TTS without machine gun fire hatred being blasted at her. That Tay ended up with an audience that adores her, is both very protective and supportive of her is one of the biggest twists I've ever encountered, even Tay admitted she thought she was going to get blasted with hostility when she left the show. I think a lot of it has to do with the pivot to "hell house" leading into the timeframe Jimmy got kicked and the Taymaker, the audience seems to have shifted towards viewing production as the problem which allowed friend tank to prevail in the post season.
 
In Betty's case, she wasn't responsible for the audience she cultivated during the show. She's most definitely responsible for the audience she has now. I'm sure it was torturous to be a woman on the show, but that doesn't give you the green light to piss in kids pools.
She showed her panties on demand, flashed her tits and "deep throated" the confessional cam. She's responsible for everything she gets.
 
She showed her panties on demand, flashed her tits and "deep throated" the confessional cam. She's responsible for everything she gets.
This post is what happens when you follow Bad Ideas so much that you start mimicking his logic.
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I'm kinda surprised and delighted that Jimmy has been weirdly chill since he left Fishtank. This dude clearly had "future lolcow" written over him as soon as he left, but he's more of the based retard type.
He wasn't initially, he was all over the fucking place and ranting on Twitter spaces. You can basically time his course correction to the moment Tay left the tank and did her first stream where she said wanted to hang with Jimmy but she wasn't gonna deal with 'Jimmy Drama." He more or less instantly stopped talking smack about the other fish and went into a chill mode ever since, the only group he shits on now is production and I don't think anyone really cares about that so it wont mess with friend tank.
 
When he shits on production it's usually a little bit copey in logic (the root reason he thinks these things is he is salty) but I can't help but agree with most of his basic points (he wasn't discussing this recently I'm just aggregating what I've heard him say)
  • Things like the soytax stop people from behaving naturally
  • By censoring TTS so much and sending so many basement TTS they were interfering with the will of the audience
  • Very often the basement interfered with the will of the audience in other ways
  • Rule changes (when they reset everyone's chips because he had 4k of them, when they didn't enforce fishtoys to everyone) are shit
  • Production wanted the fish to be funny but smothered them creatively most of the time
  • He didn't get asked to do the initiative group stuff and that leaves him assuming that for a very long time the deck was stacked against him and there was nothing he could do to have won
  • He warned them to do something other than trigger him to the point of violence because (presumably) they didn't want him to hurt anyone and they didn't take that seriously (he should have self control, obviously, but the second best thing is to tell people when you want to be called off just short of losing control I guess)
Also his nana is in hospice apparently so that's why Downey has been down lately
 
When he shits on production it's usually a little bit copey in logic (the root reason he thinks these things is he is salty) but I can't help but agree with most of his basic points (he wasn't discussing this recently I'm just aggregating what I've heard him say)
  • Things like the soytax stop people from behaving naturally
  • By censoring TTS so much and sending so many basement TTS they were interfering with the will of the audience
  • Very often the basement interfered with the will of the audience in other ways
  • Rule changes (when they reset everyone's chips because he had 4k of them, when they didn't enforce fishtoys to everyone) are shit
  • Production wanted the fish to be funny but smothered them creatively most of the time
  • He didn't get asked to do the initiative group stuff and that leaves him assuming that for a very long time the deck was stacked against him and there was nothing he could do to have won
  • He warned them to do something other than trigger him to the point of violence because (presumably) they didn't want him to hurt anyone and they didn't take that seriously (he should have self control, obviously, but the second best thing is to tell people when you want to be called off just short of losing control I guess)
Also his nana is in hospice apparently so that's why Downey has been down lately

He isn't wrong about the majority of that. I really don't think they were targeting him more than anyone else though. They had targeted harassment for basically everyone but Shinji, Jimmy is just too mentally unwell to handle it.
 
He isn't wrong about the majority of that. I really don't think they were targeting him more than anyone else though. They had targeted harassment for basically everyone but Shinji, Jimmy is just too mentally unwell to handle it.
I think a lot of the time he discounts the TJ/Taylor thing as not being targeting for TJ and boxing the judge as not being targeting for TJ because his experience of those things was TJ doing them to himself (catching feelings on set, ringing the bell). Which is kind of fair but if you slam your dick in a car door on purpose on set that's still taking your share of the punishment.
 
I think Jimmy was targeted by production every single time he didn't need his buttons pushed and when that happened they let off of others. Might be misremembering but I think production always dogpiled one at a time but were up to switch if something happened. Occasionally they'd send mean TTS to multiple rooms to bully people who were trying to relax but that's about it.

I never liked Jimmy as much as others seem to, but he's a funny/quirky guy whether you're laughing with him or at him and I agree with him that production fumbled a lot of stuff just for the sake of being mean to him. They absolutely could have prevented the mallet fiasco if they didn't keep pressing into him the way they did and that isn't excusing Jimmy, it's lumping in production as well.
 
>Joins Kiwi Farms almost a year ago
>Only post on the entire website is made almost a year later and is a nonsensical two letter response that has nothing to do with what was replied to

What the FUCK was meant by this?
Either he is a fuck up or the most elaborate shitposter I’ve scene. He is following only one guy, he as only this post here and it probably a typo and he liked 2 inconsequential posts about “it was a good thing this thread is started”
 
They absolutely could have prevented the mallet fiasco if they didn't keep pressing into him the way they did and that isn't excusing Jimmy, it's lumping in production as well.
While I don't at all support Jimmy attacking small women I'm glad they didn't coddle Jimmy the mallet freakout is one of the most clipped moments from the show and one of the few to break 100k views on Youtube. Easily top 3 memorable moments of the season probably number 1. Also one of the few organic high energy moments.
 
While I don't at all support Jimmy attacking small women I'm glad they didn't coddle Jimmy the mallet freakout is one of the most clipped moments from the show and one of the few to break 100k views on Youtube. Easily top 3 memorable moments of the season probably number 1. Also one of the few organic high energy moments.
I get that it's highly clipped and talked about but the show should not be deliberately pushing people to that level. That's playing with fire and they are lucky it was relatively inconsequential for Abi. That said, I think what they saw was how clipped it was and walked away thinking they need more of that without considering potential negatives.
It wasn't even a lack of coddling, Jet/Ben just didn't do the basic task of preventing him from blowing up as he was on a short fuse due to dogpiling. You have to balance things and clearly wiggers can't.
 
I get that it's highly clipped and talked about but the show should not be deliberately pushing people to that level. That's playing with fire and they are lucky it was relatively inconsequential for Abi. That said, I think what they saw was how clipped it was and walked away thinking they need more of that without considering potential negatives.
It wasn't even a lack of coddling, Jet/Ben just didn't do the basic task of preventing him from blowing up as he was on a short fuse due to dogpiling. You have to balance things and clearly wiggers can't.
Yeah one of the things Jet talked about regarding Frank is that they can let the fish get physical with him because he's a friend of the show and not a "legal eagle."

Metaphorically, they yanked all the anal beads out of the show like a ripcord with that one. The only reason Abi hasn't tried to squeeze Jimmy for money is she must know he's not good for it. You couldn't reasonably make Jet take legal responsibility for Jimmy, but I could easily see her being able to pester him into a settlement anyway. Being safe from that kind of risk should be a deterrent. Even Sam was smart enough to say that Jet and everyone shouldn't take their eyes off Jimmy, but not smart enough to say, let's leave him the fuck alone and let him regroup, or abruptly eliminate him again and cut our losses before things get dangerous. It's not possible to claim that Jimmy's reaction to what they were doing to him came as a surprise or that they weren't waiting for it.

They skinned the sheep by having an assault just barely after the halfway point. When Damiel threw Letty's clothes out it was pretty fucked up but there was still lots of room to explore how much worse it could get. It's a lot like how Sam kept saying they should have waited to have TJ box the Judge at the end, because by doing it early they weren't pacing themselves. The whole show sprinted way too fast in the first half and I wouldn't even say I recommend coddling Jimmy, I just wouldn't have made a mad dash to having four finalists like that. They cut Jimmy before the timing was ripe and every event that came after looked wan and pale.

If you really think that Betty wouldn't have tried to burn down Sam's house if Mauro had gotten physical with her you're nuts. Really there's a button they could push on anyone that would be "too far," maybe not to the point of assault but to the point where a contestant would be equipped to break the show. If they pushed Vance x Letty too far, or if they were less careful about filtering Jeremy stuff, or if they had damaged Sylvia's whole wardrobe, or shaved Trisha without consent, or had Fatty do to Josie what he did to Trisha on Christmas, or let Frank keep getting physical with Tayleigh, or if Fatty makes physical contact with one of the girls, or if Brian and CK took an uglier turn etc etc etc

Everyone has a line and people can leave for stupid reasons (Frank kicking in the door to the bathroom while Mauro is pooping, Jon and Cole quiet quitting) but there's a point where it's not "coddling" to stop pushing someone, it's just pulling the emergency brake.

Frank is a magic exception for violence, but even he isn't a blank check, and if they get addicted to this kind of extreme footage, or if the audience comes to expect it, it's going to fuck them. 30 days of Jimmy being medium angry and leaving in a way that isn't a major legal liability is a better long-term plan than having a content blowout worse than the 2012 San Diego Fireworks, almost getting sued, and ending up with 21 days of near-nontent in a 42 day show.
 
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I get that it's highly clipped and talked about but the show should not be deliberately pushing people to that level. That's playing with fire and they are lucky it was relatively inconsequential for Abi. That said, I think what they saw was how clipped it was and walked away thinking they need more of that without considering potential negatives.
It’s the sacrifice of long term content for a short term boost. They did that a lot at that point in the show just because of how slow things were. Jimmy throwing a mallet at Abby was memorable and drew in a lot of viewers, but it lasted for at most like an hour before everyone moved one.

Same with Jimmy beating up TJ then quitting. Brings in viewers, peaks the show for a bit, then results in a collapse and a few days where nothing happens. It’s an incredibly risky strategy that usually doesn’t pay off and is done only out of desperation and ignorance by production.

If you put your foot on the gas too low for too long your car is going to suffer for it. You may go fast for a little while, but the overall payoff of such an action can actually harm the end goal. No different here.
 
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