Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Fascist Kirk]

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It was certainly more dramatically interesting to me when fewer people were openly mocking the Rippaverse. I usually try to avoid making content that echos the "mainstream majority" opinion. If I'm not saying something different from everyone else then what's the point in talking, ya know?



If Eric July didn't exist this week's episode would have been a dry 70 minutes on the new government definition of extremism and the Internet safety bill... That's not as funny.



The first one, kinda, but for me its more of an FNT hypocrisy type deal or whatever, but also don't be quick to rule out retarded as a possibilty.



Equally my videos have no effect on the Rippaverse.

Just want to elaborate on how big of an irrelevant faggot you have proven to be over time when it comes to comicsgate. if you died tomorrow in ro blox nothing of value was lost, nothing was missed. Communism is edgy, when your dad is a party leader... vocal fry speaking weirdo........

 

[Strix454]

At around the 4 hour mark tonight, Ethan finally fired the warning shot at Mike Baron over being associated with Rippaverse.

Ethan said the book and the character suck but the "creative team" is interesting. He wants Mike Baron to do well "but look at who you are surrounded with dude".

paul rivoche then launches into his religious thing rhetorically asking in the case of Mike Baron at what point does associating with satanists sully your own reputation. He says that people have to decide themselves between serving satanism and serving something else.
Rivoche also implied that those who work for Eric July are collaborating with evil strictly aimed at making wealth without any consideration of the future of the comics business. That somehow the satanic conspiracy is aiming to destroy all comics.

But of course while Eric July is a satanic threat to the world which no artist could work for, Rivoche has never personally had any problem working for major entertainment companies. God loves Warner Brothers. Its no doubt written in his bible. He only worked to create good by taking those warner paychecks while Mike Baron is a greedy devilspawn for working on an Eric July published comic.

 

[Fascist Kirk]

At around the 4 hour mark tonight, Ethan finally fired the warning shot at Mike Baron over being associated with Rippaverse.

Ethan said the book and the character suck but the "creative team" is interesting. He wants Mike Baron to do well "but look at who you are surrounded with dude".

paul rivoche then launches into his religious thing rhetorically asking in the case of Mike Baron at what point does associating with satanists sully your own reputation. He says that people have to decide themselves between serving satanism and serving something else.
Rivoche also implied that those who work for Eric July are collaborating with evil strictly aimed at making wealth without any consideration of the future of the comics business. That somehow the satanic conspiracy is aiming to destroy all comics.

But of course while Eric July is a satanic threat to the world which no artist could work for, Rivoche has never personally had any problem working for major entertainment companies. God loves Warner Brothers. Its no doubt written in his bible. He only worked to create good by taking those warner paychecks while Mike Baron is a greedy devilspawn for working on an Eric July published comic.

I tuned into the last 10 minutes some one on sounding like Robert kennedy jr, or suffering from west nile virus. Question the bump in viewers are they all like me hate watching? asking for a friend.........

 

[Grunka Lunka]

At around the 4 hour mark tonight, Ethan finally fired the warning shot at Mike Baron over being associated with Rippaverse.

Ethan said the book and the character suck but the "creative team" is interesting. He wants Mike Baron to do well "but look at who you are surrounded with dude".

paul rivoche then launches into his religious thing rhetorically asking in the case of Mike Baron at what point does associating with satanists sully your own reputation. He says that people have to decide themselves between serving satanism and serving something else.
Rivoche also implied that those who work for Eric July are collaborating with evil strictly aimed at making wealth without any consideration of the future of the comics business. That somehow the satanic conspiracy is aiming to destroy all comics.

But of course while Eric July is a satanic threat to the world which no artist could work for, Rivoche has never personally had any problem working for major entertainment companies. God loves Warner Brothers. Its no doubt written in his bible. He only worked to create good by taking those warner paychecks while Mike Baron is a greedy devilspawn for working on an Eric July published comic.

Hilarious. Baron is doing at least one other comic for Eric too. So I guess Baron is destined for hell.

I seriously hope EVS is just faking this. Otherwise the dude is getting extremely unhinged.

 

[Fascist Kirk]

Wiggle wiggle the Painter who gets subsadized by the VA for his Nicotine fits, is going to stream about war .............. developing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pzj2nYVsPg
Faggots like wiggle should goto ukraine and die for my tax dollars you sorry pos

war is hell I need nicotine to keep streaming for comicsgrape, I can't aford it, so give me nicorrette. for a painter contractor who makes his own hours a 12 hour day is hard i would agree, unless your sitting behind a desk painting 40k figures you pink fur suit, or Pajama's faggot pile of shit

Fobits running from loud noises, fuck you pay me wiggle the bitch
maybe wiggle is certified not a pdf, however
Wiggle is 100 Percent stolen Valor welfare wigger wiggle

 

[Olórin of Hype]

"Everything's changed. Men fall from the sky, the gods hurl thunderbolts, innocents die. That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel." -Alfred (BvS)
After watching some of the narrative streams over the past week, it occurs to me that what we're witnessing is: Powerlessness
Rippaverse and friends can't be stopped by Comicsgate. The best CG can do is act as a speedbump, but little more is possible. Even at the apex of it's power CG couldn't withstand the cumulative pull that FNT has commanded since 2022.

Is it irritating that Gary and his band of Friendtubers didn't confront Eric July over ISOM #1? Before #2 was completed? Yes. But I can say the same for many of the Kings books. Did no one notice that Shane Davis's Axcend character is being peed on?

Did no one think to tell Mandy that recontextualizing one of the most infamous serial killers, that deliberately targeted women, might be a bad idea? Then again Vestige 2 tried the same plotline but shifting the true identity of 'The Ripper' to the man that lead the investigation to find 'Jack The Ripper'. Will we soon see "From Boys To Men: The John Wayne Gacy Story", "Ted Bundy Saves Christmas", "Samuel Little vs The Martians"?
Then there was the living severed head sex that Jon Malin's Omega Storm closed with. A dedication to Gail Simone was juxtopposed to the head begging for death. It strikes me as creepy given that I can't find a time Jon Malin and Gail Simone worked together. Perhaps they were in the same office at some point? Thus, this dedication appears in the book, is to someone Jon Malin (to my knowledge) has never had a relationship with, friendly or otherwise. Consider how strange it would be if someone you didn't know, began dedicating comic book severed head sex to you...
I can't forgive these massive "Okay you're my friend, I won't question this." moments because they're not aesthetic choices. These are deliberate choices to evoke certain emotions and ideas. I am willing to accept that Gary didn't want to risk his friendship with Eric, but among professionals, someone should be able to say "Hey why did you ___?" without a veteran of the industry being upset by the critique. I would think that isn't too much to ask in current year.

 

[Grumpus]

because Rippaverse is making mad money, like stupid amounts of money and they want them. And in second place, Eric July refused to bend the knee and brand himself and his company as #comicsgate and that hurt EVS tremendously

All comes down to Ego, and EJ's constant string of success has left a gaping wound in it.

Liking the content of Rippaverse is irrelevant, he sells to his audience and they love it. What do they expect to happen, try and force people to change their tastes?

So that just leaves the bitter spiteful people in CG to nit-pick and bitch at whatever small issue they can. Apparently it's late coz it's still in winter of 2023 (which we are in now? Business world shit I suppose), now the artists have been fixing eachothers work? Oh now she's SJW coz women just be quite and obedient or something (which is true...), now it's satanic! Burn Rippaverse for Christ!!!

They hate EJ for his success, everything else is just a distraction at this point.

If that wasn't the case, the complaints would be consistent. Like Late books from @FROG and Vito being a nonce

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Yeah. You have to pick a lane. 1. Bad quality 2. can't take criticism 3. a threat to crowdfunding 4. moral religious panic crap 5. Eric is a SJW trojan horse

Those live action Transformers Bay movies for the most part are shitty, but many did well. Sometimes there's no accounting for taste. I can't think of any Comicsgate comic that you'd call 'high art' (ala Alan Moore quality), many aren't even good popcorn comics, and many certainly don't pass the 90s Christain purity moralizing test and then you have the ones that aren't out/are not coming out any time soon.

Moralizing about comics is a shitty tactic.

The people buying his product aren't going to be dissuaded by Frog. Frog's credibility is compromised. I actually remember along time ago on a stream Frog saying something to the effect of, if SJW comics was where the market was, that's what he'd produce. Well, July is producing, his Rippaverse, has its audience and no matter how much Frog cries about it, success is the best revenge.

 

[Arkenas Einbrecht]

To my understanding, the comicsgate talking points resonated in the past because 1.) low effort writers and artists are on premiere IPs like superman and spiderman 2.) low effort writers are being given publishing spots on image or dark horse. What I don't understand is why go after rippaverse when they are doing their own IP and they built their own publishing infrastructure?

I remember EVS and co. espousing the same thing, if mags, ta-nehisi and others made their own IP it would've been fine and here is eric july doing that and he's getting flak..

If they were honest with themselves they'd correctly assess that Rippaverse is a largely inoffensive clone of generic 90s comics. Then they'd give proper constructive criticism on how to correct course. ...but they can't do that because their shit is 90s derivative as well.

Then there is the issue that even-keeled approaches don't make the cultists like Jaybummerfan and Joe Faggo froth at the mouth and fight for the cause. Ethan wants devotees not customers.

 

[Sewer Rat]

All comes down to Ego, and EJ's constant string of success has left a gaping wound in it.

Liking the content of Rippaverse is irrelevant, he sells to his audience and they love it. What do they expect to happen, try and force people to change their tastes?

So that just leaves the bitter spiteful people in CG to nit-pick and bitch at whatever small issue they can. Apparently it's late coz it's still in winter of 2023 (which we are in now? Business world shit I suppose), now the artists have been fixing eachothers work? Oh now she's SJW coz women just be quite and obedient or something (which is true...), now it's satanic! Burn Rippaverse for Christ!!!

They hate EJ for his success, everything else is just a distraction at this point.

If that wasn't the case, the complaints would be consistent. Like Late books from @FROG and Vito being a nonce

EVS is the worst propaganda possible against "the big corpo woke comics industry" as they call them. he is now becoming the parody that the media says "the anti woke" are:
- hates women just because they are in a comic (see current yaira)
- hates blacks unconditionally and will lie in order to alog them (see Eric July)
- hangs out with pedophiles and people with weird tendencies (see Vito, dogfucker)
- doesn't actually deliver a quality product or a product at all (see Cyberfrog scam)
- constantly whines about others, without doing anything for themselves (see his podcast)
and the list goes on...

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

It says a lot about EVS's contempt for the people that supported him that he isn't even hiding the fact that he spends his entire time drama-baiting and not working on his long overdue comics.

If I had supported his stuff I'd be pissed, but I suspect most of his zealous fans are just paying him money because he's their cult leader and the money is their tithe to him.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

"Ethan is standing up for decency"

yes EVS is such a decency warrior with his good friend Ethan Ralph. Paragons of virtue cleansing comics of eric july's evil.

 

[Sewer Rat]

It says a lot about EVS's contempt for the people that supported him that he isn't even hiding the fact that he spends his entire time drama-baiting and not working on his long overdue comics.

If I had supported his stuff I'd be pissed, but I suspect most of his zealous fans are just paying him money because he's their cult leader and the money is their tithe to him.

to rub salt on the wound, Eric July even wins at that, he is still able to do his podcast and videos because of two main reasons:
1. covers current media topics and advertises his comics, using it as fuel to both make people hate the mainstream comic industry AND promote his projects, + a little revenue money in superchats
2. he used his millions to actually start a legit company, hiring workers, famous writers and artist to work on the comics while he is more of an administrative guy.

the problem with most fundraiser campaigns is that the owner usually pockets the money for living expenses and hire people by comission, they almost never end up delivering and when they do, they just start a new campaign hoping for the best.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Your work ethic is never going to be as good when its other people's money fronting the risk.

 

[Strix454]

If I had supported his stuff I'd be pissed, but I suspect most of his zealous fans are just paying him money because he's their cult leader and the money is their tithe to him.

I think of it slightly differently. 90% of Ethan's customers are fans of the streams. They don't really care about the comics at all. The comics are just merchandise that people can buy to display their support for the show.

That is part of the reason why most CG campaigns are failures now. Only the big three tend to be able to sell their comics and the big three are all really streaming show guys rather than comics guys.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Ethan said the book and the character suck but the "creative team" is interesting. He wants Mike Baron to do well "but look at who you are surrounded with dude".

Rich coming from this guy:

who are the pedos (aside from Vito)

 

[Midwit]

How good are the sales figures for Yaira compared to mainstream comics?

What is the point of this.

Originally it was to grab the attention of horny teenagers who used to actually buy comics back in the day, but that market dried up so now it's people who haven't figured out that the market's moved on or just want to draw softcore porn, in CG's case I think it's a mix of both.

 

[Grumpus]

to rub salt on the wound, Eric July even wins at that, he is still able to do his podcast and videos because of two main reasons:
1. covers current media topics and advertises his comics, using it as fuel to both make people hate the mainstream comic industry AND promote his projects, + a little revenue money in superchats
2. he used his millions to actually start a legit company, hiring workers, famous writers and artist to work on the comics while he is more of an administrative guy.

the problem with most fundraiser campaigns is that the owner usually pockets the money for living expenses and hire people by comission, they almost never end up delivering and when they do, they just start a new campaign hoping for the best.

Could contribute to why @FROG is so bitter. It's a business structure that obviously works and maybe he is pissed he didn't think of doing it first

 

[Midwit]

maybe he is pissed he didn't think of doing it first

EJ's model requires doing actual work in addition to stream grifting, and Frog doesn't do that.

 

[Stupor Mario]

Could contribute to why @FROG is so bitter. It's a business structure that obviously works and maybe he is pissed he didn't think of doing it first

It's not that he didn't think of it, he's not the kind of person capable of creating a successful business strategy. EJ has been an entrepreneur for years. He creates things, but he's always been very interested in business. EVS is just a fat fraud who doesn't know how to do anything else besides draw comics, talk shit, lie, and drama farm.