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Oh, I see now I was late and this was discussed on a highlight no less. For some reason I thought it was just more prequel sperging.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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Well, unfortunately, Jake Loyd is your normal suburban kid (I'm assuming, I'm sorry if I'm wrong, America). I just don't understand why Anakin had to be a kid, and I still don't understand the comparison to Citizen Kane. Okay, Kane was a kid in the film, then an adolescent, then a young adult, a mature adult and almost an elder towards the end of the film. So what??
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It's known as "quasi-biographical" which is funny to think about with regard to fantasy. Then again, the Frieren anime has those elements too and they work well.
It's a Wonderful Life is another good example. In fact, the PT might have benefitted from having a narrator, like Obi-Wan is being retrospective about Anakin's fall and Vader's rise.
The attribution to Citizen Kane is that we were ideally taking a look at the life and legacy of the man who would eventually become Darth Vader. Keep in mind, part of the reason Kane's story worked was because he was a composite of several real-world people.
Many of Shakespeare's tragedies follow similar structures. A play, from beginning to end, unravels how good and honorable people eventually fall from their glory.
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Okay, but why must have been a boy and why must have he been a slave and we to have seen it? Waldo himself looks like only kept him and his mother as status symbols and wasn't particularly bad against them. Anakin doesn't even reflect on his enslavement.
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Because Lucas wanted him to start out as wide-eyed and innocent before his fall, I think the story would have worked better if Anakin's age was closer to Obi-Wan's since it would make Anakin's combatative nature and the "you were my brother" line far more natural but then you would need to compress the timeline because at some point he gets too old for the angry young man schtick.
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Just make him 14 or 16 like an anime character. He becomes Darth Vader when he's 25 or 28-ish.
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Ideally the young age thing allows us to see how things that happened to young Anakin influenced the man he would become.
The way Kane worked this angle was that child Kane is removed from his idyllic joys of sledding and thrown into a life of money, wealth, and politics.
One supposes Lucas was doing something similar by removing Anakin from his element and throwing him into the life of a Jedi.
Problem there is, why did we need an entire movie where Anakin's story only factors in incidentally to the main story about a planet undergoing tax disputes?
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In needs to establish the world and how it is different, but similar to the one in the Original trilogy. The political problem is different and that needs to be addressed. It isn't obvious what the end goal is of the villains, because they don't know themselves, hence the shadowy disguise of Palpatine. Arguably, the emperor is more important in the first film than Anakin.
Also, young people are very impressionable, they don't have to be children in order to be slightly indoctrinated. In the real world, the most powerful indoctrination happens after school, in college and university, when students are young adults.
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I understand that much. I just don't get why Anakin couldn't have otherwise been some kid on Naboo during this invasion. Least there he would be directly affected by the plot and have a stake in what was going on rather than "Oops, we found this kid. Oops, he stumbled inside a starship. Oops he blew up the blockade."
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He really wanted that Jesus allegory. He could have just been a Naboo expat. No reason to have him as low-status, either since Jesus wasn't.
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there's a lot of neat stuff Citizen Kane does but you don't have to put it in your space wizard movie
people tend to think that manger was because poor and not there was bullshit about everybody in town for tax season
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Amidst their proxy war with Nelson Peltz, Disney has been bragging that both Marvel and Lucasfilm have made a profit of $25 billion for Disney.
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Palpatine is considered the peak of the Sith because unlike the other Sith Lords, he seemed to have a functional brain and actually succeeded in pretty much completely wiping out the Jedi. The SWEU only seemed to know how to write pre- and post-Sidious Sith via boring-ass power level wankery. Not even going to get into the sheer retardation of how they tried to turn Revan, A CHARACTER WITH THE BARE MINIMUM OF BACKSTORY THAT IS QUITE LITERALLY JUST A CIPHER FOR THE REAL LIFE PLAYER TO OCCUPY, into some kind of actual character with retarded Gary Stu traits.
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What is their metric for determining this? Just taking into account how much was paid for Lucasfilm and Marvel Studios? Because both were successful within their inception, but now now.
Do production costs, marketing, merchandise, etc. play a part in these figures?
And if they were making bang for their buck, Marvel and Star Wars wouldn’t be scaling back their projects, and Disney wouldn’t be cutting staff constantly.
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Is there canonically no padding on the inside of clone/stormtrooper helmets? Here's what the inside of an ACH helmet looks like:
So I'm expected to believe that the Republic/Empire never thought to put a bit of padding in there? I guess the Empire cares as much about preventing TBI as the NFL twenty years ago.
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Marka Ragnos? Darth Bane? Tenebrae?
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He used trickery to do so, and at the end of the day, he failed. Also, Palpatine was hardly the first Sith to nearly wipe out the Jedi.
Hell, the Sith during the Legacy Era EU even said something along the lines of ''We will not repeat Palpatine's mistake. All Jedi must die!''
That, and the Sith laugh at him for losing power too soon. To them, it doesn't make sense that he who only ruled for decades should command those who ruled for centuries.
Except Revan annihilated the Mandalorians by using their tactics against them. Then later, he was running a successful war against the Jedi, convincing some to join him, corrupting them using the Mandalorian Wars to turn them to Sith, and then running Dark Jedi gulags that don't kill Jedi, but torture them and turn them into more Sith. Both Revan and Palpatine could've won if it wasn't for their traitorous apprentices, but Revan's Empire had more to offer thanks to them having more Dark Jedi.
Revan had the right idea Sith-wise with what to do with the Jedi. Order 66 was a colossal waste, when what Palpatine should've done, with his artificial control over both sides of the Clone Wars, was to corrupt the moral fiber of the Jedi, to prolong the war and make them see things from his point of view, and to isolate the Jedi Council and those Jedi who choose the Jedi Code over the Republic. So when Palpatine declares himself Emperor, he could get at least half the Jedi to defect alongside Anakin, and those Dark Jedi could help the Empire remain strong.
Imagine thousands of Dark Jedi serving the Empire and maintaining order and discipline among the Imperial ranks. The Rebels would stand no chance, especially since Dark Jedi are devastating in ground combat and are Newtype-level pilots in space combat. Hell, the idea was so good that the Empire tried to make Dark Jedi armies twice, and if it weren't for the quick-thinking and decisive actions of Kyle Katarn and Jaden Korr, the Empire would've regained their advantage and crushed the NR before the latter had time to spread its wings.
In terms of power, Revan and Sidious are probably equals. But in terms of strategy, tactics, and ideology, Revan has some edges over Palpatine, given that he was able to corrupt at least half the Jedi of his time, whereas Palpatine at most corrupted a handful, making his Empire fragile thanks to the lack of Dark Jedi/Sith leadership. Palpatine's one advantage over Revan was that he knew how to handle the politicians, and that's more due to his background and his experiences with Plagueis.
The problem with the Rule of Two Sith was that they were too fragile; you saw the movies-one paraplegic Jedi suddenly finding his balls destroyed them. Anakin vanquished Vader in his mind and then killed Palpatine with his hands. In a two-step move, the Sith went from ruling the galaxy to being extinct, whereas Revan's Sith were so durable that it took another Gary Stu Jedi to hunt them down and annihilate them. The Rule of Two Sith were annihilated by a paraplegic Jedi.
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The Acolyte teaser poster and release date has been released by Disney/LFL:
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This isn't real, is it? Because that looks more like a Saw poster than Star Wars.