Margaret Pless / idlediletante / Stan - Official Kiwi Farms Advertiser and Enthusiast Who Has Proudly Eaten Ass. Now Posting Her Tits to Own the Troons!

[Catch The Rainbow]

That doesn't sound too bad.
As long as you have something to smash and these forums to sperg on, I fail to see the issue.

It sucked. Mania by itself is hard because you get overconfident and dumb, add in hypersexuality and you lose the brakes that tell you to act appropriately. I lost a ton of money in crypto as well. Not a good time but therapy and new drugs fixed it.

 

[Stan]

The medication caused mania and hypersexuality lmao. It's pretty clear from what I wrote. That's the entire reason why I brought up medication, because I didn't have experience dealing with strong urges like those until I got hit with the sides from stimulants. I compared these strong urges I had until my meds were fixed to his homosexual urges and then expressed sympathy because I only had to deal with it for a few months and he has to deal with it life long. My dick worked fine lmao.

This is a very roundabout way of telling us you us meth.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

This is a very roundabout way of telling us you us meth.

Yeah stimulants are diet meth, specifically mixed amphetamine salts.

 

[Stan]

What did Ariel Toaff write about blood libel, the son of Eli Toaff chief Rabbi of Rome?

That is difficult for me to tell you, since as you probably know that dude's books are no longer in print. So I can't really speak to his claims in detail, but from what I can gather this nonfiction book is a historical investigation into the murder of Simon of Trent.
per WP:

The book was much criticized for providing material that anti-Semites might capitalize on, though Sergio Luzzatto praised his intellectual courage in reopening a dossier that had lain under a taboo.[1] While Toaff framed his analysis in hypothetical language, and phrased his speculations in conditional language, the reception of the book often tended to translate this caution, according to Hanna Johnson, into the indicative language of accepted fact.[1]

Toaff promised not to give in to pressure and defend his work "even if crucified".[9] In response to a statement from Italian Jewish leaders that consumption or use of blood is prohibited by Jewish law and tradition, Toaff stressed that he was not implicating all Jews, but only "a group of fundamentalist Jews [who] did not respect the biblical prohibition [against use of blood]."[10] However, Toaff did eventually pull his book from circulation. He clarified that in regard to the specific trial, dealing with Jews accused of killing Simon of Trent for ritual purposes at Passover, there was no relationship whatsoever between the so-called 'ritual of blood' and ritual infanticide. He denied that the Jews implicated were in any way involved in the murder of Simon.[11] On February 14, 2007, Toaff said in a statement that he ordered the Italian publisher of his book to freeze distribution of his book so that he can "re-edit the passages which comprised the basis of the distortions and falsehoods that have been published in the media."

A second edition of the book appeared in February, 2008. In an afterword to this edition in defense of his book, Toaff responded to his critics. To forestall possible misinterpretations, he said that the idea that Jews practiced ritual murder is a slanderous stereotype, and that ritual homicide or infanticide was a myth. That said, the possibility existed that:

certain criminal acts, disguised as crude rituals, were indeed committed by extremist groups or by individuals demented by religious mania and blinded by desire for revenge against those considered responsible for their people’s sorrows and tragedies.[4]

So it kind of suggests that there's a Jewish guy who understands nuance, who wrote this book, and there are wehraboos who don't understand nuance and take it as confirmation of the blood libel exists and the Jews were covering it up. Which would be a deliberate misread of the text, I think.

What does confuse me if Toaff's seemingly deliberate encouragement of the exact wrong audience for this book: i.e. wehraboo retards who want anti-Semitic talking points from a Real Jew (tm) for internet points. I think the author would or should know that the context of his research is going to be lost on average IQ neo-Nazis. Because I really don't think a guy who's researched this issue so carefully doesn't know exactly what he's doing when he says stuff like "I won't pull this book out of print even if they crucify me".

 

[Misericordia]

I'm disgusted with the intimation that Margaret has the capacity to be anywhere near as obnoxious as myself.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

"She misconstrued me by saying I'm a Holocaust Denier when I'm really a Holocaust Revisionist!" ---> another distinction without a meaningful difference IMO

In the 90s Auschwitz dropped their number from 4 million killed there to 1.5 million. 2.5 million is roughly half the 6 million Holocaust figure, and they dropped 2.5 from the count like it was a whoopsy-doodle. These questions demand answers, Marge. You sure accept a lot on faith. Except ironically, religion, or anything the Bible says about women.

Why do Jews get to bully Gentiles about the Holocaust? Armenians don't have the same license to berate people who know nothing about the Armenian Genocide and sort of don't care. Why do Jews get to demand others know and care about the Shoah? It's used as a political cudgel and prybar, and people aren't afraid to say no to Jewish bullying anymore.

Not really? This guy called me some pretty Jewish slurs. And (chass v'shalom) if there should be 21st century pogrom over here, the distinction between me and you will be pretty meaningless to the blood-and-soil Great Replacement guys.

In her recent interview with Taylor Lorenz, Chaya Raichik said immigrants outnumber births in the US, proving we are being replaced. As for right blood on the right soil, what you've said is "ethnostate," or "Israel for Jews," just using different words.

Depends on which conservatives. You're safe-ish with the GOP.

So we don't need you, paladin? Not that you could lift a sword anyway, strong stay at home mommy.

I do not think you are safe at all with the AfD/Golden Dawn people in Europe.

You're even more ignorant of European politics than you are of American politics.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

In the 90s Auschwitz dropped their number from 4 million killed there to 1.5 million. 2.5 million is roughly half the 6 million Holocaust figure, and they dropped 2.5 from the count like it was a whoopsy-doodle.

Because that was a Soviet figure that came from a Soviet investigation. When the Soviets took over Poland, they erected this plaque based off the Soviet figure of 4 million. Western Holocaust scholars rejected the Soviet number, coming to the figure of 1.1-1.5 million at Auschwitz and roughly 6 million in total. Once Poland stopped being communist, they fell in line with Western scholarship and replaced the plaque with the correct number. The Soviet number was independent of the Western calculation of 6 million.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Because that was a Soviet figure that came from a Soviet investigation. When the Soviets took over Poland, they erected this plaque based off the Soviet figure of 4 million. Western Holocaust scholars rejected the Soviet number, coming to the figure of 1.1-1.5 million at Auschwitz and roughly 6 million in total. Once Poland stopped being communist, they fell in line with Western scholarship and replaced the plaque with the correct number. The Soviet number was independent of the Western calculation of 6 million.

They waited until the 90s to realize a 2.5 million rounding error, that would've been corrected earlier if they exhumed graves and counted. I doubt the Holocaust is concerned with truths which disempower The Narrative. Sort of like every issue these days isn't hindered by facts or truth.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

They waited until the 90s to realize a 2.5 million rounding error, that would've been corrected earlier if they exhumed graves and counted. I doubt the Holocaust is concerned with truths which disempower The Narrative. Sort of like every issue these days isn't hindered by facts or truth.

The Auschwitz museum under the Soviets was a way to propagandize against the Nazis and the West, the actual facts were not important. Western scholarship had rejected the Soviet 4 million number for decades by the time the 90s rolled around but they couldn't do anything because Poland was communist. Once they got control of the sites they fixed it. Your problem here is with the faulty soviet investigation.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

"She misconstrued me by saying I'm a Holocaust Denier when I'm really a Holocaust Revisionist!" ---> another distinction without a meaningful difference IMO

Not sure what degree this is bad faith, intellectual dishonesty, and intellectaul sloppiness. The difference between things I have stated compared to how you wrongly characterize them is quite meaningful, and is even reflected in wrong-headed Holocaust denial laws. It is not illegal, as far as I know, to talk about Norman Finkelstein's Holocaust Industry in Germany. Beyond that, as I stated, the sort of thing you stated is a non-starter for most everyone and is just one reason why I do not preoccopy myself with it. It is wholly unnecessary to talk about how, to again quote Le Pen "The Holocaust was a mere detail in history" in a century where well over 100 hundred million people will killed.
You cannot or will not get such a fundamental distinction right, just as you have not with countless others. Bad-faith, mid-wit, both? Does not really matter. And to think you have the audacity to claim people are not playing nice with you.

In the 90s Auschwitz dropped their number from 4 million killed there to 1.5 million. 2.5 million is roughly half the 6 million Holocaust figure, and they dropped 2.5 from the count like it was a whoopsy-doodle.

That is Enron type "accounting."

 

[Gay Baby Jailer]

@Stan how do you feel about buying into every single one of Fareals retarded moid hate whopper lies uncritically? Sort of undermines your competency as a journalist no? Especially since she has now admitted that all of her replies were lies.

Care to explain how you came to believe that someones doctor husband somehow is losing all of his teeth, shitting on the floor while maintaining competency? I've worked in healthcare, I have relatives in healthcare; I have in my entire life never met a toothless doctor, nurse, or otherwise who shits on the floor. What kind of braindead deluded world do you live in?

You're like a fucking caricature with what you can be suckered into believing.

 

[Misericordia]

@Stan how do you feel about buying into every single one of Fareals retarded moid hate whopper lies uncritically?

Nobody doubted her stories until she claimed they were lies, and she might just be lying about that.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

The Auschwitz museum under the Soviets was a way to propagandize against the Nazis and the West, the actual facts were not important. Western scholarship had rejected the Soviet 4 million number for decades by the time the 90s rolled around but they couldn't do anything because Poland was communist. Once they got control of the sites they fixed it. Your problem here is with the faulty soviet investigation.

My problem is fellow Jews calling whites Nazis for the past several decades. Nazis is one of the most politically charged terms there is. My problem is with Jews who use the Shoah as a cudgel and a prybar against Americans and their descendants who pulled us out of ovens. Why should they support us after decades of mistreatment. Why would they save us again only to be called racists and Nazis.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Because that was a Soviet figure

They waited until the 90s to realize a 2.5 million rounding error

I think it's fair to say that the Nazis and their allies systematically butchered a lot of Jews. Which is quite unfortunate and not the solution to the JQ that was the main issue in the 20-40s in Europe. As an outsider, I just fail to see what's the point of all this numbers autism and constant battle between revisionists, deniers and Jews/libs. Why the hell do we care if there were 3M or 6? That's a fuck ton of dead people regardless. Most of which were just basic Shlomos from some poor villages, not moustache twirling bankers and land owners.
Also most revisionists have a rather peculiar position on this, i.e. it didn't really happen but it's also kinda great that it did. It's the same with Poland's invasion. If you dig a bit, you'll see the Nazi enjoyers always making the argument that it was justified and righteous.
Israel does the exact same shit - "we were attacked, they are trying to genocide us, so we are entitled now to level the whole thing and slowly annex their shit huehuehue keep seething goy".
It's quite the obnoxious and transparently deceiving behavior. Not that I have any idea on how to fix any of this as both sides are deeply entrenched in their delusions of grandeur.
I get that Jews actually feel that they are in danger and that this Holocaust mythology is needed to keep us rabid goys peaceful. However, I am of the opinion that the results are the opposite. First, it makes Jews and their influence highly visible. It gives endless ammo to actual anti-Semites, that type that would not really have any issues putting you unironically to the wall. And it makes the normies more and more aware and interested in what is essentially the JQ. I just can't see how this ends up well for Jews, since you guys are such a tiny people. As a Romanian, with about the same 20M population, the last thing I want is to have everyone focused on what we do and question our every move.

 

[Gay Baby Jailer]

Nobody doubted her stories until she claimed they were lies

Not really, several people said they doubted them including myself. Marge is also unique in her vociferous approval of Fareal's positions. Its sort of one thing to just read those posts and go "hmm" maybe you believe it, maybe you don't. Marge is constant source of positive approval for Fareal.

Not only does Marge buy into the story, she then takes it as evidence for how all men behave, without so much of a mention as to how someone is themselves accountable for choosing to marry someone like this in the first place. Marge has a total princess mentality: men are just big stinky meanies and the source of all evil in the world. She has literally said just as much. Women are just blank slates where bad things just happen upon them for no reason.

I mean this is just the exact same thing that people complain about with incels reading some Andrew Tate post about how all hoes want is duh money.

 

[Stan]

the 90s Auschwitz dropped their number from 4 million killed there to 1.5 million. 2.5 million is roughly half the 6 million Holocaust figure, and they dropped 2.5 from the count like it was a whoopsy-doodle. These questions demand answers, Marge. You sure accept a lot on faith. Except ironically, religion, or anything the Bible says about women.

See this is why I feel 100% comfortable describing you as a gay, Jewish, Holocaust denier.

So we don't need you, paladin? Not that you could lift a sword anyway, strong stay at home mommy.

Israel defends itself with American planes and tech honey. Your nation-state would be ded ten times over if you didn’t have America, and Americans like me, willing to back you up.

Also, wtf you think this is Zelda? I’m not using a sword; I would need a gun and a phylactery.

And the digs on my weight are cute, faggot. too bad there are drugs to treat obesity, and none to treat being an incorrigible homo.

You're even more ignorant of European politics than you are of American politics.

I don’t care that much their country, their monkeys, their circus. If I care too much I’ll just get MATI about things I can’t change.

Because that was a Soviet figure that came from a Soviet investigation. When the Soviets took over Poland, they erected this plaque based off the Soviet figure of 4 million. Western Holocaust scholars rejected the Soviet number, coming to the figure of 1.1-1.5 million at Auschwitz and roughly 6 million in total. Once Poland stopped being communist, they fell in line with Western scholarship and replaced the plaque with the correct number. The Soviet number was independent of the Western calculation of 6 million.

My milkshake brings all the… Orthodox Jewish Holocaust revisionists to the yard; and they’re like, “please read this 1000 word essay on the thermal physics of cremation.”

Not sure what degree this is bad faith, intellectual dishonesty, and intellectaul sloppiness. The difference between things I have stated compared to how you wrongly characterize them is quite meaningful, and is even reflected in wrong-headed Holocaust denial laws. It is not illegal, as far as I know, to talk about Norman Finkelstein's Holocaust Industry in Germany. Beyond that, as I stated, the sort of thing you stated is a non-starter for most everyone and is just one reason why I do not preoccopy myself with it. It is wholly unnecessary to talk about how, to again quote Le Pen "The Holocaust was a mere detail in history" in a century where well over 100 hundred million people will killed.
You cannot or will not get such a fundamental distinction right, just as you have not with countless others. Bad-faith, mid-wit, both? Does not really matter. And to think you have the audacity to claim people are not playing nice with you.

That is Enron type "accounting."

Holy shit do you intentionally type long ass, pompous windbag speeches so that people’s eyes glaze over and they don’t confront you?

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@Stan how do you feel about buying into every single one of Fareals retarded moid hate whopper lies uncritically? Sort of undermines your competency as a journalist no? Especially since she has now admitted that all of her replies were lies.

Care to explain how you came to believe that someones doctor husband somehow is losing all of his teeth, shitting on the floor while maintaining competency? I've worked in healthcare, I have relatives in healthcare; I have in my entire life never met a toothless doctor, nurse, or otherwise who shits on the floor. What kind of braindead deluded world do you live in?

You're like a fucking caricature with what you can be suckered into believing.

… why are you changing the subject to Fareal? I was hardly the only one talking to her, and the absence of me skewering her for fake posting isn’t a wholehearted endorsement of what she said. There were much more sympathetic people in that thread with much more buy-in.

My problem is fellow Jews calling whites Nazis for the past several decades. Nazis is one of the most politically charged terms there is. My problem is with Jews who use the Shoah as a cudgel and a prybar against Americans and their descendants who pulled us out of ovens. Why should they support us after decades of mistreatment. Why would they save us again only to be called racists and Nazis.

If you’re going to admit that it’s my lot (well, my Gramps’ lot) who saved you guys back then, then you shouldn’t pretend you Jews can go it alone without sympathetic Gentiles to cover you from other Gentiles.

Why the hell do we care if there were 3M or 6? That's a fuck ton of dead people regardless. Most of which were just basic Shlomos from some poor villages, not moustache twirling bankers and land owners.

Truthfully; it doesn’t. Systematically murdering 3M people on the basis of ethnicity still a very horrible thing to do. I can definitely understand why there are only estimates to how many actually perished: the Nazis intentionally didn’t record many deaths, or misattributed them to some other cause like disease. Whole transports of people walked off the trains and into the gas chambers without the camps registering their presence - and that was intentional.

But this is an exercise in whittling and haggling. The Holocaust “revisionist” wants to “revise” the number of people systematically murdered by Nazis until they get to some amount where they think it’s plausible to argue that the Nazis didn’t *mean* to systematically slaughter all the Jews, Roma, homos (that’s you @m1ddl3m4rch), political dissidents and conscientious objectors; they were just really bad at taking care of them. Like if your young kids somehow managed to neglect 3-6 million goldfish to death.

Basically the trick is to minimize, go super granular (can’t see the forest for the trees) and haggle and heckle their way into arguing that the Holocaust was some horrible misunderstanding or something. It’s very silly, very transparent, and I really do not know who these faggots think they are fooling but themselves.

Also most revisionists have a rather peculiar position on this, i.e. it didn't really happen but it's also kinda great that it did. It's the same with Poland's invasion. If you dig a bit, you'll see the Nazi enjoyers always making the argument that it was justified and righteous.

Yes, this is one of the ways they belie their own logical argument - they take way too much pleasure thinking about what concentration camp and kill camp victims went through to believe it did not happen.

Marge is also unique in her vociferous approval of Fareal's positions. It’s sort of one thing to just read those posts and go "hmm" maybe you believe it, maybe you don't. Marge is constant source of positive approval for Fareal.

Am I? I mean, you’re a dick and I’ve been ignoring you for a reason, but I was not overly chummy with Fareal. I was supportive, yes, but I wasn’t planning to go extract her or send her a bunch of ETH.

General Holocaust thoughts; the Holocaust is upsetting and fascinating because it was so impartial and mechanical. Human responsibility was purposefully removed from the equation so that the murder assembly line could make quota. So it isn’t just the Jew-hate, Gypsy-hate, or the knowledge that if my values are worth anything, I’d be dying of exposure in there with them. It’s the dispassionate, systematic neglect and violence that grabs people’s minds.

But it wasn’t my Holocaust. I just went to Buchenwald in 2011 and froze my toes off looking at the footprints of the spartan “dormitories”, crematorium, and checking out the Nazis’ hundreds of random pairs of eyeglasses and millions of buttons recovered from the soil of the camp. My ancestors didn’t die in camps, but I can’t imagine what they would think of the deniers here assembled. But hey, your Holocaust, your legacy, you’re the ones in a deeply unforgiving and strict religion with little opportunity for repentance. I get to repent every week.

That’s it folks. There’s a Holocaust denier thread in A&N so if you want to argue more about whether an extremely well documented war atrocity (the war atrocity of atrocities) happened or not. I really have no further desire to engage any of you about this delusion you share.

 

[Misericordia]

See this is why I feel 100% comfortable describing you as a gay, Jewish, Holocaust denier.

Is this a misquote or are you accusing me of being @m1ddl3m4rch? I'm sad to say that I'm an utter newfag to this community and have never had an account before this one.

 

[The Feline Solution]

Women and girls are doing better than boys and men in school because they study harder, not because of affirmative action.

Teacher's pet

 

[Stan]

Is this a misquote or are you accusing me of being @m1ddl3m4rch? I'm sad to say that I'm an utter newfag to this community and have never had an account before this one.

My bad, my friend; yes, that comment was directed at @m1ddl3m4rch

Teacher's pet

You're a cat.

 

[Gay Baby Jailer]

why are you changing the subject to Fareal?

If anything this autistic slap fight over the holocaust is more of a subject change than the braindead things you have written. I am not beholden to how you wish your thread was operated.

but I was not overly chummy with Fareal

It's not a matter of being friendly nigger, its a matter of supporting a crazy anecdote and using it to reaffirm your bias. You are not capable of thinking critically or abstraction. Are you incapable of having a moral principle that isn't predicated on whether or not someone is friendly to you? This honestly explains a lot of your behavior.

mean, you’re a dick and I’ve been ignoring you for a reason

lmao you couldn't ignore someone if you tried sweetie