Margaret Pless / idlediletante / Stan - Official Kiwi Farms Advertiser and Enthusiast Who Has Proudly Eaten Ass. Now Posting Her Tits to Own the Troons!

[Lemmingwiser]

That is difficult for me to tell you, since as you probably know that dude's books are no longer in print.

If only there were methods of distribution independent of book stores. Unfortunately we have not yet figured out the technology to spread writing beyond what is produced by the printing press.

So I can't really speak to his claims in detail, but from what I can gather this nonfiction book is a historical investigation into the murder of Simon of Trent.
per WP:


So it kind of suggests that there's a Jewish guy who understands nuance, who wrote this book, and there are wehraboos who don't understand nuance and take it as confirmation of the blood libel exists and the Jews were covering it up. Which would be a deliberate misread of the text, I think.

What does confuse me if Toaff's seemingly deliberate encouragement of the exact wrong audience for this book: i.e. wehraboo retards who want anti-Semitic talking points from a Real Jew (tm) for internet points. I think the author would or should know that the context of his research is going to be lost on average IQ neo-Nazis. Because I really don't think a guy who's researched this issue so carefully doesn't know exactly what he's doing when he says stuff like "I won't pull this book out of print even if they crucify me".

Who needs to read books at all, when you can read what wikipedia says about the context?

Perhaps Toaff was principally interested in the underlaying truth of some mysterious historical facts rather than how one or the other group uses said fact politically. And the book goes far beyond covering just Simon of Trent, but I suppose we can't count on wikipedia for anything beyond how we politically should contextualize the book be gutmenschen.

 

[The Hardest R]

Not really, several people said they doubted them including myself. Marge is also unique in her vociferous approval of Fareal's positions. Its sort of one thing to just read those posts and go "hmm" maybe you believe it, maybe you don't. Marge is constant source of positive approval for Fareal.

Maggie uncritically approves of things that conform to her world view and uncritically rejects things that don’t. Definitely traits you want to see in a journalist.

If anything this autistic slap fight over the holocaust is more of a subject change than the braindead things you have written. I am not beholden to how you wish your thread was operated.

Maggie is mad that some people are no longer talking about the holocaust because she’s hoping she can oink and squeal to the jannies about how all her haydurs are just evil antisemites (oh gawd) so she can get the jannies to sweep up the thread.

 

[Stan]

Israel does the exact same shit - "we were attacked, they are trying to genocide us, so we are entitled now to level the whole thing and slowly annex their shit huehuehue keep seething goy".

Well, this is the part that hits me in the feels. I sincerely do not know how to solve the Israeli-Palestine conflict. Sometimes, I think maybe it'd be best if the Israelis just deported everyone in the Gaza Strip to Egypt or wherever - they'd have a better chance there than they do in Gaza. Sometimes I read the Bible, and recall that even when Moses and his crowd came to Israel, there were still people living there (apparently, giant people), and that even then the Jews saw them as a threat rather than a new neighbor. And then, despite my love for them, I do blame the Jews, because they're exactly the sort of people who bring a nuclear weapon to a knife-fight out of fear. The one-sidedness of Israel's Neon Genesis Evangelion tanks and air support against a mob of Arabs with Uzis in tunnels is bad optics even if their cause is justified (note: their cause is 100% justified.) How I feel about this oscillates a little; but in general suffice to say I wish this was not happening. God guide you in all that, Jewish dudes.

I think there's enough physical space in Israel for everybody, but emotional space? No. Apparently not, mankind is going to fight over Jerusalem, the City of God, until Judgement Day or the Third Temple drops like DLC.

Yeah stimulants are diet meth, specifically mixed amphetamine salts.

OK I take back what I said. I was on Adderall, which is mixed amphetamine salts, a whole bunch as a kid and again in college (mostly just finals week). I agree with you, with one caveat: Adderall is produced to high standards of cleanliness and purity, and you're really unlikely to harm yourself taking caplets of Adderall by mouth. I just had to go back to BMC today and take a look at all the opiate addicts and stimulant addicts who wander through the public square like NPC aggro events. Some of them were just stuck in weird poses; a woman bent over at hips, hands on the knees, as if she'd puke, but she was just still. Dudes my age huddling in corners, couples snoozing in the quieter nooks on campus. someone also did a wall sit against the trash can and pooped down the side. That job site always was, uh, colorful, but I'm much much happier just to be a patient there than trying to persuade HIV+ methadone maintenance people to donate 6 ounces of blood to my PIs (with me collecting) for research purposes. The best part is hazing the people who used to work my research associate job by reminding them of the rules of imformed consent (e.g. "I can't agree to participate in your study until you provide me with the consent form.", "I cannot sign this consent form until I read it in full", *notifies the research associate by email of my consent to the form and then faxes a wetsigned copy to them just to piss off their bosses*, provides de

I guess I can be a tiny bit vengeful...

If only there were methods of distribution independent of book stores. Unfortunately we have not yet figured out the technology to spread writing beyond what is produced by the printing press.


Who needs to read books at all, when you can read what wikipedia says about the context?

Perhaps Toaff was principally interested in the underlaying truth of some mysterious historical facts rather than how one or the other group uses said fact politically. And the book goes far beyond covering just Simon of Trent, but I suppose we can't count on wikipedia for anything beyond how we politically should contextualize the book be gutmenschen.

Lemmingwiser, baby, I'll go read it. I have an assignment from church to go read a new banned book anyway, and this looks like a good choice.
(Like you would go read some specific author's full length book if I aaked you to... feh.)

Maggie uncritically approves of things that conform to her world view and uncritically rejects things that don’t. Definitely traits you want to see in a journalist.

Jesus you're salty, it's not like I got a spread in the New York Times about Fareal and her horrible husband. GTFOvarit.

Maggie is mad that some people are no longer talking about the holocaust because she’s hoping she can oink and squeal to the jannies about how all her haydurs are just evil antisemites (oh gawd) so she can get the jannies to sweep up the thread.

??? Honestly I try not to bring it up, because everyone seems to have a hot take about it, and those hot takes always make me feel ashamed of the users here whom I actually like.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Well, this is the part that hits me in the feels. I sincerely do not know how to solve the Israeli-Palestine conflict. Sometimes, I think maybe it'd be best if the Israelis just deported everyone in the Gaza Strip to Egypt or wherever - they'd have a better chance there than they do in Gaza. Sometimes I read the Bible, and recall that even when Moses and his crowd came to Israel, there were still people living there (apparently, giant people), and that even then the Jews saw them as a threat rather than a new neighbor. And then, despite my love for them, I do blame the Jews, because they're exactly the sort of people who bring a nuclear weapon to a knife-fight out of fear. The one-sidedness of Israel's Neon Genesis Evangelion tanks and air support against a mob of Arabs with Uzis in tunnels is bad optics even if their cause is justified (note: their cause is 100% justified.) How I feel about this oscillates a little; but in general suffice to say I wish this was not happening. God guide you in all that, Jewish dudes.

I think there's enough physical space in Israel for everybody, but emotional space? No. Apparently not, mankind is going to fight over Jerusalem, the City of God, until Judgement Day or the Third Temple drops like DLC.

Even as this is KF where we shitpost, you have some responsibilities still, as you're supposed to be an educated progressive journalist.
This is not the Bible, this suffering is Current Year, and we could stop it. As we type, those idiots are dying of hunger and diseases in some tiny part of Gaza. All civilian structures in the rest of the area were razed.
No, you cannot just ignore that or close your eyes to it, at least not if you are what you say you are. These are people just like you.
The conquest of Canaan happened under Joshua, not Moses, BTW. That was far more morally ambiguous compared to Israel's modern history (which I cannot sperg out in full about here). First, there were some older animosities and tribal warfare. Also it can be argued that they were on a God-given mission, if you want, a holy jihad against the polytheistic tribes. God also promised it to former prophets, like Abraham, more or less. Which Arabs also claim heritage from as Ishmaelites. So it's complicated, as expected.
That land was not a country yet, it was populated by various tribes, with city-states, warlords, migratory shepherds and so on. So in one way, the Jewish tribes were just one of the many passing through and they eventually settled it in full and created their empire under David and Solomon, paying in blood for it and winning a competition against equally savage and brutal tribes.
Present day things are very different.
There is no tribe that's lead by God, that's quite obvious. There are just shades of evil and deviancy. These wars are purely driven by hatred. Again very obvious.
Also, you are calling a far right ethnonationalist regime with theocratic influences as 100% justified.
That cannot coexist with progressivism and liberalism.
I understand this must be a struggle within you in which you try to make peace between various competing ideas. I'd suggest you take some time and think about this without the emotions associated with dunking on us chuds and aloggers, and hopefully without any Jews nearby telling you sob stories while their planes are dumping more ammo than in Ukraine on a defenseless population.

 

[Misericordia]

Also, you are calling a far right ethnonationalist regime with theocratic influences as 100% justified.

Astonishingly based. I take back everything I ever said about you @Stan.

 

[Stan]

The conquest of Canaan happened under Joshua, not Moses, BTW.

Cathy-sized sigh *ACCCCCCK!*
I'm talking about Numbers 13:1-14:45; the selection of spies and the kerfuffle with the giants and the giant grapes and God giving up on the Israelites again and threatening to turn his whole caravan back into the desert for another 40 years. Moses' intercessory prayer, you know? The one which costs him personal entry to Israel? No...? ok then

I understand this must be a struggle within you in which you try to make peace between various competing ideas. I'd suggest you take some time and think about this without the emotions associated with dunking on us chuds and aloggers, and hopefully without any Jews nearby telling you sob stories while their planes are dumping more ammo than in Ukraine on a defenseless population.

Maybe the rank and file surface people are defenseless, but whoever built that tunnel warren under Gaza probably are not. They certainly weren't defenseless on October 7th.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Astonishingly based. I take back everything I ever said about you @Stan.

The issue is that she lacks consistency.
If she wants to embrace being a Jewish shill, that's fine, but her former feminist anti-chud credentials are forfeit and she will get to be treated as an ethnic enemy to European civilization, since that's the only path forward for Jewish ethnonationalism.

Maybe the rank and file surface people are defenseless, but whoever built that tunnel warren under Gaza probably are not. They certainly weren't defenseless on October 7th.

This has nothing to do with Hamas. You're literally trumpeting the repetitive Netanyahu.
This is about making sure Gaza is taken over and Palestinians removed from it, which you seem to support.
You support ethnic cleansing, so your opinions on pogroms are null and void.
If Jews do it, so can we. Always remember that.
This is not about fucking around with the chuds. This is serious business with 30K dead. Wake up from that American isolation and stupor.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

then you shouldn’t pretend you Jews can go it alone without sympathetic Gentiles to cover you from other Gentiles.

Israel isn't being protected because of sympathetic gentiles covering them from other gentiles you pedantic twit. Palestinians and Arabs are also Semites, not gentiles, just not the kind you prefer to toss salad with; Iranians are Persians, and a good number are literally OG Aryans.

We protect Israel because its our base in the ME. It's essential to out interests in the region. When it no longer is we'll drop it like a hot potato.

You're a cat.

Nothing wrong with that.

I sincerely do not know how to solve the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

It's not for you to solve. But since we're on the subject there have always been jews and Palestinians/Arabs who have worked together to establish mutual cooperation and respect with theirt respective communities, as was the case before WW2. And surprisingly, a lot of the jews are are Hasidim.

Jews were free to live in Palestine when they asked Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab for permission to live there in 638. He agreed and gave them their own place, now known as the Jewish Quarter in Jerusalem, and some time later on they were exempt from the jizya.
But you should also keep in mind-as a professed Christian-ibn al-Khattab conquered several Christian cities and the jews openly aided the Muslim conquerors. Jewish soldiers fought in the Muslim ranks as volunteers, Jews acted as guides and provided food and provisions for the Muslim armies. They remembered the Battle of the Trench and jews don't care what you say or do for them, they will only do what they believe is right for them. All that ass tonguing was for naught.

That's my biggest issue with jews and Israelis who believe they can kill and/or throw out the Palestinians; it wont last and its self-destructive. Better to establish a policy of mutual cooperation and respect now than later, when the US pulls away and there will be hundreds, if not thousands, of blood feuds to settle. Most sabras are really ME now, I even hear a lot of them say "Wallah!" which is literally a ME colloquialism that means God but comes from Arabic lol, so it wouldn't be as big a deal as many make it out to be.

OK I take back what I said. I was on Adderall, which is mixed amphetamine salts, a whole bunch as a kid and again in college (mostly just finals week). I agree with you, with one caveat: Adderall is produced to high standards of cleanliness and purity, and you're really unlikely to harm yourself taking caplets of Adderall by mouth.

Those things are bad, but especially bad for children. Long term use is certainly harmful, especially for children and very, very bad for adults. The effects can last a lifetime.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Lemmingwiser, baby, I'll go read it. I have an assignment from church to go read a new banned book anyway, and this looks like a good choice.
(Like you would go read some specific author's full length book if I aaked you to... feh.)

I wasn't really recommending it. I think it's a slog of a tome. But I have an interest in the forbidden, in whichever direction it goes (though like anyone I find it easier to read things that align with my views). My comment was more that I thought what you wrote did not align with what I read. I have the same experience when I went to political events in the Netherlands 5-6 years ago. The people from one particular party couldn't stop asking if I knew "the kalergi plan", but when I asked them, none of them had actually read Praktischer Idealismus from coudenhove-kalergi. They only knew to parrot the context that some right wing polemic had told them what was in it. And yes, I do consider Toaff's book quite an honest scholarly account.

In regards for the vice versa, for me it's less about who recommends it, and more if the book would be an interesting read. I don't know if you have any books you think would be interesting. Especially if it's something banned, somewhere by any nation, or better, by online booksellers like amazon. So give it a shot. Try me.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Holy shit do you intentionally type long ass, pompous windbag speeches so that people’s eyes glaze over and they don’t confront you?

And Marge continues to prove time and again that she is the very exemplar of projection, cognitive dissonance, and utter denial. Do you look at the sheer size and mass of your inane ramblings so large they cannot be screenshotted on a single page?

 

[Stan]

The issue is that she lacks consistency.
If she wants to embrace being a Jewish shill, that's fine, but her former feminist anti-chud credentials are forfeit and she will get to be treated as an ethnic enemy to European civilization, since that's the only path forward for Jewish ethnonationalism.

I disagree that I cannot back Israel as I do and somehow not be a feminist, I find being a feminist and being pro-Palestine and pro-Islam is a much more contradictory set of beliefs.

Also, you’re an avowed anti feminist, so what does your opinion matter on this subject? You just plain hate feminists no matter what their opinion on the IP conflict is.

You support ethnic cleansing, so your opinions on pogroms are null and void.
If Jews do it, so can we. Always remember that.

??? You are ranting,

And Marge continues to prove time and again that she is the very exemplar of projection, cognitive dissonance, and utter denial. Do you look at the sheer size and mass of your inane ramblings so large they cannot be screenshotted on a single page?

STFU Polonius before I stab you like the rat you are. You’re absolutely tiresome and contribute nothing to any conversation you’re part of, and you’re a pedophile. Or ephebeophile, whatever.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Also, you’re an avowed anti feminist, so what does your opinion matter on this subject? You just plain hate feminists no matter what their opinion on the IP conflict is.

Let's see what we learned from this exchange, shall we?
- Marge is basically a shiksa. Not just a shiksa. She is a Jewish supremacist shabbos goy.
- Marge always ignores all inconvenient facts. The dead Palestinians are of no concern to her. That shows a deep level of enemy dehumanization, similar to what the Nazis did.
And what the Jewish Israelis supporting the cleansing do.
- Marge will refuse to forward actual arguments and will constantly be dismissive when she is cornered.
I think Marge should be treated as an extremist Zionist, i.e. an ethnonationalist. All her progressive credentials should be removed and dismissed, as she cares the most about Jews, and is even filled with hatred for her own bloodline.
And Marge?
I don't hate anyone. My ideology is consistent. You might disagree with it, but what I say has an actual logic behind it.
You don't have any logic, you are caught into a web of inconsistencies and lies, and your mind is filled with obvious contradictions.

 

[Stan]

Let's see what we learned from this exchange, shall we?
- Marge is a basically a shiksa. Not just a shiksa. She is a Jewish supremacist shabbos goy.

Correct.

- Marge always ignores all inconvenient facts. The dead Palestinians are of no concern to her. That shows a deep level of enemy dehumanization, similar to what the Nazis did.
And what the Jewish Israelis supporting the cleansing do.

Incorrect. I feel bad for them in the same distant way that I feel bad for Afghanis killed by predator drones, or Pakis dying in a giant gas explosion in Lahore. Do I like knowing that America kills sorta-indiscriminately with the drones, and while they probably kill a good many of the militants and insurgents and bomb-makers other assorted bad guys, there's always some non-combatants that get smushed. This is a sad fact of war.

So for the Gazans: It's sad, I'm sad for them, and we should try to help innocent Gazans caught in the crossfire (I donate to ERD, which runs one of the hospitals in Gaza), but I also don't feel any personal responsibility for what's happening.

Gazans are so associated with the enemy (Hamas) and tbh I think they intentionally conceal them within in their ranks. Hamas puts its command centers under hospitals and shit to deter Israelis from bombing them. They murdered a bunch of Israelis and still have some hostage. Hamas sucker punched Israel on the sabbath and murdered a bunch of grandmas and kids. No country would just tolerate an act of war like that; a military response is absolutely necessary.

Tl;dr: Hamas knew what it was signing up for and it chose to sacrifice its own people anyway, in an effort to grab more international attention and support from the rest of the Arab world.

- Marge will refuse to forward actual arguments and will constantly be dismissive when she is cornered.

>> boo hoo why won't you endlessly debate me about the IP conflict it must because you're too stupid and cowardly to craft a response boo hoo debate me!

Ai. Look. it's two weeks until Easter, I'm preparing for a month of travel in China, and I have a lot of IRL things to worry about without wasting more time than I already am on this stupid debate that will affect nothing.

I think Marge should be treated as an extremist Zionist, i.e. an ethnonationalist. All her progressive credentials should be removed and dismissed, as she cares the most about Jews, and is even filled with hatred for her own bloodline.

??? Where are you getting all this?
Who are you going to report me to? What credentials are you even referring to?

And Marge?
I don't hate anyone. My ideology is consistent. You might disagree with it, but what I say has an actual logic behind it.
You don't have any logic, you are caught into a web of inconsistencies and lies, and your mind is filled with obvious contradictions.

I think you are calling me names because you simply don't like my ideology. It's not inconsistent, nor mercurial; it's just consistent with liberal values you despise. You make assumptions about what I believe and then accuse me of lying when I don't meet those assumptions and expectations.

And here's another reason that I got no love lost for Hamas: they raped a bunch of Jewish women on Oct. 7th. The Muslim ideology for women is currently toxic and despicable to me. Hamas exists in explicit opposition to people I care about. So yeah, fuck Hamas; best of luck to the Gazans.

I feel as if I could summarize the last three pages of this thread:
Marge: I like Jews, Judaism, and I support Israel
The Jews here: *hissssss* How dare you *seethe* we don't want you *hiss* we hates you! Go Away! Stop talking about Judaism, fatty! Only WE can talk about Judaism!
The Gentiles here: You mendacious cunt! Race traitor! Why won't you just give up everything you believe and listen to what I"M saying?!?!
Marge: well no one said it would be easy...

 

[AgendaPoster]

Good Marge, good.
Let it be clear that:
- you are a shabbos goy and Jewish supremacist
- you expect we care for American dindus, women and progressives, but you don't give a fuck about Amerimutt and Jewish atrocities
"It's sad"
Well Marge.
I cannot wait to tell you how sad I will feel when you are enslaved under a far right regime.
I will literally make sure to shed as many tears as possible.
You chose your sides.
Liberalism is colorblind, you absolute lunatic.
You cannot be a Jewish enjoyer and a liberal. Get that into your head.
Liberalism is universalist and egalitarian, that means your beloved Jews get the exact same treatment (i.e. negative when needed) as anyone else.

 

[Misericordia]

Marge is a basically a shiksa.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Yes, I know.
"American" culture...

 

[Begemot]

So, we finna running a train on dis shabbos goy hoe or what? She needs redemption via black trans dick.

 

[AgendaPoster]

So, we finna running a train on dis shabbos goy hoe or what? She needs redemption via black trans dick.

Yeah it's about time.
All hope is lost.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

STFU Polonius before I stab you like the rat you are.

Now Marge seems to liken herself to the evil girl from The Ring, Samara Morgan, including the power to materialize through the screen to attack me or any one else who dares incur her ire Hilarious. I wish I had the graphic skills to make a meme of you leapng through a computer or mobile screen with an icepick on one hand while chomping on fatty food in the other. You aren't stabbing me. And besides, I am not a rat, but a tiger.

You’re absolutely tiresome and contribute nothing to any conversation you’re part of...

Wrong as always, although being tiresome TO YOU is a feather in anyone's cap.
The rest has been rebutted and refuted countless times.

 

[Stan]

You cannot be a Jewish enjoyer and a liberal. Get that into your head.
Liberalism is universalist and egalitarian, that means your beloved Jews get the exact same treatment (i.e. negative when needed) as anyone else.

I'm all good with that, I just like freedom of religion. Worship how you want, we're all equal under the eyes of the law.

"It's sad"
Well Marge.
I cannot wait to tell you how sad I will feel when you are enslaved under a far right regime.
I will literally make sure to shed as many tears as possible.
You chose your sides.
Liberalism is colorblind, you absolute lunatic.

Jeez you're ranting like it even matters what I think about this. Or what you think about this. You realize the people in power (like idk, Joe Biden and Bibi N. and
There's a Chinese proverb: no man can stand against the tide. What would you have me do, self-immolate in front of the Israeli Embassy?

Good Marge, good.
Let it be clear that:
- you are a shabbos goy and Jewish supremacist
- you expect we care for American dindus, women and progressives, but you don't give a fuck about Amerimutt and Jewish atrocities

It's a lot more politically effective for me to care about my own countrymen, and what happens to them, instead of those in countries I don't live in, don't have a vote in. Amazingly it is possible to care about police racism, but understand that the conflict in Gaza is well beyond anything you can advise anyone on.

@Stan You worked at NY Magazine, did you ever interact with Eve Fartlow? Any crazy stories about her?

Fartlow? Never heard of her.

And besides, I am not a rat, but a tiger.

Go read Hamlet and you might get the joke.
Also, you are not a tiger. You are afaik an old, angry man who has taken up residence in KF because he gets himself banned from most everywhere else.

I wish I had the graphic skills to make a meme of you leapng through a computer or mobile screen with an icepick on one hand while chomping on fatty food in the other.

That sounds badass, I'll commission it.
The fatty food though... alas. I'm on one of those future-tech obesity drugs, so I feel nauseous after a few bites of anything.