Opinion The West has a deviancy problem - Our moral confusion is proving suicidal

The West has a deviancy problem Our moral confusion is proving suicidal

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali

March 21, 2024 5 mins



When and why did American life become so coarse, amoral and ungovernable? In his classic 1993 essay, “Defining Deviancy Down”, the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan offered a semantic explanation. He concluded that, as the amount of deviant behaviour increased beyond the levels the community can “afford to recognise”, we have been redefining deviancy so as to exempt conduct we used to stigmatise, while also quietly raising the “normal” level in categories where behaviour is now abnormal by any earlier standard. The reasons behind this, he said, were altruism, opportunism and denial — but the result was the same: an acceptance of mental pathology, broken families and crime as a fact of life.

In that same summer, Charles Krauthammer responded to Senator Moynihan with a speech at the American Enterprise Institute. He acknowledged Senator Moynihan’s point but said it was only one side of the story. Deviancy was defined down for one category of society: the lower classes and black communities. For the middle classes, who are overwhelmingly white and Christian, the opposite was true. Deviancy was in fact defined up, stigmatising and criminalising behaviour that was previously regarded as normal. In other words, there was a double standard at work.

But Krauthammer went further: he reckoned that this double standard makes us feel good. A society must feel that it is policing its norms by combatting deviancy. And once we have given up fighting it in one section of society, we move to concentrate on another.

This sociological pathology is now pervasive, contributing to the “soft bigotry of low expectations” that forms part of modern identity politics. And, as foreign policy becomes increasingly entangled with the culture war, this pathology has now extended to a new terrain. The result is that the application of progressive moral double-standards is now seen at the level of geopolitics, most specifically over the ongoing Israel-Hamas war. We have produced a discourse in which deviancy is defined up for Jews and Israel, and down for Arabs and Muslims.

Immediately, for instance, it was forgotten that the greatest display of deviancy in this conflict came from Hamas. More than anything, October 7 illustrated in a single day how swift the descent from civilisation to barbarism can be. On that day, the heinous acts themselves were manifested in the massacre of innocent, unarmed and totally unprepared civilians. These were young people at a music festival, many of them peaceniks. Family members were shot, stabbed and mutilated in front of one another. Women were raped, homes were burned, and the perpetrators revelled in their acts. Their GoPro cameras were set to record, for they knew large audiences at home awaited that footage.

Celebrations ensued, not only by Palestinians but also by many Arabs, Muslims, and fellow travellers on Western university campuses. Top university administrators displayed a shocking level of moral confusion in response. The three Women of the Ivies could not even take courage before Congress simply to say: “This is not who we are. We condemn this.”

The ensuing demonisation of Israel for waging what is historically a standard siege, and the relentless calls for a ceasefire, have followed. And these calls have been so effective that now Israel’s great allies in the UK and the US are twisting Israel’s arm to concede. But even without the appeasement of a complete ceasefire, we know full well that it is only a matter of time before Hamas and her helpers reorganise and repeat the atrocities of October 7. We know it because this has been Hamas’s pattern. Attack, provoke a retaliation, complain of disproportionality. Then acquire the world’s sympathy, and negotiate ceasefire, aid, and the time to plan the next attack.

“It is only a matter of time before Hamas and her helpers reorganise and repeat the atrocities of October 7.”

This is only possible due to several common false assumptions about the conduct of this conflict, all of which define deviancy up for Israel and down for Hamas. Chief among these is that Islamic terror is only a monstrous creation of the Israeli Frankenstein. We are frequently told that if Israel continues to pursue her mission to destroy Hamas, then Israel will create the next generation of Islamists and terrorists, not just in the Middle East but across the globe. As a result, Israel should agree to a ceasefire and hold to it even if, as would certainly be the case, the other side does not. But this assumption is plainly false. The overwhelming evidence of the last 75 years is that Islamist extremism is unaffected by what Israel does or fails to do. The extremists are created in the classrooms, sitting rooms, and neighbourhoods of Muslim and Arabs countries, in madrasas and mosques — many of which are half a world away from Israel.

Nevertheless, we are still enjoined to blame Israel for Islamism, with the crimes of the former often personified by its prime minister. A standard refrain has developed that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s actions and failures were the cause of Hamas’s savage attacks. But whatever the truth behind the portrait of Netanyahu as the belligerent, uncompromising, democracy-undermining monster, the trope shifts attention away from the core issue, which is the belligerent uncompromising Palestinian intransigence backed by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Since 1947, the Arabs have remained fixed in their determination to eliminate the state of Israel, in part by preventing peace from ever coming about. Were the failed peace attempts in 1973, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2000 and 2008 all the fault of Netanyahu? Was no Arab agency involved? Take the Oslo Accords and their follow-on at Camp David in 2000. When Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin offered “a separate Palestinian entity short of a state”, and an agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation, PLO leader Yasser Arafat left the negotiating table.

In a similar vein, we are often told that the classic human dynamic of war and peace does not apply to this conflict. The standard dynamic is that the winner takes all so that a lasting peace can occur. But this logic has never been applied to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Up until 1967, a conflict was waged called the Arab-Israeli war. And Israel won that war, defeating the Arab countries in 1967, and then again six years later. Only at that point was its name changed to the Israel-Palestinian conflict and the territories Israel had acquired in defending itself against aggression were declared to be “occupied” and therefore illegitimate. In war, if there is no winner, and no truce holds, then peace can never prevail.

Amid this moral confusion, though, there are rays of hope. Within a few hours of the October 7 massacre, the Moroccan regime condemned the violence against civilians. The UAE called the event “barbaric and heinous” and demanded that Hamas immediately release the hostages. This is not nothing and it shows that one source of the rot — Gulf funds for indoctrination of Palestinian children — may one day dry up. The United States should help this along by applying the same standards of conduct to Muslims and Jews, the same standards of statecraft to Arab nations, Iran, and Israel. Regimes like the UAE’s need to be helped and rewarded. Conversely, when Arab states promote the death cult of political Islam, they must be condemned and shunned.

Everything eventually ends, but not all things must end in failure. In the West we have a choice to uphold our moral vantage point, or let it crumble away. But in doing so we should recognise that every lowering of standards to appease extremist Arabs and Muslims is racism dressed up as compassion and disdain masquerading as kindness. It is moral confusion and it is dangerous — suicidally so.

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Adapted from Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s 2024 Russell Kirk Lecture delivered at the Heritage Foundation, Washington, D.C., and co-sponsored by Alliance Defending Freedom, on March 12, 2024.

Source : https://unherd.com/2024/03/the-west-has-a-deviancy-problem/

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an UnHerd columnist. She is also a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, Founder of the AHA Foundation, and host of The Ayaan Hirsi Ali Podcast. Her new book is Prey: Immigration, Islam, and the Erosion of Women’s Rights.

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One dude so assblasted about the long nose tribe he's started LARPing as not only a sandnigger, but the niggerest of sandnigger cultures.
And a whole shitton of people who can't see beyond the sectarian strife angle to see Hirsi Ali's point that Western culture generally has begun encouraging misbehavior by the lowest-class fuckers in their country while amping up punishing people who actually contribute to society so our elites can simultaneously feel like they're benevolent, but not passive, which will lead us to our collective doom.
 
Lol @ everyone acting like their version of the Yahweh/Allah/Jehovah whatever is the better iteration. It is like watching people argue about whether Coke or Pepsi is superior; or McDonald's or Burger King is more nutritious. It is the basically the same filth.

Where I stand, the "god" of Abraham has attributes more akin to a demon than any benevolent deity. Yes, some great things have been done in the name of these religions, but by and large this demon seems to encourage man to rationalize his worst and most deviant desires in the guise of virtue. This squabble between Israel and Palestine is a perfect example of this trend.

It is like arguing whenever Coke Zero, Coke Light or Coke Cherry is the best. Not even Pepsi, that would be Buddha.

Religions are just tools. Christianity was just a hippy sect for cool jew dudes who wanted to be dank man. Peace, not barkohba! This went well, as Jesus was a swell and fun dude, and gathered like minded goofballs around him, who must have been nice to hang around with.

Than Rome got overtaken it, but Rome also imprinted in them ZEUS VULT, I mean DEUS VULT, and the popes used it to make warriors busy. It went well.

Than they got Saladined, and the big science heads also began to chip away at papal power.

It eventually turned into the religion of fart sniffers who can't even Inquisition or Crusade anymore, and it turned lame and meek. The priests are now more interested in little boys than crusading, save for the uttermost skizo mini-sects that you can find in US Bumfuck, State of Rustbelt.

The current pope washes muslim feet like the good cucklord he is. All the other branches save the Russian one are cucked just as well. It is a lost religion, devoid of all of its original hippie Woodstockstein charm or the fiery murder spirit of Rome. Sure the Westboro guys actually say what they should, but there is like 50 of them and they just make lolsuits.

The fact that the US or lets say UK has no uniting religion nor any uniting race also makes it hard. They were Anglos once, but got mutted. Lovecraft fortold of this.

My idea of a good civilization is not one that merely kicks down on people I don't like (though I will be the first to tell you that certain groups are considered undesirables for a very good reason). It's one that makes people happier, freer, more virtuous, and more industrious.

That's all good in theory, but that is optimistic and unrealistic to the levels of "never been tried". You can't be happy and industrious, or virtous and free. You can in strategy games if you cheat, but that's not how real life works.

You can have a virtuous and industrious civilisation like most dictators try, a happy and virtous one like the Amish, or a free and happy one like libs when they can butt-burgle each other in public.

Freedom is the enemy of virtue, and happiness is the enemy of productivity. The cake can't be eaten and had at the same time.
Even the commies only wanted three out of the four, and it still didn't work out. The more free people are, the more virtue dies, just look at San Fransisco.
 
Where I stand, the "god" of Abraham has attributes more akin to a demon than any benevolent deity.
Because that's what they are. What kind of deity gets cockblocked by iron chariots? What kind of god drowns the entire planet? What kind of god does virtually nothing while the uppity mortals slay his flesh and blood? Sounds like a whole lot of narcissistic cunts to me. But don't worry, eventually man will find where these nonces live and burn them up with a thousand artificial suns.
 
ITT:
One dude so assblasted about the long nose tribe he's started LARPing as not only a sandnigger, but the niggerest of sandnigger cultures.
And a whole shitton of people who can't see beyond the sectarian strife angle to see Hirsi Ali's point that Western culture generally has begun encouraging misbehavior by the lowest-class fuckers in their country while amping up punishing people who actually contribute to society so our elites can simultaneously feel like they're benevolent, but not passive, which will lead us to our collective doom.
This really is the most retarded fucking board on this site. The majority of these posts aren't even about the fucking article.
 
lmao has the west done that? Are people happier, more free, more virtuous, and more industrious than they were 40 years ago? Oh what's that, they aren't? Suicides and mental illness are at an all time high? People are less free than ever? Everyone's becoming a degenerate and all the industry was shipped to China? Darn.
I never said any of those things were NOT happening, you dentheaded mongoloid.

The problem is that Nazism will never catch on in the US.

Nationalism a) has to be about the time and place it is in, not an atavistic appeal to another nation from 100 years ago; and b) has to have popular appeal.

Nazism has neither of these. It's too pariochially German and has all the popularity of ass cancer.

My rejection of Nazism is not out of any concern for Jews or non-whites; it's pragmatic. Nazis and white nationalists are some of the most retarded, ineffective jackasses on this planet. They do white people more harm than good.

If your movement's biggest advocates and apologists all have threads on Kiwi Farms, then your ideology is for retards.

What America needs is an Americentric sort of Christian Nationalism; it's what globochomo considers the most imminent threat to its power. (And obviously, it needs to stop bowing to the Golden Calf of Zionism. Doesn't even need to be anti-Israel; just let them take care of themselves. They're more than capable of it).
 
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This is absolutely true. If all the Jews moved to Mars, Muslims would be plotting a way to get at them, then complaining about Islamophobia.
Israel could initiate Total Raghead Death today if they wanted to. They just choose not to, because they'd lose their goybucks if they didn't have anyone to fight, or would get cut off by the bleeding-heart fags who simp for ragheads.
 
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I never said any of those things were NOT happening, you dentheaded mongoloid.

The problem is that Nazism will never catch on in the US.

Nationalism a) has to be about the time and place it is in, not an atavistic appeal to another nation from 100 years ago; and b) has to have popular appeal.

Nazism has neither of these. It's too pariochially German and has all the popularity of ass cancer.

My rejection of Nazism is not out of any concern for Jews or non-whites; it's pragmatic. Nazis and white nationalists are some of the most retarded, ineffective jackasses on this planet. They do white people more harm than good.

If your movement's biggest advocates and apologists all have threads on Kiwi Farms, then your ideology is for retards.

What America needs is an Americentric sort of Christian Nationalism; it's what globochomo considers the most imminent threat to its power. (And obviously, it needs to stop bowing to the Golden Calf of Zionism. Doesn't even need to be anti-Israel; just let them take care of themselves. They're more than capable of it).
Boo! Hard pass! Nationalism centered on any Abrahamic religion just seems ineffective, and, more importantly, LAME!
 
Boo! Hard pass! Nationalism centered on any Abrahamic religion just seems ineffective, and, more importantly, LAME!
An ideology whose legacy is defeat, shame, and infamy is in no position to lecture anyone on effectiveness.

War and violence are the final way of settling disputes. Nazism lost on the battlefield, therefore it is discarded to the shitheap.

And all of your excuses boil down to "but muh moral victory!" Cry me a river. You don't get to bloviate about how tough you are, then appeal to the slave morality you denounced when you lose. You might as well weep for the Injuns, if you're gonna simp for historical losers.

If you were true to your own ideology, you would curse Hitler for his failure Unlike him, black people can finish a race.

"But, but he TRIED!"

Doesn't matter. He failed. Moral victories do not exist.

History is written by the winners. Don't get beaten.
 
An ideology whose legacy is defeat, shame, and infamy is in position to lecture anyone on effectiveness.

War and violence are the final way of settling disputes. Nazism lost on the battlefield, therefore it is discarded to the shitheap.

And all of your excuses boil down to "but muh moral victory!" Cry me a river. You don't get to bloviate about how tough you are, then appeal to the slave morality you denounced when you lose. You might as well weep for the Injuns, if you're gonna aimp for historical losers.

History is written by the winners. Don't get beaten.
Your god-man essentially died by suicide by cop: He went out like a bitch. (NO! I don't believe in the resurrection.) You can do better than a dead man on stick.

Come back when you got some form of nationalism not centered on a foreign man from the Levant from an antiquated period.
 
Your god-man essentially died by suicide by cop: He went out like a bitch. (NO! I don't believe in the resurrection.) You can do better than a dead man on stick.

Come back when you got some form of nationalism not centered on a foreign man from the Levant from an antiquated period.
Christianity is doing better than the one-testicled manlet who got cucked by international Judaism after only 12 years.
 
Christianity is doing better than the one-testicled manlet who got cucked by international Judaism after only 12 years.
Bud, I can't stand that twat, either. Racism aside (which I don't like), the fact that he essentially still carried water for that invasive foreign set of mythologies, makes me view as weak, ineffective, and foolish. His first grand project should have been exorcising that demon. But that is a discussion for another day.
 
One dude so assblasted about the long nose tribe he's started LARPing as not only a sandnigger, but the niggerest of sandnigger cultures.
Ex pol/sharty users are hilariously retarded. There's a reason why Palestinians are treated like garbage even by other Arabs and are forced to live in refugee camps behind concrete walls in Lebanon/Syria.
 
Ex pol/sharty users are hilariously retarded. There's a reason why Palestinians are treated like garbage even by other Arabs and are forced to live in refugee camps behind concrete walls in Lebanon/Syria.

No, ethnic hatred is very old and common. French/German/Bri*ish hate triangle. Hungary and Slavs. Balkans. Arabs would also think their nation is the best arabs, all others are run by little girls. Irish/Scott/Anglo hate each other as well.
 
Oh, so NOW deviancy is a problem when it's affecting Israel? I swear, the neuroticism on display by Jews is off the charts. No, Israel is not "the west", and the fact that you lead with that rather than many of the actual issues that deviancy is causing in the west (deviancy that was both heavily supported and funded by Jews) gives up the game. I thought these people were supposed to be sneaky, but bring up Israel and you'll have the mask off in seconds.
 
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