Dragon's Dogma

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Main complaint I’ve seen that aren’t DLC freakouts is the game doesn’t run great unless you have a high end computer.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

I was expecting the Alone in the Dark reboot to be the janky disappointment of the week and DD2 to get a lot of praise, so to see it trip at the starting line like this is unfortunate. I personally wrote it off as soon as the DRM came into play, but I'm hoping they do something for the people here who bought it and are stuck running at a cinematic 24fps.

 

[ShitLurker]

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I really dont get how Capcom operates, so they make a fun DMC5 game, they release good remakes of the RE games aaand then they pull this shit. Is it because Dragon Dogma 1 wasnt much of a banger? Like, I don get this almost schizo mentality they're having.

Capcom is what I file a "mood swing" company. They can dump a couple of winners and then a couple of gigantic turds without much of a warning. This is the same company that had the shit show that was Street Fighter 5 (and from what I'm hearing, SF6 after the grace period passed) yet also launched and supported the Monster Hunter games which are just pure content (yes, they also have their microtransactions, but they never gate monsters outside of the big expansion). I see Dragon's Dogma 2 got fucked over with too much of the stupid wing of capcom between being extra predatory and obsessing about DRM which seems to be hurting performance here and there.

Basically, it kind of reminds me of SFXTekken where the DLC practices were so predatory people got really pissed and dropped it. Seems like in sales it's still going in hard, but word of mouth may hurt it in the long run bad. A pity since it seems the games i basically what DD fans were looking for (more or less, I'm not too clear on how much stuff got removed and is considered subpar now compared to the original outside of the clothing and cosmetics getting shafted) but it got fucked over by the "nickel and dime them for everything" patrol putting their crusty hands in a single player game.

Keep in mind this came after the game released.

These niggas waited for y’all to pay full price and then fuck you over.

Kill all triple a developers and games journalists.

Yeah, this is the really disgusting shit. Haven't seen a "hype to bottom" reaction to a game that I considered legitimately to have potential like with this one. Definitely will not buy it unless it's on a sale and even then we shall see, as per usual, I still have a shit ton of games in the backlog. We'll see in a half a year to a year when the DRM gets removed and suddenly performance isn't ass and mods can do the needful.

 

[Day of the Cope]

I can not overstate how fucking retarded (what I very loosely define as) people are to justify the Character Edit MTX by saying "you can delete your save files". You should not have to delete your fucking save files to edit your character. The average user should not be expected to dig through folders and clear Steam Cloud because they don't like how their character looks after 30 minutes of gameplay. People also try and justify it with "well, you can get it in game" which a) doesn't excuse the game selling it for real money and b) makes one wonder how much the game is balanced around the MTX.

Capcom is what I file a "mood swing" company. They can dump a couple of winners and then a couple of gigantic turds without much of a warning.

It really does feel like these companies see "consumer good will" as a cashable currency.

 

[ShitLurker]

It really does feel like these companies see "consumer good will" as a cashable currency.

Yeah, that's a perfect summary. They seem to think they have gotten enough good boy points with a few projects that they are allowed to be scummy as fuck in the next one, only to be surprised (again) when it slaps them in their face. And DD2 is the worst game they could have pulled this stunt with since it's a relatively niche game with a small cult following, this is the sort of game you you need to let it speak for itself without unrelated shit ruining the experience.

 

[Harammurabe]

Everyone complaining about microtransactions must have been living under a rock for who knows how long. DD1 microtransactions were worse than this.

You should not have to delete your fucking save files to edit your character. The average user should not be expected to dig through folders and clear Steam Cloud because they don't like how their character looks after 30 minutes of gameplay.

Counterpoint, people should spend time criticizing something logical instead of something utterly baffling like not having immediate access to a feature already in the game.

 

[ShitLurker]

Counterpoint, people should spend time criticizing something logical instead of something utterly baffling like not having immediate access to a feature already in the game.

Whoa there! Cool it with the cum guzzling my man, it's fine to be happy for a sequel to a game you loved, but lets not act like if the whole "your character is locked forever unless you pay the toll" isn't absolute bullshit insanity. Also "it was worse in 1" isn't the own you think it is.

I swear this game will be killed by the stuff that is not the actual game.

 

[Breadbassket]

Everyone complaining about microtransactions must have been living under a rock for who knows how long. DD1 microtransactions were worse than this.

What did Dragon's Dogma do by comparison when it came to microtransactions?

 

[Day of the Cope]

Counterpoint, people should spend time criticizing something logical instead of something utterly baffling like not having immediate access to a feature already in the game.

No. Criticizing the existence of MTX in a $70 game is completely fair.

but lets not act like if the whole "your character is locked forever unless you pay the toll" isn't absolute bullshit insanity

I've seen countless retards excuse it with "but you can grind for it in game" which is the kind of mental retardation that has lead to the current situation we're seeing. Game developers bitched and moaned and stamped their fucking feet that $60 wasn't enough and empty-headed wallet warriors defend their favorite company as if they're on the payroll.

 

[Harammurabe]

"your character is locked forever unless you pay the toll" isn't absolute bullshit insanity.

Oh I see, this is your first RPG. Carry on then.

What did Dragon's Dogma do by comparison when it came to microtransactions?

Literally the same thing plus armors with incredibly powerful stats, items so ludicrously overpriced that they broke the economy, and weapons that were the best in the game for certain vocations. Basically skirting the edge of P2W. PC release had the RC market removed and items bundled into the release so you would never have experienced this if you played much later than initial release. Anyway, that's sort of beyond the point, which is that ridiculous microtransactions from Capcom and literally every other AAA publisher have been standard for over a decade and complaining about them at this point like it's something new is just beating a dead horse. Literally just pirate the game or do whatever else you can to not give the company your money. The song and dance of complaining about DLC while handing your cash to the publisher has never fixed anything. People brigading the steam page with neg reviews that tell no one about the actual game itself will do anything either. Incredibly futile effort.

 

[ShitLurker]

Oh I see, this is your first RPG. Carry on then.

The fact that the character is Locked even if I delete my save file and create a new one is the insane part, last time I checked, I can create a new character in a new save file any time I want in pretty much every game under the sun that allows character creation. This is the first time I've seen this level of pettiness about it and it's certainly not something I expect from the RPG genre even the older ones.

 

[mlanguishi]

Wikipedia's had this up for quite a long time now. Which is it? Universal acclaim or getting trashed? I haven't watched that many streams but Critkal kept crashing with it until he gave up and looked like he wanted to cry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Dogma_2

 

[0 0]

It's funny, because nobody has actually got to the actual game complaints yet. We're not even at that point.
(HINT: it's DD1 without Dark Arisen A.K.A. the best part of the game)

I'm apparently in the fortunate minority to get really consistent frames, although it still hovers around 80 for me, which is fairly lower than usual.

I've heard complaints that the overworld is apparently reused, but as somebody who played the first game recently, I don't really notice it. Same goes for the "woke" thing about every other character being some minority. After a few hours, there's not many token characters to the point it stands out to me.

Gameplay wise, yes, the combat is pretty much identical to the first, but that was easily the highlight of the first game anyway. So far I don't really have many complaints about the game, but I'm only a handful of hours into it.

 

[Breadbassket]

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[derpherp2]

It's funny, because nobody has actually got to the actual game complaints yet. We're not even at that point.
(HINT: it's DD1 without Dark Arisen A.K.A. the best part of the game)

I was expecting them to learn from fucking online or the least fucking dark arisen OR AT THE LEAST BRING BACK INTO FREE.

These retards somehow failed every fucking criteria that I'm baffled why they even bothered.

They didn't even add the spellcasting mechanics in online too. Why the fuck did they sell it as a new game instead of dlc for the first game?

 

[30+GameOvers]

They didn't even add the spellcasting mechanics in online too. Why the fuck did they sell it as a new game instead of dlc for the first game?

That's a wrong question to ask. This is the same studio that gave us a poor RE4 remake despite the original being available on every device under the sun, mobile phones included...while not giving us a new Megaman game in years.
Simple answer is because they know you will buy it on brand name alone, and they're right.

 

[Relinquish]

Game so bad that Forsen had to wake up from his sleep

 

[derpherp2]

Simple answer is because they know you will buy it on brand name alone, and they're right.

lol.
Brand name.

 

[Duration Pending]

game is really fun, framerate is unacceptable for a $70 game, micro-transactions are all shit you can get in game so who cares.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

As I write this, Capcom's new ARPG Dragon's Dogma 2 is now officially playable on PC through Steam

That's very debatable at this point in time