Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Alexhypethrow19992 said:
While annoying, they are not the problem.
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Elon Musk and Pim Tool are a far greater issue than Fuentes and other very low-impact cheesy far right people. And Glenn will never be able to reach so many as Elol does.
I am not cutting these centrists any slack. I don't care they dislike Biden. What, you think I like Dems and Biden? lmao.
I just have priorities.
Anyway, here are the "pro-Ukraine" Dems:
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Seethan Ralph said:
Towelhead nigger lobby back at it. If I were Zelenski, I would demand millons of rounds of ammunition, tanks, ATACMS and planes or else we're back to destroying the core of russian economy (like they should since 24.02.2022).
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Zelensky is not in a position to be making demands like that. Better for him and Ukraine to continue to expose the hypocrisy of the Western Europe. Of whom is the primary party responsible of emplacing loopholes in the trade embargo against Russia and been continuing to keep the Russian war effort funded.
 
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Ukraine says Russian oil refineries are legitimate targets​

KYIV, March 22 (Reuters) - A Ukrainian deputy prime minister said on Friday Russian oil refineries were legitimate targets for its forces, after a media report said the United States, a close ally, had asked Kyiv to stop conducting drone strikes on refineries.
Ukraine dramatically stepped up its attacks on Russian energy facilities this month, launching numerous long-range drones to strike Russia's biggest refineries, resulting in the temporary suspension of production at some of them.

"We understand the calls of the U.S. partners, but at the same time we are fighting with the capabilities, resources, and practices that we have," Olha Stefanishyna, the minister, told the Kyiv Security Forum.
She said energy facilities were legitimate targets from a military point of view.
The Financial Times cited people familiar with the matter saying Washington had urged Kyiv to halt strikes, warning of the risk of provoking retaliation and driving up global oil prices.

The attacks helped boost oil prices that have risen nearly 4% so far since March 12, when Ukraine hit a major oil refinery.

Fatsuit Shinji said:
Zelensky is not in a position to be making demands like that.
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USA's geriatric kikery aren't as well, if they care to put russia on their knees asap so they can concentrate on China and middle eastern sand empires going amok.
 
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not william stenchever said:
Trying to tell Ukraine to stop hitting Russian refineries is fractally retarded on so many levels, especially after all their kevetching about "look at those dirty republicans they don't want to help Ukraine because they care so much about the border"
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It very well may be some kind of a psy-op to gain more GOP voters - let's declare in MSM that we want to buck break ukrops a little, so that more Dem-leaning, murka first Trump voters will see it and think "hmmm these blue faggots aren't so bad" and be more likely to vote for Biden. In reality, UA were told to limit their rafinery destruction a bit, or at least make it seem so.
 
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not william stenchever said:
Trying to tell Ukraine to stop hitting Russian refineries is fractally retarded on so many levels, especially after all their kevetching about "look at those dirty republicans they don't want to help Ukraine because they care so much about the border"
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It's especially dumb since Russia exports mostly crude oil and not refined products anyways, China and India have more than enough refining capacity of their own to produce their own fuel from imported oil and we'd have plenty of additional capacity ourselves if it wasn't hamstrung by idiotic green policies.

Just ignore these dipshits and keep hammering any and all refining infrastructure, storage tanks and pipelines you can get your hands on.

It's working and it's working well, and Russia knows it. They're calling in all their favors (or blackmail) with foreign governments now.
 
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apparently there's a big terrorist attack going down in moscow rn
anybody got info on who or what is behind that?
 
DumbDude43 said:
apparently there's a big terrorist attack going down in moscow rn
anybody got info on who or what is behind that?
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Right after Putin got re-elected and a massive attack on Ukrainian infrastructure happened. If soon people claiming to be Ukraine sympathizers or outright Ukrainian forces come out taking responsibility, you'll know what's up.
Not only they had automatic weapons, but also some kind of flamethrower from what I've seen (one doesn't just get those in Russia). Police nowhere to be seen for the entirety of the attack, in fucking Moscow that's filled with police to the brim.
It's all quite suspect. The only people crazy enough to do this sort of thing are muslim extremists, but I see no reason for them to chimp out in such a way right now. The other likely option is glowies - we still remember "Ryazan sugar".
If you think this is too ruthless, consider who you're dealing with.

It's very impractical and frankly pointless for Ukrainians to do this. Putting their lives on the line to likely die themselves for the sake of massacring civilians?
At the very least it wouldn't be done on behalf of Ukrainian government or armed forces, rogue actors at most, genuine radicals. Because it serves no practical purpose and would be a waste of agents.
I'm hearing that attackers managed to escape, Rosgvardiya (Putin's private police force) only arrived an hour after the shooting started.

Vatniks will naturally assume it's Ukrainians. It's only false flag when a white man does mass shooting in US.
 
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Seethan Ralph said:
Most plausibly, Beslan 2.0: Electric Boogaloo
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idk about that
the chechens have always tried to take hostages and blackmail the government
but this attack seems more like straight up mass murder
this reminds me more of the bataclan attack in paris 9 years ago, where a few isis guys massacred over a hundred people at a concert hall
 
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Ukraine says Russian oil refineries are legitimate targets​

KYIV, March 22 (Reuters) - A Ukrainian deputy prime minister said on Friday Russian oil refineries were legitimate targets for its forces, after a media report said the United States, a close ally, had asked Kyiv to stop conducting drone strikes on refineries.
Ukraine dramatically stepped up its attacks on Russian energy facilities this month, launching numerous long-range drones to strike Russia's biggest refineries, resulting in the temporary suspension of production at some of them.

"We understand the calls of the U.S. partners, but at the same time we are fighting with the capabilities, resources, and practices that we have," Olha Stefanishyna, the minister, told the Kyiv Security Forum.
She said energy facilities were legitimate targets from a military point of view.
The Financial Times cited people familiar with the matter saying Washington had urged Kyiv to halt strikes, warning of the risk of provoking retaliation and driving up global oil prices.

The attacks helped boost oil prices that have risen nearly 4% so far since March 12, when Ukraine hit a major oil refinery.


USA's geriatric kikery aren't as well, if they care to put russia on their knees asap so they can concentrate on China and middle eastern sand empires going amok.
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According to the law of armed conflict, petroleum sites are legal targets and the US/NATO has used this route in the past during wartime to set a precedent. Anyone telling them to stop can either front up some kind of equipment or weapons to allow them another option or fuck off.
 
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DumbDude43 said:
idk about that
the chechens have always tried to take hostages and blackmail the government
but this attack seems more like straight up mass murder
this reminds me more of the bataclan attack in paris 9 years ago, where a few isis guys massacred over a hundred people at a concert hall
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True, but I find it hard to believe its not an inside job - where were these Chechens all this time, when their brothers were getting killed in Ukraine, their lives dependent on a fat puppet cocksucker Kadyrov, while perpetrators of heinous crimes against their nation are alive, well and in charge on Kremlin? Why did they wait so long? Where they were when ISIS was cucking France to the oblivion?
It is some possibility, but but I really wouldnt count on that.
 
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