Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

One mall visitor was streaming from a movie theater inside the mall when the shooting and fire started







Mall collapses under fire

Terrorists' van with allegedly Ukrainian license plates is checked for explosives


Another angle of the arrest



It could be ISIS and the Ukrainians and the CIA, they're all in on it together
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And as a cherry on top the most popular Urkaine Tellegram channels are oinking in ecstasy over the events taking place
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Supposedly one of the gunmen being arrested.
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@Cpl. Long Dong Silver Don't Jihadis usually decide to blow themselves up at the end of a show, or just go down fighting.

These are really weird "muslims" given what jihadis usually been doing for the past few decades.

You faggots forget that is the islamic unwritten rule to terrorise the world and the kufar during Ramadan and bring as many sacrifices for their god.

Blood for the blood god.

Which is why I am still waiting to see more Chechens terrorize hohols.
 
Again what war support does he need that he already doesn't have ? Russians in large approve of this war if nothing else they think Putin is to soft handed for fuck sakes. Volunteers ? Ain't lacking there either.
So Putin does not care if people from other nations view his actions as 'just retributions'? No one said he's bolstering local support only.
This whole thing stinks, but I'll wait for more info.
 
Mall collapses under fire
This is perhaps one of the most - and I struggle to find the appropriate world here, so I will go with "notable" - things about the attack so far. Five, ten or fifteen gunmen cannot collapse a building of this size, nor will a single satchel charge do enough damage. Somebody must have delivered explosives to the rooftop in advance.

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This is perhaps one of the most - and I struggle to find the appropriate world here, so I will go with "notable" - things about the attack so far. Five, ten or fifteen gunmen cannot collapse a building of this size, nor will a single satchel charge do enough damage. Somebody must have delivered explosives to the rooftop in advance.

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There are theories going around that someone in staff of the mall was involved and there were flammable materials in multiple places prepared beforehand. No facts yet tho.
 
So Putin does not care if people from other nations view his actions as 'just retributions'? No one said he's bolstering local support only.
This whole thing stinks, but I'll wait for more info.

Other nation are what ? The west ? No, he clearly doesn't. At this point whole of Russia couldn't give a flying fuck about the west and prefer to see it burn to the ground.

You are reddit level of clueless and retarded.
 
This is perhaps one of the most - and I struggle to find the appropriate world here, so I will go with "notable" - things about the attack so far. Five, ten or fifteen gunmen cannot collapse a building of this size, nor will a single satchel charge do enough damage. Somebody must have delivered explosives to the rooftop in advance.

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When was this shitter built and by whom? Not the first time a mall has gone and caved in from fire, but that one was a refurbished Soviet building. With shoddy construction and someone from staff onboard, who knows.
 
So in no way am I suggesting this is the case, but after my previous post saying I couldn't think of any state actors that would gain from this, a possible cui bono occurred to me which is that if Western powers wanted to disengage from the war somewhat then a false flag directed against Ukraine would give them the catalyst to distance themselves slightly from Kiev. It wouldn't even need to be wholly a false flag as Ukraine has plenty of elements that are motivated enough to do this, it would just be done directly by Western handlers without the sanction of Kiev. Then in the next few days or week we would see statements from the West about how they don't condone such behaviour and it is time to reassess and have discussions with Russia directly, perhaps rather than Kiev.

There's no evidence, I'm just correcting my earlier post that I could see no gain for any of the players in doing this. Factors relevant to this hypothesis are: It is a certainty that the West knows now that they're not getting back Crimea anytime soon and unfeasible in the extreme that they'll reclaim Donetsk or Luhansk. I think with the talk of a French led occupation of Western Ukraine that they're now looking for a way to stall things as quickly as possible. And probably cut Zelensky out of the loop as there's a real motivation for him to keep on fighting - he might literally be killed by Ukie ultranationalists for backing down to Russia or Ukie military leaders might politically supplant him. Biden has staked a lot politically on backing Kiev every step of the way and it is an election year. He needs an out. Ukraine perpetrating a massacre against civilians gives him one. Maybe.

If this isn't Western backed then it will be memory holed / denied even if Ukrainian elements were involved. If it is Western backed then you'll see Western condemnation and talk about how the West needs to directly involve in guarding Western Ukraine and de facto, they'll supplant the Kiev government. They'll need to do this quickly before Russia eats up any more land.

Again, not arguing for this and interested if there's any obvious flaws in it, just theory-crafting. Thoughts with those who've lost people in this and to those injured.

EDIT: Well, ISIS claim has apparently come in whilst I was writing all that.
 
ISIS takes responsibility. Theory vindicated.
Something along the lines of "Islamic State fighters attacked Christians in Krasnogorsk, killed hundreds, destroyed the building, and returned to their bases safely." Source is Amaq News Agency (which is ISIS)
This is apparently fake too, much like the Ingush terrorist list.
 
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This nigger would shank me in a heartbeat if his pastor threw enough Adderall at him and told him it was for Murrica. And you too.

We are already at war.
He is a Mormon who thinks Saber is best girl in Fate/Stay Night and one of Null's army of ass kissers, of course he would simp hard for the Deep State. It's shocking just how much of America's Intelligence Community is made up of Mormons.

Everyone sane knows Rin's best girl, she's fine with sharing.
Gods most retarded weeb decides to chime in

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What's his proof?
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Cirnosad is genuinely the best account on Twitter, incel who thinks he knows everything and who suffers from Chunni syndrome.
I don't know man, we've got some weebs here, see above Saber lover, who are in the running for Most Retarded. Cirno is pretty special though, like most Touhou fans.
 
BBC also reporting that Islamic State have claimed responsibility. Though they're just repeating Reuters who are just repeating the same unverified statement on the Telegram channel. I wonder how many Westerners will be surprised to learn that Russia fought against ISIS. Effectively as well. I remember this meme from years ago:
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