RU Shooting and blast reported at concert hall near Moscow, Russian agencies say - ISIS Claims Responsibility

March 22 (Reuters) - Shooting broke out at a large concert hall near Moscow on Friday, Russian news agencies quoted emergency services as saying.

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RIA news agency said at least three people in camouflage clothing had opened fire at the Crocus City Hall, and that some people had been wounded.

Police had arrived at the scene, RIA said.

Video footage published on Russian social media channels showed chaotic scenes, with a large crowd of concertgoers attempting to flee the hall, followed by gunshots.

Other video footage showed a number of people lying motionless in pools of blood outside the hall

Reuters was unable immediately to verify the footage.

TASS news agency reported an explosion and a fire in the building where the shooting took place.

The Kommersant newspaper posted footage online showing smoke billowing from what it said was the concert venue building.

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I find it obnoxious when people ignore the cause of this animosity and pretend "russophobia" is some mysterious malady that affects westerners because they have evil souls or something, instead of a response to and result of Russian imperialism and outrageous statements by Russian government officials and civilians alike.
Frankly I find it bizarre how people who are unsubtly and oftentimes overtly overjoyed when it comes to mass shootings or terrorist attacks or such in the west and like to gloat about how it all deserved because muh-immigrants and muh-degeneracy and westoid cuckery or whatever suddenly become such lofty minded humanitarians when the same energy they spew at euros and anglos (and kikes and pajeets among others for that matter) gets thrown in the direction of russia

Well I dont really find it bizarre, as dickless anti-current-thingism is not exactly a new thing round these parts, but some consistency would help to preserve kayfabe
 
Putin made a televised address in connection with the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall:
▪️ called what happened a bloody terrorist attack, a targeted mass murder of peaceful people;

▪️ said that the organisers of the terrorist attack were preparing a show execution and a bloody act of intimidation, just like the Nazis once did;

▪️ declared 24 March a day of national mourning;

▪️ expressed deep condolences to all those whose loved ones were killed in the terrorist attack, thanked medics and ordinary citizens for helping the victims;

▪️ reported that additional anti-terrorist measures have been introduced in Moscow and other regions.

▪️ All four direct perpetrators of the terrorist attack have been detained, they were trying to escape in the direction of Ukraine;

▪️ On the Ukrainian side, according to preliminary data, a "window" was prepared for them to cross the border;

▪️ The Russian Federation will identify and punish everyone who prepared the terrorist attack,
special services are working to identify terrorists' accomplices, the investigation will do everything to establish all the details;

▪️ The main thing is to prevent those behind the massacre in Crocusa from committing new crimes;

▪️ Only retribution and oblivion await the terrorists, they have no future;

▪️ No one can shake the cohesion of Russian citizens, no one will be able to sow poisonous seeds of discord, panic and discord in Russia.

"Russia has always become even stronger during the most difficult trials, and so it will be now."
source TASS (ru)

⚡️ The death toll at the Crocus City Hall currently stands at 133 people, the Russian Investigative Committee told TASS.
source (ru)
 
Thanks. If it was shot down, it's not a deliberate attack on civilians though.
I've linked the video of the one that managed to slip by and it was plenty.

Regular people cheering on the deaths of Russians is the harvest of Putin's foreign policy. Which has widespread support in Russia.
People were cheering the deaths of Russians long before Putin started implementing his foreign policy. Odessa House of Trade Unions in 2014 springs to mind. Crimea was still Ukrainian back then.

I find it obnoxious when people ignore the cause of this animosity and pretend "russophobia" is some mysterious malady that affects westerners because they have evil souls or something, instead of a response to and result of Russian imperialism and outrageous statements by Russian government officials and civilians alike.
There is no shortage of outrageous statements on both sides. Since you mentioned biases early, I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that it takes two to tango and that the entire history of this conflict had at least several junctions where the loss of lives could have been averted, all derailed by actors purposedly pushing for escalation. Not all of them were Russian, or even Ukrainian for this matter.

Since I am an unfortunate enough to be indirectly involved in this conflict, I'm keeping a very close eye on the proceedings as they develop. I understand your position adn can respect it because I realize where it is stemming from, though I obviously do not find it to my liking. All I ask is that you do the same and consider that things, as always, are more complex than they appear on the surface.

I am glad that we both find attacks against civilian population reprehensible. It will take plenty of goodwill to mend this conflict, and there has been a catastrophic dearth of that commodity on every side. Which is why things keep spiraling toward even more destruction.
 
There's more than 10k confirmed dead Ukrainian civilians in this war
How many dead Ukrainian civilians did Ukraine create when they were shelling and bombing Donetsk and Lugansk (at that point - still "Ukrainian cities with Ukrainian citizens" as per Ukraine's point of view)?

I find it obnoxious when people ignore the cause of this animosity and pretend "russophobia" is some mysterious malady that affects westerners because they have evil souls or something, instead of a response to and result of Russian imperialism and outrageous statements by Russian government officials and civilians alike.
It's odd how nobody gets "Americaphobia" when the US destroys country after country in their imperialistic quest to dominate geopolitics, when they fund and arm bloody uprisings and coups. But when, for example, Russia reacts to Georgia invading a breakaway republic - this is a "land grab" and is a sign of "Russian imperialism".

Again, it's useless arguing with you about these things because your point of view is set and nothing said will ever change your mind. You interact with people of opposing viewpoints solely to let loose a payload of talking points and then fly back to base to rearm.
 
How many dead Ukrainian civilians did Ukraine create when they were shelling and bombing Donetsk and Lugansk (at that point - still "Ukrainian cities with Ukrainian citizens" as per Ukraine's point of view)?

before the 2022 there where about 3.5k civilian dead with more of them on the Ukrainian side than the Luhansk/Donetsk side.
So over 8 years 3.5k dead since 2022 over 10k dead, a great humanitarian success.
I know it is a very cold way to look at the suffering of people.
But Putin didn't care about the poor Donbas babies for 8 years but once he invades Ukrain in full its all "but think of the Donbas children".
 
So is Israel behind the attack or no? I doubt ISIS is even that competent to lurk into Russia
So we have a war between the Jewish Empire and Russia.
Russia has another terrorist attack on its capitol.
Supposedly carried out by the same retards that jews use to antagonize Russia with in the middle east.
Who can it be now?

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The Moscow concert shooting is yet another horrible tragedy where innocent lives were lost. But I don’t think it was a Caucasian/Ingushetian/Ukrainian/ISIS terrorist squad. The timing is reminiscent of the Moscow apartment bombings organized by Putin’s FSB weeks after he succeeded Yeltsin in 1999. And the Moscow theater siege of 2002. #DejaVu (And yes, this is an actual pawhto of me, Willow First Kitty - in my fave pet carrier).
 
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I noticed that you only hold the Ukrainian side to anything, while the Russian gets a free pass despite starting this war and conducting it in the degenerate way it does.
Russia did not start this war. Stop regurgitating everything the government tells you.

Zelenskyy should go down in history as a traitorous shitbag who sold out his country for NATO bux. Anyone continuing to support this pointless slaughter is just as retarded and uncaring for the Ukrainian people.
 
Russia did not start this war. Stop regurgitating everything the government tells you.

Zelenskyy should go down in history as a traitorous shitbag who sold out his country for NATO bux. Anyone continuing to support this pointless slaughter is just as retarded and uncaring for the Ukrainian people.
So the Ukrainians crossed the Russian border on 24 February 2022, really makes you think about all the other things we are being lied aboud.
 
widespread support in Russia.
I find it obnoxious when people ignore the cause of this animosity and pretend "russophobia" is some mysterious malady that affects westerners because they have evil souls or something, instead of a response to and result of Russian imperialism and outrageous statements by Russian government officials and civilians alike.
I can only excuse Ukrainians that got personally affected by this war that cheer on this attack and act like spergs. If you're a Westerner that never interacted with a Russian or a Ukrainian in your life, you're cheering it on, salivating to the thought of dead Russian civvies and treating this war as some sort of entertaining TV show from the comfort of your home with working electricity and plumbing in a country that's not being bombarded you are genuinely mentally deranged and need to be institutionalized.
 
I can only excuse Ukrainians that got personally affected by this war that cheer on this attack and act like spergs. If you're a Westerner that never interacted with a Russian or a Ukrainian in your life, you're cheering it on, salivating to the thought of dead Russian civvies and treating this war as some sort of entertaining TV show from the comfort of your home with working electricity and plumbing in a country that's not being bombarded you are genuinely mentally deranged and need to be institutionalized.
Plenty of people on this forum are either directly affected by Russian aggression in the last several generations, either due to living in countries that have had to deal with these subhuman creatures, or have family that has had their lives uprooted or destroyed by them. I would not be speaking English right now if the latter was not the case. You don't need to be Ukrainian to know there is something wrong with the core of the Russian soul and that there will be nothing even resembling peace in the world, let alone Europe, until they've been thoroughly put in their place. Do you think every former soviet satellite rushed under the west's wing when the iron curtain fell because it was trendy and cool and epic? Mass repression, state atheism, the destruction of identity and culture and economic ruination of soviet satellites and various SSRs are still within living memory, not to mention Russia's adventures into the caucauses. Acting like you can only hate Russians if your cousin died to a landmine in Donetsk or if some gopnik mugged you is ridiculous.
 
So over 8 years 3.5k dead
3000 of those died in 2014 and 2015. The total number of civilians killed through active hostilities was about 15 in 2020 and 2021 combined. In the same time period hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers and an unknown number of Russian militants died in the "frozen" conflict.


If you're a Westerner that never interacted with a Russian or a Ukrainian in your life, you're cheering it on, salivating to the thought of dead Russian civvies and treating this war as some sort of entertaining TV show from the comfort of your home with working electricity and plumbing in a country that's not being bombarded you are genuinely mentally deranged and need to be institutionalized.
Yeah, but did you feel the need to post this in one of the anti-black or anti-semitic threads? It's notable that people spaz out over one or two people saying Total Russian Death, but are silent about entire threads filled with other bigotry. I've never seen anyone point out how unhinged the many users on this site are who got psyoped into developing a psychotic hatred for Ukrainian people.
 
Absolutely. This is a war crime and an absolutely abhorrent practice that must be condemned by any human being regardless of their national or political affiliation.

This conflict is a nightmarish quagmire of death I hoped none of us would see in our lifetimes. I had friends in Ukraine (still alive, some moved to Europe, some moved to Russia) before it started, so this conflict is personal despite my best attempts to keep it out. Whoever was the architect behind it, be it one person or several, Russian, Ukrainian or American, they are approaching the definition of "evil" in its purest, almost biblical form.
It's American. Americans poked Russia. They built missile silos on Ukraine soil. They built bio labs on Ukraine soil. They want Russia wiped off the face of the earth. If that wasn't their plan, they wouldn't have kicked them off SWIFT.

I guess their Western spy agency handlers betrayed them to die then.
They had to be retarded. Your mission is to go into MOSCOW, kill a bunch of civvies in high a profile area, and then think there's an extraction point? What kind of stupid are you? There's no extraction point. There never was. This was a suicide mission. Always was. You're dead. Period. Dead. Anyone with military training would know this.
 

Apparently they chopped his ear off and made him eat it.

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It doesn't seem like they'd do this to their own operators if they were hired by Putin to me. A Ukraine/ISIS joint effort could be possible still. My bet is still this is just ISIS alone, but the only thing that doesn't add up is why they didn't suicide during it instead of capture.

ETA of ear chop and feed locally.

 
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I have never understood this. Do people think Muhamads are peaceful creatures and the CIA makes them violent?
That myth has been around since at least 2001. "CIA created Al Qaeda and/or the Taliban to fight the Soviets, then they turned on their old masters and did 9/11 (with some help from their friends in the Mossad)!" It has an attractive irony. It's also very America-centric--everything Muslims do anywhere in the world is driven directly or indirectly by America. This makes it appealing to people who aren't fans of the US or whatever party is in charge at the time. It also advances the idea of a unipolar world with a reckless hyperpower, useful propaganda for ambitious states like Russia and China.

It's not too far fetched to imagine government spy agencies knowing beforehand that something like this is about to go down, but since you don't have the exact time and place it's almost impossible to defend against.
And even if Western intelligence agencies had more specific information, they are limited in what they can tell the Russians. Intelligence sharing is based on formal agreements and mutual trust. Russia's not trustworthy. They're not going to get the level of detail a partner would receive. This is especially true if the information came from a liaison service. Lots of countries share intelligence with the US, but very few of them would let the US share it with Russia.

Putin just won a landslide election, the majority of Russians appear to support the Special Military Operation and the Russian armed forces have seen a huge swell in volunteers.
They just promoted it to an undeclared war; a false flag would help sell that. Though the false flag must remain a hypothesis until there is some evidence. [RT | RCHIVE]
 
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