Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[‘84 Fuckerbird Trans Man]

Same.
I want Russia to lose the military engagement in Ukraine; but I'm not gonna hate on some Russian security services for frying goat fucker balls who killed a bunch of innocent civilians in their own home country.

They do this shit to everyone they want. Torture by police, the FSB, and in prisons is common place, it’s not something exclusively for terrorists.

Imagine yourself ending up in jail - for whatever reason, sometimes without any reason, just because those faggots have a narcotics quota to fill and plant evidence -and getting this treatment. That is why them gloating about it and posting evidence of their own crimes is so revolting.

No shame, masks off.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I hope Russia diverts a bunch of airdropped ordinance to Syria to waste a bunch of ISIS goatfuckers in retaliation.

They won't. There are too many commie blocks in Kiev they need go level first.

 

[Rio]

Torture is a horrible way to get information.
The victim will say anything to get you stop zapping his balls.

If I were to put money on it, I'd say that that's part of the appeal here. It might be easier to get them to "admit" they were under Ukraine's orders if them saying that gets the soldiers to stop ripping their fingernails out.

 

[No. 7 cat]

They do this shit to everyone they want. Torture by police, the FSB, and in prisons is common place, it’s not something exclusively for terrorists.

Imagine yourself ending up in jail - for whatever reason, sometimes without any reason, just because those faggots have a narcotics quota to fill and plant evidence -and getting this treatment. That is why them gloating about it and posting evidence of their own crimes is so revolting.

No shame, masks off.

People who cheer on a place where police openly and unashamedly torture in sordid ways are not exactly reflective. Countries that can only administer justice barbarously are generally making insecure assertions of state power when cold, careful professionalism does so better. No tears for jihad killers, but those with experience of being held by Russian like Shaun Pinner, British soldier turned Ukrainian naval infantryman, justifiably sees public sadism as the usual Russian modus operandi. Given context like a nearby security forces (OMON) base, him seeing it as a 'false flag' is not unreasonable. Bad police worldwide are known for provoking marks into committing crime they solve quickly. Anyhow, sadism is bad and only fools and deviants cheer for it.



sadism

 

[Jewthulhu]

Based on the uniform, the patch and how they behave, I have serious doubts that these guys are police. Do we have any information on them?

Based on the camo he's wearing it looks like FSB. According to camopedia they're the only ones who wear Russian knock-off multicam.

 

[BikeLock]

>Comes back to check on thread...
>See the self-professed "good guys" celebrate a terrorist attack
>See the "good guys" clutch their pearls about the "torture" of the terrorists
>See the "good guys" finally point out Nazi patches worn on uniforms

Lol, lmao even.

 

[teriyakiburns]

>Comes back to check on thread...
>See the self-professed "good guys" celebrate a terrorist attack
>See the "good guys" clutch their pearls about the "torture" of the terrorists
>See the "good guys" finally point out Nazi patches worn on uniforms

Lol, lmao even.

sir, you seem touched with the 'tism.

 

[an retard]

>See the self-professed "good guys" celebrate a terrorist attack

My "ziggers can't read" hypothesis gains more evidence

 

[Jewthulhu]

>Comes back to check on thread...
>See the self-professed "good guys" celebrate a terrorist attack
>See the "good guys" clutch their pearls about the "torture" of the terrorists
>See the "good guys" finally point out Nazi patches worn on uniforms

Lol, lmao even.

Are we reading the same thread?

 

[The best and greatest]

>See the "good guys" clutch their pearls about the "torture" of the terrorists
>See the "good guys" finally point out Nazi patches worn on uniforms

These two are more about pointing out your own hypocritical worldview that sees Russia as a dindu nation who just keeps getting picked on by NAFO for no reason. I still dont care about what edgy shit people put on their uniforms. Cops do this sort of retarded shit all the time.


Anyway people on both sides gravedance so that's hardly specific to the good guys.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

They do this shit to everyone they want. Torture by police, the FSB, and in prisons is common place, it’s not something exclusively for terrorists.

Imagine yourself ending up in jail - for whatever reason, sometimes without any reason, just because those faggots have a narcotics quota to fill and plant evidence -and getting this treatment. That is why them gloating about it and posting evidence of their own crimes is so revolting.

No shame, masks off.

Absolutely. Like car battery to the balls - that's nothing fucking new, it's one of the many methods they routinely employ to make people confess to crimes they didn't commit. I don't think people here fully grasp the level of fucked up that Russian police is (and siloviki in general). And worse still, there's practically no oversight.

 

[MG-34]

>Comes back to check on thread...
>See the self-professed "good guys" celebrate a terrorist attack

Where? Or did you and the other ziggers in the other thread take a break from yucking it up about dead Ukrainians from Russian cruise missiles attacks and assumed we did the same here?

 

[The best and greatest]

Where? Or did you and the other ziggers in the other thread take a break from yucking it up about dead Ukrainians from Russian cruise missiles attacks and assumed we did the same here?

If he really tried he'd maybe find one or two edgy posts, but if there's people celebrating Russian dead in this thread its generally only soldiers or tractors getting popped.

Because nobody here actually wants or benefits from senseless acts of terrorism on the public.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

>See the self-professed "good guys" celebrate a terrorist attack

Who is?

>See the "good guys" clutch their pearls about the "torture" of the terrorists

The same way they "clutch their pearls" over that Ukrainian POW castrated by Ziggers. Or how those three foreign fighters were initially sentenced to death by a Zigger court in occupied Donbas.

>See the "good guys" finally point out Nazi patches worn on uniforms

A non-problem; who cares if soldiers on either side wear black sun patches. Though I would be careful isolating the hordes of anti-Western colonialism third worlders that back the Zigger cause by larping white identity a bit too openly.

Ukrainian drones successfully hit the Russian Novocherkassk power plant in Rostov Oblast, disabling two of the plant’s power units, March 25, 2024:

I will, however, celebrate the total death of European Russia's oil refineries:

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

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Remember when Russia was able to port any of the ships of its Black Sea navy at Sevastopol and NOT get them sunk by Storm Shadows? It's almost like they were free to do that and not have to run to get them to safety at Novorossiysk before they annexed the Crimean peninsula a decade ago.


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The storm shadows missed the ships.

 

[Ghostse]

People who cheer on a place where police openly and unashamedly torture in sordid ways are not exactly reflective. Countries that can only administer justice barbarously are generally making insecure assertions of state power when cold, careful professionalism does so better. No tears for jihad killers [...] Anyhow, sadism is bad and only fools and deviants cheer for it.

I think that's my issue: execute fucks, sure. Having them be a little clumsy and "trip" or bang their heads when being taken in custody no ones going to bat eye, of if they resist put a fucking beat down on them till they stop resisting... No one is going have issue. But having them already in your control and hooking their balls to a car battery or eating thier own ears and video taping it is a bit much. Like what's the point, you aren't going to get any useable information, the only reason is the person attaching the alligator clamps gets off on it.

The storm shadows missed the ships.

Did they? I haven't seen any confirmation but two more Alligators were reported to be pretty well fucked.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I think that's my issue: execute fucks, sure. Having them be a little clumsy and "trip" or bang their heads when being taken in custody no ones going to bat eye, of if they resist put a fucking beat down on them till they stop resisting... No one is going have issue. But hooking their balls to a car battery and video taping it is a bit much. Like what's the point, you aren't going to get any useable information, the only reason is the person attaching the alligator clamps gets off on it.


Did they? I haven't seen any confirmation but two more Alligators were reported to be pretty well fucked.

From: https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/...&r=17wh90&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email


Additionally, Ukrainians attempted to hit some of last Russian amphibious assault ships remaining in the Black Sea. While initially claiming to have hit and damaged two, the satellite photos show a damaged dock (at the top): the ship next to is likely to be moderately damaged. Another vessel is visible while being moved by tug boats: it is unlikely to be damaged…

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1771971180460912930?t=GZbeVobo8VipcwsKhffOIg

This substack is pretty bullshit free although it's pretty generous of Ukrainian AD claims.

* We'll know for sure regarding aviation losses on this war in 10-15 YEARS. Anyone claiming 100% certainly of anything without reliable photographic or video proof is not to be taken too seriously.

 

[Vince McMahon]

I think that's my issue: execute fucks, sure. Having them be a little clumsy and "trip" or bang their heads when being taken in custody no ones going to bat eye, of if they resist put a fucking beat down on them till they stop resisting... No one is going have issue. But having them already in your control and hooking their balls to a car battery or eating thier own ears and video taping it is a bit much. Like what's the point, you aren't going to get any useable information, the only reason is the person attaching the alligator clamps gets off on it.

Broken people breaking people. If you are a sadist in a position of power, you're no better than a jihadi shitskin. Especially considering that it's Russia, I can guarantee that those idiots who played "call a lawyer" with that shitskin (it's a classical torture that involves a field Soviet-made phone) have hurt many an innocent, so there's no trust it's an actual perp rather than someone they snatched off the street.

 

[otherdispair]

I know I'm a bit late but I want to give my 2 cents on the torture debate.
You don't use torture to get information out of someone or before they are convicted.
people under torture do not give reliable testimony, the fucking romans had this shit figured out. Its not like the romans where a bunch of faint of heart pansies that didn't do some pretty gruesome shit all the time and they used some very creative forms of torture as punishment.
Not only will people lie to get you to stop but once you fucked someone over like that they will keep lying and saying what ever you want to hear so their balls don't get used as grounding again. So any questions you might want to ask these sentient shits about who they got their guns from ect, the moment you give them a name they will say yes, the moment you give them a time and place they will say yes. Now for the FSB this is feature, not a bug of the system.
The second reason why you don't torture for information is that innocent people will talk themselves onto the gallows even without AD/DC trough the pee/pee. So say the cops get the wrong people and smack them until they talk. But they got the wrong people not only are you now at risk of convicting innocent people, but you aren't looking for the actual perps anymore.
The third reason is that once torture becomes the norm to get information it will be used against you or your loved ones sooner or later and you or your loved one might even by innocent.

Torture as punishment?
Yea, sure for things like this I'd crowd fund for a bigger battery. You know provided you are dealing with a legal system that doesn't shitcan people for retarded reasons and that can be trusted to be at least somewhat fair.
I also have hunch that if we where to introduce torture as a form of punishment in the west I won't be the mudlsims and the dindo's that get it after killing a dozen people but William from accounting that posted some edgy shit that goes against the states narrative/power. After all a few dozen taxpayers dead once every so often isn't an issue for the state.

These guys getting tortured to me shows how badly the security apparatus fucked up and how they are now brutalizing these guys to reassert their dominance/ control both the please the masses (whom rightfully want a blood price paid in full) and to keep them in place.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

The storm shadows missed the ships.

While initially claiming to have hit and damaged two, the satellite photos show a damaged dock (at the top): the ship next to is likely to be moderately damaged.

The Yamal is likely fucked:
Russian landing ship 'critically damaged' by Ukrainian missile strike, says military intelligence

One of the Russian landing ships struck during a recent missile strike on occupied Crimea was "critically damaged," Ukraine's military intelligence agency (HUR) said on March 25.

In a post on Telegram, the agency said the "Yamal" suffered a "hole in the upper deck that caused it to roll to the starboard side."

The satellite photo posted yesterday (March,24, 2024) (posted originally by Tyler Rogoway, @Aviation_Intel; PHOTO © 2024 PLANET LABS INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. REPRINTED BY PERMISSION):


Debris of one of the two 3M22 "Zirkon" hypersonic cruise missiles shot down today: